[Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-02 Thread Steve KC8QVO
Is there a good place to tap the IF stream for an output? I have a spectrum
analyzer and was thinking of running an IF-out to the analyzer, it doesn't
matter what frequency if its under a gig. 

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Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve,

You did not say which transceiver you have, so we can't really answer 
except to say that the K3 does have an IF output if you install the KXV3 
option.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/2/2012 1:51 PM, Steve KC8QVO wrote:
> Is there a good place to tap the IF stream for an output? I have a spectrum
> analyzer and was thinking of running an IF-out to the analyzer, it doesn't
> matter what frequency if its under a gig.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-02 Thread Mike Morrow
> Is there a good place to tap the IF stream for an output?

Are you asking this about a Wells-Gardner BC-348-R?

For some reason, it always seems to help if the applicable radio
is identified. :-)

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-02 Thread Steve KC8QVO
I figured the radio was implied since I posted in the K2 forum  In any event,
its a K2 SN 6950. I'm just looking for a constant frequency I can use
post-VFO to run through my spectrum analyzer so I can see the band I'm on. 

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Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve,

This Elecraft email reflector stopped being the K2 reflector as soon as 
the K1 was available, and now there are questions about the K3, K2, K1, 
KX1, now the KX3, KPA500, KRC2, mini-modules, and any other product that 
Elecraft has produced or has announced for the future.

Clifton Labs Z1-K2 buffer can be installed in the K2 to provide 
IFoutput for your spectrum analyzer.  Look at 
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/2/2012 3:05 PM, Steve KC8QVO wrote:
> I figured the radio was implied since I posted in the K2 forum  In any event,
> its a K2 SN 6950. I'm just looking for a constant frequency I can use
> post-VFO to run through my spectrum analyzer so I can see the band I'm on.
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-02 Thread Leroy Marion
Or to your softrock  for a panadaptor.  Clifton Labs
has high quailty/easy to build IF ports. I put one
together in my K2, it works excellent.

Leroy AB7CE

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:01 PM
To: Steve KC8QVO
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

Steve,

This Elecraft email reflector stopped being the K2 reflector as soon as
the K1 was available, and now there are questions about the K3, K2, K1,
KX1, now the KX3, KPA500, KRC2, mini-modules, and any other product that
Elecraft has produced or has announced for the future.

Clifton Labs Z1-K2 buffer can be installed in the K2 to provide
IFoutput for your spectrum analyzer.  Look at
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/2/2012 3:05 PM, Steve KC8QVO wrote:
> I figured the radio was implied since I posted in the K2 forum  In any 
> event,
> its a K2 SN 6950. I'm just looking for a constant frequency I can use
> post-VFO to run through my spectrum analyzer so I can see the band I'm on.
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-02 Thread Steve KC8QVO

Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
> 
> Steve,
> 
> This Elecraft email reflector stopped being the K2 reflector as soon as 
> the K1 was available, and now there are questions about the K3, K2, K1, 
> KX1, now the KX3, KPA500, KRC2, mini-modules, and any other product that 
> Elecraft has produced or has announced for the future.
> 
> Clifton Labs Z1-K2 buffer can be installed in the K2 to provide 
> IFoutput for your spectrum analyzer.  Look at 
> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 

In regards to the reflector/forum - I posted on the website under the K2
forum. There are also categories for the K1, KX1, K3, etc. I am not using
the e-mail system to get the post in to the reflector. I forgot that the
e-mail list does not "categorize" posts in the same regard that the website
does for the reflector. 

Just playing around here - I dug out my manual and found the RX Mixer. I
tapped the Post-Mixer Amp side of C159 and the ground side of R80 with a
length of RG-174. Then I ran that back to the receive antenna connector on
the 160 module (desoldered the wires to the 160 module). I figured this
would give me a 4.915mHz reference from which to tap but it doesn't work too
well. There's more to learn here for sure. 

I figured there would be a place in the circuit I could tap to bring out the
IF to the analyzer. Would I not be correct in assuming that the spectrum
analyzer can read the same signal(s) fed to the rest of the K2's receiver?


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Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve,

One cannot usually use a spectrum analyzer "in situ" like you would an 
oscilloscope - the spectrum analyzer has a 50 ohm input and will load 
the "circuit under test" significantly.  That is why you need the buffer 
amplifier.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/2/2012 5:35 PM, Steve KC8QVO wrote:
> Just playing around here - I dug out my manual and found the RX Mixer. 
> I tapped the Post-Mixer Amp side of C159 and the ground side of R80 
> with a length of RG-174. Then I ran that back to the receive antenna 
> connector on the 160 module (desoldered the wires to the 160 module). 
> I figured this would give me a 4.915mHz reference from which to tap 
> but it doesn't work too well. There's more to learn here for sure. I 
> figured there would be a place in the circuit I could tap to bring out 
> the IF to the analyzer. Would I not be correct in assuming that the 
> spectrum analyzer can read the same signal(s) fed to the rest of the 
> K2's receiver? 
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Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?

2012-01-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Steve,

Installing a buffer amp such as the Clifton Labs Z1 - K2 is the 
"cleanest" solution, but there is an alternative if you are just playing :-)

Depending on the level of the natural noise floor of your Spectrum Analyzer 
and the interconnecting coax's capacitance, the IF signal at the emitter of 
the post-mixer amp Q22 might be strong enough to drive the Spectrum 
Analyzer. To avoid "upsetting" the post-mixer amp, you would have to connect 
your Analyzer's "hot" input to Q22's emitter via a R and C in series.  I 
suggest that the value of the added capacitor be 10nF, and that the value of 
the added R be not less than 470 ohms.

The function of the added capacitor is only to prevent any DC from the K2 
reaching your Spectrum Analyzer.

The shield of the coax at the post-mixer amp end should be grounded using 
the same pad (if possible) which is used to ground one side of C162.

Have fun!

73,
Geoff
LX2AO



















- Original Message - 
From: "Steve KC8QVO" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IF tap?


>
> Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> This Elecraft email reflector stopped being the K2 reflector as soon as
>> the K1 was available, and now there are questions about the K3, K2, K1,
>> KX1, now the KX3, KPA500, KRC2, mini-modules, and any other product that
>> Elecraft has produced or has announced for the future.
>>
>> Clifton Labs Z1-K2 buffer can be installed in the K2 to provide
>> IFoutput for your spectrum analyzer.  Look at
>> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>
> In regards to the reflector/forum - I posted on the website under the K2
> forum. There are also categories for the K1, KX1, K3, etc. I am not using
> the e-mail system to get the post in to the reflector. I forgot that the
> e-mail list does not "categorize" posts in the same regard that the 
> website
> does for the reflector.
>
> Just playing around here - I dug out my manual and found the RX Mixer. I
> tapped the Post-Mixer Amp side of C159 and the ground side of R80 with a
> length of RG-174. Then I ran that back to the receive antenna connector on
> the 160 module (desoldered the wires to the 160 module). I figured this
> would give me a 4.915mHz reference from which to tap but it doesn't work 
> too
> well. There's more to learn here for sure.
>
> I figured there would be a place in the circuit I could tap to bring out 
> the
> IF to the analyzer. Would I not be correct in assuming that the spectrum
> analyzer can read the same signal(s) fed to the rest of the K2's receiver?
>
>
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