Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread hank k8dd

Toby Deinhardt wrote:

I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:

What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band 
limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and 
require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North 
American allocations.


vy 73 de toby


What happens if I take my K2/100 or my IC-746 to another country with TX 
band limits which are not the same as the North American allocations 
(which differ from country to country within North America)?
What countries would not allow those radios to come in to the country 
with me?

Will they not let me operate?

I have not run into this restriction in about 15 or so countries so 
far.  I just want to know where I don't want to go to visit and operate.


73HankK8DD


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RE: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I don't know Thai law at all, but if it's that easy to change the band
limits, would the Thai authorities consider the radio to have band limits at
all? 

Dick, K6KR


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In some countries yes.
>
> If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard"
> band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.
>

Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the
firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just
program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them
again.

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Now that sounds like a VERy good idea, then those that want limits can have
them, and those that don, er, don't


On 1/12/07 17:11, "Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In some countries yes.
>> 
>> If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard"
>> band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.
>> 
> 
> Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the
> firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just
> program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them
> again.

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Julian G4ILO
On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In some countries yes.
>
> If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard"
> band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.
>

Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the
firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just
program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them
again.

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Joe, aa4nn

>Does that requirement exist for home built equipment?  Surely you could 
>argue that the K3 is something you built yourself.
>

As pretty and sophisticated as the K3 is...I rather doubt
the slickest car salesman could convince an authority that
the radio was a home built one.
de Joe, aa4nn


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RE: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Simon Lewis
Actually I was thinking more of HF band limits between EU and NA

Maybe its not really a worry





Simon Lewis 
GM4PLM/DL4PLM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands


In some countries yes.

If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" 
band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.

vy 73 de toby
-- 
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K2/10  #885
K2/100 #3248
K3/100 #67
DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG, JN58td



KBG Luxford wrote:
> Does that requirement exist for home built equipment?  Surely you 
> could
> argue that the K3 is something you built yourself.
> 
> Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the
> attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you 
> will experience sanctions."
> 
> 73
> Kevin
> VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
> 
> Toby Deinhardt wrote:
>>  > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory 
>> delivery  > the firmware label on the board says US band limits
>>
>> I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:
>>
>> What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band
>> limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and 
>> require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North 
>> American allocations.
>>
>>
>> vy 73 de toby
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Toby Deinhardt

In some countries yes.

If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" 
band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.


vy 73 de toby
--
DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz)
K2/10  #885
K2/100 #3248
K3/100 #67
DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG, JN58td



KBG Luxford wrote:
Does that requirement exist for home built equipment?  Surely you could 
argue that the K3 is something you built yourself.


Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the 
attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you 
will experience sanctions."


73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

Toby Deinhardt wrote:

 > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery
 > the firmware label on the board says US band limits

I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:

What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band 
limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and 
require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North 
American allocations.



vy 73 de toby




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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread KBG Luxford
Does that requirement exist for home built equipment?  Surely you could 
argue that the K3 is something you built yourself.


Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the 
attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you 
will experience sanctions."


73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

Toby Deinhardt wrote:

 > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery
 > the firmware label on the board says US band limits

I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:

What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band limits 
are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and require 
built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North American 
allocations.



vy 73 de toby

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Toby Deinhardt

> Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery
> the firmware label on the board says US band limits

I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:

What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band limits 
are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and require 
built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North American 
allocations.



vy 73 de toby
--
DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz)
K2/10  #885
K2/100 #3248
K3/100 #67
DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG, JN58td
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[Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Simon Lewis
Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery the
firmware label on the board says US band limits

Is there available EU firmware to install EU limits???

Or did I miss something on the firmware pages

Rgds

Simon 


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