Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
Toby Deinhardt wrote: I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer: What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North American allocations. vy 73 de toby What happens if I take my K2/100 or my IC-746 to another country with TX band limits which are not the same as the North American allocations (which differ from country to country within North America)? What countries would not allow those radios to come in to the country with me? Will they not let me operate? I have not run into this restriction in about 15 or so countries so far. I just want to know where I don't want to go to visit and operate. 73HankK8DD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
I don't know Thai law at all, but if it's that easy to change the band limits, would the Thai authorities consider the radio to have band limits at all? Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian G4ILO Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 9:12 AM To: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In some countries yes. > > If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" > band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too. > Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them again. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
Now that sounds like a VERy good idea, then those that want limits can have them, and those that don, er, don't On 1/12/07 17:11, "Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In some countries yes. >> >> If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" >> band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too. >> > > Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the > firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just > program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them > again. -- I don't mind that you think slowly but I do mind that you are publishing faster than you think. -Wolfgang Pauli, physicist, Nobel laureate (1900-1958) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In some countries yes. > > If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" > band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too. > Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them again. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
>Does that requirement exist for home built equipment? Surely you could >argue that the K3 is something you built yourself. > As pretty and sophisticated as the K3 is...I rather doubt the slickest car salesman could convince an authority that the radio was a home built one. de Joe, aa4nn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
Actually I was thinking more of HF band limits between EU and NA Maybe its not really a worry Simon Lewis GM4PLM/DL4PLM http://www.dl4plm.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toby Deinhardt Sent: Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007 14:49 To: KBG Luxford Cc: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands In some countries yes. If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too. vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2/10 #885 K2/100 #3248 K3/100 #67 DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG, JN58td KBG Luxford wrote: > Does that requirement exist for home built equipment? Surely you > could > argue that the K3 is something you built yourself. > > Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the > attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you > will experience sanctions." > > 73 > Kevin > VK3DAP / ZL2DAP > > Toby Deinhardt wrote: >> > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory >> delivery > the firmware label on the board says US band limits >> >> I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer: >> >> What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band >> limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and >> require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North >> American allocations. >> >> >> vy 73 de toby > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
In some countries yes. If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too. vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2/10 #885 K2/100 #3248 K3/100 #67 DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG, JN58td KBG Luxford wrote: Does that requirement exist for home built equipment? Surely you could argue that the K3 is something you built yourself. Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you will experience sanctions." 73 Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP Toby Deinhardt wrote: > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery > the firmware label on the board says US band limits I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer: What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North American allocations. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
Does that requirement exist for home built equipment? Surely you could argue that the K3 is something you built yourself. Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you will experience sanctions." 73 Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP Toby Deinhardt wrote: > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery > the firmware label on the board says US band limits I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer: What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North American allocations. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
> Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery > the firmware label on the board says US band limits I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer: What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North American allocations. vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2/10 #885 K2/100 #3248 K3/100 #67 DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG, JN58td ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands
Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery the firmware label on the board says US band limits Is there available EU firmware to install EU limits??? Or did I miss something on the firmware pages Rgds Simon Simon Lewis GM4PLM/DL4PLM http://www.dl4plm.net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com