Re: [Elecraft] Filters for weak signal 160 meter CW and crowded contest bands

2009-01-15 Thread Carl Clawson
 

 -Original Message-
 
 I wish I could vary the pitch of a signal directly while 
 listening to it, instead of having the sidetone cover it up. 
 
 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z
 

Me also. I use different pitches depending on what I'm doing. Higher for
casual QSOs, lower for contesting  pileups. It helps spread out closely
packed stations.

Ditto the sidetone volume. I require several volume settings depending on
which speaker or headphones I'm using and by the time I realize that I have
it wrong I'm in the middle of a QSO and can't change it without drowning out
either myself or the other station.

73  thanks for listening
Carl WS7L
K3 #486

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Re: [Elecraft] Filters for weak signal 160 meter CW and crowded contest bands

2009-01-15 Thread Gary NL7Y



I wish I could vary the pitch of a signal directly while listening to
it, instead of having the sidetone cover it up. 

73,
Drew
AF2Z

Excellent suggestion Drew. My IC-765 has that feature (as do many rigs), and
I recently forgot how much I depended upon it until I sent my K3 into
Elecraft for upgrades, and started using the 765 again. It does fine tune in
real time for the best CW audio/sig strength on the 765, much better than
the K3's implementation for me. 

I wonder if the Elecraft folks can offer that feature in the future?

73 Gary NL7Y
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Re: [Elecraft] Filters for weak signal 160 meter CW and crowded contest bands

2009-01-14 Thread Bill W4ZV



Dana Roode wrote:
 
 I've seen lots of discussion about K3 filters so here's my question.
 I've got the 400 hz 8 pole filter and it works well.  During the ARRL
 160 contest I had trouble running due to someone else doing so about
 300 hz up the band.  I was thinking about acquiring either the 250 8
 pole or the 200 5 pole.  Any thoughts?  I have not seen any data on
 the 200 hz filter, but the 250 seems more like a 370 hz filter if you
 look at the filter plot.  Which do I want?
 

Probably the 200 Hz.  You're correct about the 250 which is only ~65 Hz
narrower than the 400 (which is actually ~435 Hz if my memory is correct). 
My 200 measures ~205 Hz at the 6 dB points so you would notice more of a
difference with it even though it has wider shoulders (i.e. 5-pole instead
of 8-pole).

I have both a 500 and 200 and use both on 160.  Normally I prefer the 500
but there are times when the 200 is very nice to have...such as in a large
nearly simplex DX pileup with lots of strong stations calling.  I would
normally not want to use the 200 in a contest, because I would miss the guys
calling off-frequency, but it's nice to have it available when necessary.

Someone else asked about the filter plots on the Elecraft and Inrad
websites.  I believe all of these were made by George W2VJN before he sold
Inrad to N5KO and AG9A.  I hope Elecraft or Inrad might ask George to graph
the missing filters (all 5-pole and some 8-pole) eventually (including the
yet to be introduced variable bandwidth filters).  If George cannot do it
perhaps Jack K8ZOA could do this.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] Filters for weak signal 160 meter CW and crowded contest bands

2009-01-14 Thread Gary NL7Y


I was thinking about acquiring either the 250 8
pole or the 200 5 pole.  Any thoughts?  
Dana, K6NR

Hello Dana. At my noisy QTH in Fairbanks, I often use the 200 Hz filter at a
BW of 100 to 200 on 160M. I have both the 500 and 200 filters, but to get
the QRN down, and maybe improve the S/N, the narrow filter and setting is
best on what is often weak DX for me. On my small city lot I use a rotatable
receiving loop (Wellbrook), which can hear better than my Inv-L most times. 

Also play with the AGC Slope (~3), Threshold (~6-8), CW pitch (~450-600 Hz),
and filter insertion loss compensation (~4-6 db) to peak the weak sigs.  I
put the AGC settings on the PF 1-2 buttons for ready access as changes are
often required depending upon the condx.

73 Gary NL7Y
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