Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review

2014-12-17 Thread Eric Norris
My KX1 has the old 30m board.  Its power output is 4,2w on 20m from a 13,8 
supply., but approaches 7 watts with the A123 pack.  Perhaps the 80m board 
lowers the output, I have no way of testing.  I don't think 80m QRP is as 
popular on the Left Coast of the U.S as it is elsewhere.  I rarely operate 
there anyway.

73

Eric. WD6DBM

Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:

Basic KX1 gives more power.  I am not surprised for power output over 4W.  
However, with the addition of KXB3080 module, the low pass filter LPF1 is a 
compromise, it will be hard to squeeze power up to 4 watts.
73
Johnny VR2XMCKX1 # 2839
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My KX1 puts out over 5 watts when powered with an A123 LiFePO pack, and will 
run longer than I can from a small.4S1P battery.  It fits perfectly into a 
Pelican 1060 box, which makes it nearly indestructible when using it to soften 
face plants while xc skiing.  It's perfect as is, though a 40-20-15 version 
would be interesting.

I'd like to see a single-band KX0, the size of a Rockmite, a full 1-2 watts 
out, with attendant Elecraft mojo.  THAT would be cool.  It could use an 
outboard T1 for tuning wires.

73

Eric WD6DBM

Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net wrote:

Phil wrote:

 A reasonable assessment, Johnny. Of course the KX1 
 was designed as the ultimate Trail-Friendly Radio 
 (TFR) and that it is!

I always preferred the K1 versus the KX1.  I must have 15m,
plus the KX1 really needs a four-pole IF filter, IMO.

I have a dream of a KX2 that is a KX1 descendant, with four-pole
filter, 15m and maybe other bands not on a KX1, back-lit LCD vs
LED, noise blanker, and everything required for the band coverage
laid out from the start in the design, and not as an after-
thought.  (As has been often noted, the KX1 is not particularly
easy rig to build with all the options.)  I'd also like to see
5 watt output on all bands with 14 vdc power.  Perhaps it could
even be a factory-built SMT design.  Finally, that KX2 would need
an ATU capable of far more than 254 combinations of reactance
insertion.  The KAT1's 1022 combinations would be minimum, IMHO.

A small, capable, simple-to-operate, very low-power-consumption
QRP rig still has great appeal even with availability of the
overwhelming capability of the KX3.  I'd like to have both.

...and the KX2 slot in the Elecraft line needs filling! :-)

Mike / KK5F

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[Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review

2014-12-17 Thread Johnny Siu
Old, yes, the old kxb30 did not need to reconstruct the low pass filter, hence 
no effect to power output. The newer kxb3080 requires a complete reconstruction 
of LPF

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review (some impriovements in the manuals required)

2014-12-16 Thread Phil Wheeler
A reasonable assessment, Johnny. Of course the KX1 
was designed as the ultimate Trail-Friendly Radio 
(TFR) and that it is!


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/15/14 7:48 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:

Re-sent in a better text format:

I recently built a Elecraft KX1 for a local ham in VR2 who cannot DIY himself 
dueto some reasons.  This KX1 comes with the KXB3080 30/80 module and KXAT1 ATU 
module. I would like to share with you some of my experience and views during 
the construction process.

The construction of the basic KX1 was straight forward and required less skill 
than K2.  Although the manual of KX1 is well written, it does not clearly take 
into account the possibly of the future construction of KXB3080 and KXAT1.  
This is the major deficiency of the manual and I would not expect that from 
Elecraft after constructing many K2s in the past.

The space tolerance with the installation of KXB3080 and KXAT1 is very tight 
especially near the low pass filters L1  L2 area.  Therefore, the construction 
manual of KX1 should forth warn and draw the builder great attention:

1.   - Page 32 of the KX1 manual, C46-C49, C54 should be soldered at the top (i.e.component) side with all the legs cut flush at the bottom side.  This will give more space for the future installation of LPF1 (tiny PCB) of KXB3080.

2.   - Don W3FPR had kindly sent me one page note of ‘building KXB3080 without 
unsoldering (almost)’ which was extremely useful.  This literature should be 
included in the KX1 manual.

The tiny LPF1 pcb of KXB3080 is to be situated in the tight space formed between the 
C46-C49 C54 area of KX1 and R3-R4  C10 area of KXAT1.  Therefore, Page 3 of KXAT1 
manual, R3, R4 C10 should be soldered on the component side and cut flush on the other 
side.

To summarize:
1.   - Construction of KXB3080 especially the LPF1 low pass filter required a 
higher skill level similar to K2 and definitely nothing like beginner’s level;
2.   - Don W3FPR literature mentioned above should be included with the KX1 
manual as a standard reference.
  
Finally, back to performance, KX1 is a real nice little QRP radio with good RX selectivity and sensitivity.  However, the radio is very expensive when you add up the KXB3080 and KXAT1.  Try to compare with K1, K2 and KX3 in terms of price Vs performance before making your purchase decision.


73,
Johnny VR2XMC


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review

2014-12-16 Thread Mike Morrow
Phil wrote:

 A reasonable assessment, Johnny. Of course the KX1 
 was designed as the ultimate Trail-Friendly Radio 
 (TFR) and that it is!

I always preferred the K1 versus the KX1.  I must have 15m,
plus the KX1 really needs a four-pole IF filter, IMO.

I have a dream of a KX2 that is a KX1 descendant, with four-pole
filter, 15m and maybe other bands not on a KX1, back-lit LCD vs
LED, noise blanker, and everything required for the band coverage
laid out from the start in the design, and not as an after-
thought.  (As has been often noted, the KX1 is not particularly
easy rig to build with all the options.)  I'd also like to see
5 watt output on all bands with 14 vdc power.  Perhaps it could
even be a factory-built SMT design.  Finally, that KX2 would need
an ATU capable of far more than 254 combinations of reactance
insertion.  The KAT1's 1022 combinations would be minimum, IMHO.

A small, capable, simple-to-operate, very low-power-consumption
QRP rig still has great appeal even with availability of the
overwhelming capability of the KX3.  I'd like to have both.

...and the KX2 slot in the Elecraft line needs filling! :-)

Mike / KK5F
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[Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review

2014-12-16 Thread Johnny Siu
 Hello Mike,
KX1 is not cheap and I would wonder there is a sizeable market now. So, KX2 
will be a big question mark.
I spent quite some time building the low pass filter LPF1 of the KXB3080 
option.  This part is even more difficult than K2.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
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Phil wrote:

 A reasonable assessment, Johnny. Of course the KX1 
 was designed as the ultimate Trail-Friendly Radio 
 (TFR) and that it is!

I always preferred the K1 versus the KX1.  I must have 15m,
plus the KX1 really needs a four-pole IF filter, IMO.

I have a dream of a KX2 that is a KX1 descendant, with four-pole
filter, 15m and maybe other bands not on a KX1, back-lit LCD vs
LED, noise blanker, and everything required for the band coverage
laid out from the start in the design, and not as an after-
thought.  (As has been often noted, the KX1 is not particularly
easy rig to build with all the options.)  I'd also like to see
5 watt output on all bands with 14 vdc power.  Perhaps it could
even be a factory-built SMT design.  Finally, that KX2 would need
an ATU capable of far more than 254 combinations of reactance
insertion.  The KAT1's 1022 combinations would be minimum, IMHO.

A small, capable, simple-to-operate, very low-power-consumption
QRP rig still has great appeal even with availability of the
overwhelming capability of the KX3.  I'd like to have both.

...and the KX2 slot in the Elecraft line needs filling! :-)

Mike / KK5F

  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review

2014-12-16 Thread Eric Norris
My KX1 puts out over 5 watts when powered with an A123 LiFePO pack, and will 
run longer than I can from a small.4S1P battery.  It fits perfectly into a 
Pelican 1060 box, which makes it nearly indestructible when using it to soften 
face plants while xc skiing.  It's perfect as is, though a 40-20-15 version 
would be interesting.

I'd like to see a single-band KX0, the size of a Rockmite, a full 1-2 watts 
out, with attendant Elecraft mojo.  THAT would be cool.  It could use an 
outboard T1 for tuning wires.

73

Eric WD6DBM

Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net wrote:

Phil wrote:

 A reasonable assessment, Johnny. Of course the KX1 
 was designed as the ultimate Trail-Friendly Radio 
 (TFR) and that it is!

I always preferred the K1 versus the KX1.  I must have 15m,
plus the KX1 really needs a four-pole IF filter, IMO.

I have a dream of a KX2 that is a KX1 descendant, with four-pole
filter, 15m and maybe other bands not on a KX1, back-lit LCD vs
LED, noise blanker, and everything required for the band coverage
laid out from the start in the design, and not as an after-
thought.  (As has been often noted, the KX1 is not particularly
easy rig to build with all the options.)  I'd also like to see
5 watt output on all bands with 14 vdc power.  Perhaps it could
even be a factory-built SMT design.  Finally, that KX2 would need
an ATU capable of far more than 254 combinations of reactance
insertion.  The KAT1's 1022 combinations would be minimum, IMHO.

A small, capable, simple-to-operate, very low-power-consumption
QRP rig still has great appeal even with availability of the
overwhelming capability of the KX3.  I'd like to have both.

...and the KX2 slot in the Elecraft line needs filling! :-)

Mike / KK5F
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[Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review

2014-12-16 Thread Johnny Siu
Basic KX1 gives more power.  I am not surprised for power output over 4W.  
However, with the addition of KXB3080 module, the low pass filter LPF1 is a 
compromise, it will be hard to squeeze power up to 4 watts.
73
Johnny VR2XMCKX1 # 2839
  寄件人︰ Eric Norris norrislawfi...@gmail.com
 收件人︰ Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net 
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 傳送日期︰ 2014年12月17日 (週三) 2:55 PM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review
   


My KX1 puts out over 5 watts when powered with an A123 LiFePO pack, and will 
run longer than I can from a small.4S1P battery.  It fits perfectly into a 
Pelican 1060 box, which makes it nearly indestructible when using it to soften 
face plants while xc skiing.  It's perfect as is, though a 40-20-15 version 
would be interesting.

I'd like to see a single-band KX0, the size of a Rockmite, a full 1-2 watts 
out, with attendant Elecraft mojo.  THAT would be cool.  It could use an 
outboard T1 for tuning wires.

73

Eric WD6DBM

Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net wrote:

Phil wrote:

 A reasonable assessment, Johnny. Of course the KX1 
 was designed as the ultimate Trail-Friendly Radio 
 (TFR) and that it is!

I always preferred the K1 versus the KX1.  I must have 15m,
plus the KX1 really needs a four-pole IF filter, IMO.

I have a dream of a KX2 that is a KX1 descendant, with four-pole
filter, 15m and maybe other bands not on a KX1, back-lit LCD vs
LED, noise blanker, and everything required for the band coverage
laid out from the start in the design, and not as an after-
thought.  (As has been often noted, the KX1 is not particularly
easy rig to build with all the options.)  I'd also like to see
5 watt output on all bands with 14 vdc power.  Perhaps it could
even be a factory-built SMT design.  Finally, that KX2 would need
an ATU capable of far more than 254 combinations of reactance
insertion.  The KAT1's 1022 combinations would be minimum, IMHO.

A small, capable, simple-to-operate, very low-power-consumption
QRP rig still has great appeal even with availability of the
overwhelming capability of the KX3.  I'd like to have both.

...and the KX2 slot in the Elecraft line needs filling! :-)

Mike / KK5F

  
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[Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review (some impriovements in the manuals required)

2014-12-15 Thread Johnny Siu
  Irecently built a Elecraft KX1 for a local ham in VR2 who cannot DIY himself 
dueto some reasons.  This KX1 comes with theKXB3080 30/80 module and KXAT1 ATU 
module. I would like to share with you some of my experience and views 
duringthe construction process. Theconstruction of the basic KX1 was straight 
forward and required less skill thanK2.  Although the manual of KX1 is 
wellwritten, it does not clearly take into account the possibly of the 
futureconstruction of KXB3080 and KXAT1.  Thisis the major deficiency of the 
manual and I would not expect that from Elecraftafter constructing many K2s in 
the past. Thespace tolerance with the installation of KXB3080 and KXAT1 is very 
tightespecially near the low pass filters L1  L2 area.  Therefore, the 
construction manual of KX1should forth warn and draw the builder great 
attention:    
   - Page 32 of the KX1 manual, C46-C49, C54 should be soldered at the top 
(i.e.component) side with all the legs cut flush at the bottom side.  This will 
give more space for the futureinstallation of LPF1 (tiny PCB) of KXB3080.
   - Don W3FPR had kindly sent me one page note of ‘building KXB3080 
withoutunsoldering (almost)’ which was extremely useful.  This literature 
should be included in the KX1manual. 
The tinyLPF1 pcb of KXB3080 is to be situated in the tight space formed between 
the C46-C49 C54 area of KX1 and R3-R4  C10 area of KXAT1.  Therefore, Page 3 
of KXAT1 manual, R3, R4 C10 should be soldered on the component side and cut 
flush on the otherside. To summarize:   
   - Construction of KXB3080 especially the LPF1 low pass filter required a 
higherskill level similar to K2 and definitely nothing like beginner’s level;
   - Don W3FPR literature mentioned above should be included with the KX1manual 
as a standard reference.
 Finally,back to performance, KX1 is a real nice little QRP radio with good 
RXselectivity and sensitivity.  However, the radio is very expensive when you 
add up the KXB3080 and KXAT1.  Try to compare with K1, K2 and KX3 in termsof 
price Vs performance before making your purchase decision.
73,
Johnny VR2XMC 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft KX1 - a builder's review (some impriovements in the manuals required)

2014-12-15 Thread Johnny Siu
Re-sent in a better text format:

I recently built a Elecraft KX1 for a local ham in VR2 who cannot DIY himself 
dueto some reasons.  This KX1 comes with the KXB3080 30/80 module and KXAT1 ATU 
module. I would like to share with you some of my experience and views during 
the construction process.

The construction of the basic KX1 was straight forward and required less skill 
than K2.  Although the manual of KX1 is well written, it does not clearly take 
into account the possibly of the future construction of KXB3080 and KXAT1.  
This is the major deficiency of the manual and I would not expect that from 
Elecraft after constructing many K2s in the past.

The space tolerance with the installation of KXB3080 and KXAT1 is very tight 
especially near the low pass filters L1  L2 area.  Therefore, the construction 
manual of KX1 should forth warn and draw the builder great attention: 
   
1.   - Page 32 of the KX1 manual, C46-C49, C54 should be soldered at the top 
(i.e.component) side with all the legs cut flush at the bottom side.  This will 
give more space for the future installation of LPF1 (tiny PCB) of KXB3080.
2.   - Don W3FPR had kindly sent me one page note of ‘building KXB3080 without 
unsoldering (almost)’ which was extremely useful.  This literature should be 
included in the KX1 manual. 

The tiny LPF1 pcb of KXB3080 is to be situated in the tight space formed 
between the C46-C49 C54 area of KX1 and R3-R4  C10 area of KXAT1.  Therefore, 
Page 3 of KXAT1 manual, R3, R4 C10 should be soldered on the component side 
and cut flush on the other side. 

To summarize:  
1.   - Construction of KXB3080 especially the LPF1 low pass filter required a 
higher skill level similar to K2 and definitely nothing like beginner’s level;
2.   - Don W3FPR literature mentioned above should be included with the KX1 
manual as a standard reference.
 
Finally, back to performance, KX1 is a real nice little QRP radio with good RX 
selectivity and sensitivity.  However, the radio is very expensive when you add 
up the KXB3080 and KXAT1.  Try to compare with K1, K2 and KX3 in terms of price 
Vs performance before making your purchase decision.

73,
Johnny VR2XMC
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