Re: [Elecraft] Ergonomics

2010-07-03 Thread Dave G.
Having a Ham radio is much like having a cat ...

Eventually they both train you to get your required action!!

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[Elecraft] Ergonomics was : Re: rather provocative advert from Kenwood

2010-07-03 Thread Pete Smith
As a brand new K3 owner, I find complaints about front panel ergonomics 
pretty funny.  My previous high-end radio was a Yaesu Mark 5, and its 
ergonomics were just terrible.  In designing the original 1000MP, Yaesu 
made some of the most absurd design choices in their placement of 
important controls, such as the RF power control, the sub-RX audio gain, 
and the RIT.  Then, seemingly in order to avoid having to make up a new 
front panel casting, they shoehorned the Mark 5's new filter selection 
and DSP scheme in where it didn't belong.  Chaos!

I find the K3's design almost entirely intuitive.  It comes the closest 
of any radio I have owned in my 55 years on the air to being a seamless 
connection between me and the band I'm working.  Well done, guys!

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 7/2/2010 6:47 PM, George A. Thornton wrote:
> It is inevitable that the competitors would notice the success of the K3
> and respond competitively.   Kenwood used to make quality HF radios but
> long ago lost their way.  I would be interested in seeing a review when
> one comes out.
>
> In my travels I think there are a number of people who object to the K3
> because they like the larger face and more traditional controls such as
> individual band and mode registers.  Most of these HAMS have not
> actually operated much with a K3. In my limited experience the controls
> you most want to use while operating are right there and ready for quick
> use in the K3.  It may be slightly slower to change modes or bands, but
> it is not that big a deal.
>
> I think there may be a market for an add-on module that sits next to the
> K3 and offers more button and knob options.  This may sway the more
> traditional.  We might speculate as to what we want, but I would
> certainly add individual mode and band pushbuttons.
>
> I envisage a box identical in size to the P3, so you would have your add
> on module on one side, the K3 in the center and the P3 on the other.
>
> It won't work any better than the K3, but it will look impressive for
> those looking for the biggest box with the largest number of controls
> and buttons.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Rock
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: Elecraft
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] rather provocative advert from Kenwood
>
> This is broken too.  After crashing my system twice I find it is not
> worth my time to download the .pdf
> Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
>> From: Lew Phelps K6LMP
>> Sent: Jul 2, 2010 2:19 PM
>> To: Elecraft
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] rather provocative advert from Kenwood
>>
>> I downloaded this PDF file and uploaded it to a site anyone can access:
>>
>> http://public.me.com/lewphelps
>>
>> Has anyone seen specs and price for the new Kenwood?
>>
>> Lew Phelps K6LMP
>>
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Any chance this exists somewhere where creating a Google account
>>>
> isn't a prerequisite
>
>>>
>>> On Jul 2, 2010, at 3:43 PM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
>>>
>>>

> https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0Bw6A6YLa6L3rZjhjNWRiMGUtODZiMi00OWM
> 3LTljYmItNWM3ODY2YWU0YjVi&hl=en&authkey=CLe25YAE
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