Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
Ruben (et. al.): De ninguna manera, por favor, no use el MicroHAM Router para cambiar la software en el K3. Sin ninguna excepcion, microHAM no suporta usar el Router para hacer esto y es muy posible danar el K3 en esta manera. Si usted utiliza el sistema microHAM Router en esta manera, lo hace a su propio riesgo para el radio y el equipo de microHAM. Just making sure everybody understands the importance of what Joe says in his message. Here is what I do: I have a Dell GX280 PC as my ham radio computer. It has one "real" serial port and 6 USB onboard ports. My K3 is attached to Router using a Saelig.com FTDI chipset based USB to serial converter. The output of this converter goes to a $8.00 2 in one out DB9 Mechanical Data switch on port A. The output of the "real" serial port goes to that same switch on port B. A short serial DB9 to DB9 cable goes from port C of the switch to the radio. When I want to use the rig with the microHAM router and the MicroKEYER 2 interface, I switch to port A. When I want to configure the rig using K3-EZ or the Elecraft K3 Utility, I switch to port B. I have never had an issue with software uploads or control glitches with this wiring scheme. Plus, the data switch makes a nice pedestal to mount my Autek WM1! When I throw the mechanical switch from port to port, microHAM router recognizes that communication is lost and flashes the frequency display in the MicroKEYER 2's screen to let me know the radio is not under MicroHAM control. Switching back to the Router's serial port re establishes the communication with the MicroKEYER device almost instantly and the display then shows my selected radio information (in my case, I display both of the receiver's frequency information. What information is displayed is selectable in the MicroKEYER 2's configuration tab in Router). This has always worked reliably here. Regards Lu Romero - W4LT Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 16:12:47 -0500 From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem To: "'Ruben Navarro Huedo'" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Setting "No radio" does not guarantee transparent operation by microHAM Router. Again: DO NOT PERFORM A FIRMWARE UPLOAD USING MICROHAM ROUTER WITH ANY MICROHAM INTERFACE. NO EXCEPTIONS. Even though I know my way around Router and the microHAM interfaces well enough to generally make sure Router is transparent, there is no way to force and lock the data rate between the microHAM interface and the transceiver. I keep a serial cable attached to a serial port on one of my computers specifically for use when updating K3 firmware. 73, ... Joe, W4TV No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (6.1.0.25 - 6.14300). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
Setting "No radio" does not guarantee transparent operation by microHAM Router. Again: DO NOT PERFORM A FIRMWARE UPLOAD USING MICROHAM ROUTER WITH ANY MICROHAM INTERFACE. NO EXCEPTIONS. Even though I know my way around Router and the microHAM interfaces well enough to generally make sure Router is transparent, there is no way to force and lock the data rate between the microHAM interface and the transceiver. I keep a serial cable attached to a serial port on one of my computers specifically for use when updating K3 firmware. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ruben > Navarro Huedo > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:26 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem > > > You can use microHAM, but you have to select: > No radio and dissable router queries in the microHAM software. > > > El 06/02/2010 21:21, Joe Subich, W4TV escribió: > > > > > >> I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 > and this has > >> been working great until now. > > > > DO NOT use microHAM Router to upload firmware to the K3. > > It IS NOT SUPPORTED. Find a computer with a hardware serial port or > > a dumb external USB to serial converter. > > > > 73, > > > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W4CCS > >> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:15 AM > >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem > >> > >> > >> Attempted to upload new firmware to the K3 this morning > and got the > >> "MCU LD" error. Now the K3 is basically dumb. In the > manual, it says > >> to unplug the power for 5 seconds, Hold the power button for > >> approximately 10 seconds and then re-load the firmware. > >> > >> My problem is that I can no longer get the computer to > talk to the K3 > >> and therefore cannot attempt a re-load. > >> > >> I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 > and this has > >> been working great until now. > >> > >> Question, does the K3 keep the old settings (38400, 8, N, > 1) or does > >> it resort back to the default settings which are ?? > >> > >> I also tried a direct cable (straight and null modem) and > cannot get > >> any communication to occur. > >> > >> > >> I'm stuck until I get the K3 talking to the computer again.. > >> > >> HELP..!! > >> > >> de W4CCS > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > -- > Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ > http://www.palotes.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
My opinion -- Since Joe W4TV is an authority on microHAM gear, I would say "use it at your own peril" if you insist. Yes, there have been reports of success, but Joe says IT IS NOT SUPPORTED! Please do not complain that you broke your K3 with a firmware load when you used the microHAM router., just get a good serial port (preferably hardware), follow the steps in the K3Utility help file and do a proper reload. 73, Don W3FPR Ruben Navarro Huedo wrote: > You can use microHAM, but you have to select: > No radio and dissable router queries in the microHAM software. > > > El 06/02/2010 21:21, Joe Subich, W4TV escribió: > >> >>> I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has >>> been working great until now. >>> >> DO NOT use microHAM Router to upload firmware to the K3. >> It IS NOT SUPPORTED. Find a computer with a hardware >> serial port or a dumb external USB to serial converter. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W4CCS >>> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:15 AM >>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem >>> >>> >>> Attempted to upload new firmware to the K3 this morning and >>> got the "MCU >>> LD" error. Now the K3 is basically dumb. In the manual, it says to >>> unplug the power for 5 seconds, Hold the power button for >>> approximately >>> 10 seconds and then re-load the firmware. >>> >>> My problem is that I can no longer get the computer to talk to the K3 >>> and therefore cannot attempt a re-load. >>> >>> I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has >>> been working great until now. >>> >>> Question, does the K3 keep the old settings (38400, 8, N, 1) >>> or does it >>> resort back to the default settings which are ?? >>> >>> I also tried a direct cable (straight and null modem) and >>> cannot get any >>> communication to occur. >>> >>> >>> I'm stuck until I get the K3 talking to the computer again.. >>> >>> HELP..!! >>> >>> de W4CCS >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2671 - Release Date: 02/06/10 > 02:35:00 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
You can use microHAM, but you have to select: No radio and dissable router queries in the microHAM software. El 06/02/2010 21:21, Joe Subich, W4TV escribió: > > >> I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has >> been working great until now. > > DO NOT use microHAM Router to upload firmware to the K3. > It IS NOT SUPPORTED. Find a computer with a hardware > serial port or a dumb external USB to serial converter. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W4CCS >> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:15 AM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem >> >> >> Attempted to upload new firmware to the K3 this morning and >> got the "MCU >> LD" error. Now the K3 is basically dumb. In the manual, it says to >> unplug the power for 5 seconds, Hold the power button for >> approximately >> 10 seconds and then re-load the firmware. >> >> My problem is that I can no longer get the computer to talk to the K3 >> and therefore cannot attempt a re-load. >> >> I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has >> been working great until now. >> >> Question, does the K3 keep the old settings (38400, 8, N, 1) >> or does it >> resort back to the default settings which are ?? >> >> I also tried a direct cable (straight and null modem) and >> cannot get any >> communication to occur. >> >> >> I'm stuck until I get the K3 talking to the computer again.. >> >> HELP..!! >> >> de W4CCS >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ http://www.palotes.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
> I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has > been working great until now. DO NOT use microHAM Router to upload firmware to the K3. It IS NOT SUPPORTED. Find a computer with a hardware serial port or a dumb external USB to serial converter. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W4CCS > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:15 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem > > > Attempted to upload new firmware to the K3 this morning and > got the "MCU > LD" error. Now the K3 is basically dumb. In the manual, it says to > unplug the power for 5 seconds, Hold the power button for > approximately > 10 seconds and then re-load the firmware. > > My problem is that I can no longer get the computer to talk to the K3 > and therefore cannot attempt a re-load. > > I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has > been working great until now. > > Question, does the K3 keep the old settings (38400, 8, N, 1) > or does it > resort back to the default settings which are ?? > > I also tried a direct cable (straight and null modem) and > cannot get any > communication to occur. > > > I'm stuck until I get the K3 talking to the computer again.. > > HELP..!! > > de W4CCS > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
> The K3 bootstrap loader runs at 38400. After firmware loaf Sliced? Or unsliced? 8-) Will you be going to Visalia this year? 73, George T Daughters, K6GT CU in the California QSO Party (CQP) October 2-3, 2010 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
Thanks to all.. The 38400 setting and a straight cable corrected the problem.. All firmware uploaded and we are back in business.. Again, Thanks de W4CCS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
The K3 bootstrap loader runs at 38400. After firmware loaf, the K3 Utility restores the speed it started with. However if the firmware load fails, the K3 may stay at 38400. Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2010, at 8:14 AM, W4CCS wrote: > Attempted to upload new firmware to the K3 this morning and got the > "MCU > LD" error. Now the K3 is basically dumb. In the manual, it says to > unplug the power for 5 seconds, Hold the power button for > approximately > 10 seconds and then re-load the firmware. > > My problem is that I can no longer get the computer to talk to the K3 > and therefore cannot attempt a re-load. > > I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has > been working great until now. > > Question, does the K3 keep the old settings (38400, 8, N, 1) or does > it > resort back to the default settings which are ?? > > I also tried a direct cable (straight and null modem) and cannot get > any > communication to occur. > > > I'm stuck until I get the K3 talking to the computer again.. > > HELP..!! > > de W4CCS > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
Use a USB to Serial adapter or an RS 232 cable, do not attempt to load firmware through the microHAM router. It works sometimes, but this mechanism is not reliable for firmware load. Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2010, at 8:14 AM, W4CCS wrote: > Attempted to upload new firmware to the K3 this morning and got the > "MCU > LD" error. Now the K3 is basically dumb. In the manual, it says to > unplug the power for 5 seconds, Hold the power button for > approximately > 10 seconds and then re-load the firmware. > > My problem is that I can no longer get the computer to talk to the K3 > and therefore cannot attempt a re-load. > > I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has > been working great until now. > > Question, does the K3 keep the old settings (38400, 8, N, 1) or does > it > resort back to the default settings which are ?? > > I also tried a direct cable (straight and null modem) and cannot get > any > communication to occur. > > > I'm stuck until I get the K3 talking to the computer again.. > > HELP..!! > > de W4CCS > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Firmware upload problem
Attempted to upload new firmware to the K3 this morning and got the "MCU LD" error. Now the K3 is basically dumb. In the manual, it says to unplug the power for 5 seconds, Hold the power button for approximately 10 seconds and then re-load the firmware. My problem is that I can no longer get the computer to talk to the K3 and therefore cannot attempt a re-load. I'm using the Microham router software to talk to the K3 and this has been working great until now. Question, does the K3 keep the old settings (38400, 8, N, 1) or does it resort back to the default settings which are ?? I also tried a direct cable (straight and null modem) and cannot get any communication to occur. I'm stuck until I get the K3 talking to the computer again.. HELP..!! de W4CCS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
