Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-12-04 Thread Gary D Krause
Hi Wayne, will in that case... It's Sunday evening and I just ordered the 
K3.:-)  I plan to keep my K2 and it will be interesting to see how they 
compare.

Thanks,
Gary, N7HTS


On Thu, 1 Dec 2011 10:32:02 -0800
  Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 Gary D Krause wrote:
 
 darn it, I have this itch and it won't go away this time!  I may  have 
to
 just buy a K3 and I'll blame [Ed] if it doesn't work out
 
 Gary,
 
 If you buy a K3, you need to blame *me* if it doesn't work out :)
 
 Seriously, let me know if you have any lingering questions.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-12-01 Thread Gary D Krause
Sales commission?  You get a sales commission? ;-)  Ed, I only had a new rig 
the first few years.  That was the first three years.  What can I say, I was 
excited about the hobby (I still am) and I was single.  My first was a Kenwood 
TS-530SP which I still have and use.  My second rig was a Ten Tec Century 22 a 
CW rig which I still have and use.  My third rig was a Kenwood TS-440s which I 
no longer have.  In 2007 I bought a Ten Tec Argonaut V.  I didn't like the DSP 
so I sold it after eight months and bought the K2 and put it together.  It 
ended up being a K2/100 but, I switch the tops back and forth depending on how 
I feel and what I want to work.  I really like it and as well as my other rigs 
but, darn it, I have this itch and it won't go away this time!  I may have to 
just buy a K3 and I'll blame you it it doesn't work out.  Okay? ;-)




On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:26:57 -0900
  Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:
 Gary,
 
 Wow a new rig every year!
 
 Lets see:
 1957 - new Knight Ocean Hopper $19.95, used Heath DX-35 $35
 1966 - used Clegg Interceptor-B, used Johnson Ranger
 1967- new Heath SB-110
 1976 - new IC-211
 1982 - new TS-180S
 1996 - new Tentec Scout
 1997 - used FT-840
 1998 - new FT-847
 1999 - new FT-817
 2009 - new K3
 2012?  new KX3
 
 54-years = 8 new radios - one every seven years.
 
 Gary,  Simply love the K3.  You done your research - now just buy the K3.
 (Wayne - just mail me my sales commission ;-))
 
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-12-01 Thread Wayne Burdick
Gary D Krause wrote:

 darn it, I have this itch and it won't go away this time!  I may  
 have to
 just buy a K3 and I'll blame [Ed] if it doesn't work out

Gary,

If you buy a K3, you need to blame *me* if it doesn't work out :)

Seriously, let me know if you have any lingering questions.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Gary D Krause
The first few years that I was licensed, I bought a new rig almost every year. 
 In the last ten years I have only bought two HF rigs.  I sold the first one 
because, I didn't really like it and then I bought a K2 #6113 that I built 
four years ago and it's now my main rig.

Lately I've been getting the new rig itch.  I've compared all the rigs that 
I'm interested in.  They all have their strengths and weaknesses as far as the 
type of operating that I do.  I've looked at all the specs and downloaded as 
much info as I can.  I've even read some of the manuals as well as reviews. 
 I've watched as many Youtube videos as possible since some of the rigs I have 
never seen or heard.  I've made several visits to HRO.  I know that this is an 
Elecraft reflector and I do own a K2 as will as other Elecraft kits but, you 
still have to check out the competition, right? ;-)

Now, over the last few years, I've been saving my money to buy a new rig.  I 
thought that this would be the year that I treat myself to a nice Christmas 
present.  Other than performance, I'm also considering, sound, ease of use, 
quality of build, price, service and looks.  When I say looks, I don't mean 
ergonomics.  I mean how it looks.  I never really thought about looks before 
until I saw several people mention it in reviews.  I suppose that makes me an 
HF rig fashion snob.  So be it.

Anyway, I've narrowed my selection down to two or three rigs, one of them 
being the K3.  Now I have overloaded myself with so much information that I'm 
like a deer caught in the headlights, not knowing which way to go.  I keep 
coming back to my K2 and thinking that I really can't get much better than 
that.  It's a super rig.

I just had to post this to help clear my mind so, that I might be able to make 
a decision...or not.

Thanks for listening,
Gary, N7HTS



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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Lou Kolb
If you've done the due dillogence you claim then you likely have read the 
Eham reviews of the K3.  There are several interesting comparrisons there. 
I can only add that it is quite simply the best rig i've ever owned in 
almost every way.  I can't imagine you'd be dissapointed if you went with 
the K3.  73,  Lou  WA3MIX
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- Original Message - 
From: Gary D Krause n7...@bresnan.net
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:04 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig


 The first few years that I was licensed, I bought a new rig almost every 
 year.
 In the last ten years I have only bought two HF rigs.  I sold the first 
 one
 because, I didn't really like it and then I bought a K2 #6113 that I built
 four years ago and it's now my main rig.

 Lately I've been getting the new rig itch.  I've compared all the rigs 
 that
 I'm interested in.  They all have their strengths and weaknesses as far as 
 the
 type of operating that I do.  I've looked at all the specs and downloaded 
 as
 much info as I can.  I've even read some of the manuals as well as 
 reviews.
 I've watched as many Youtube videos as possible since some of the rigs I 
 have
 never seen or heard.  I've made several visits to HRO.  I know that this 
 is an
 Elecraft reflector and I do own a K2 as will as other Elecraft kits but, 
 you
 still have to check out the competition, right? ;-)

 Now, over the last few years, I've been saving my money to buy a new rig. 
 I
 thought that this would be the year that I treat myself to a nice 
 Christmas
 present.  Other than performance, I'm also considering, sound, ease of 
 use,
 quality of build, price, service and looks.  When I say looks, I don't 
 mean
 ergonomics.  I mean how it looks.  I never really thought about looks 
 before
 until I saw several people mention it in reviews.  I suppose that makes me 
 an
 HF rig fashion snob.  So be it.

 Anyway, I've narrowed my selection down to two or three rigs, one of them
 being the K3.  Now I have overloaded myself with so much information that 
 I'm
 like a deer caught in the headlights, not knowing which way to go.  I keep
 coming back to my K2 and thinking that I really can't get much better than
 that.  It's a super rig.

 I just had to post this to help clear my mind so, that I might be able to 
 make
 a decision...or not.

 Thanks for listening,
 Gary, N7HTS



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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Phil LaMarche
Gary,

Over the years I've owned almost everything.  Last two radio's before the K3
was the 756PRO3 and Flex 5000.  Loved both of them.  3 1/2 years ago I
purchased the K3, loaded, factory assembled.  No need to go over the
reasons, but I have purchased my last HF radio.  I love it so much and it
just keeps getting better.  It's smarter than I am and I learn from it
daily.  Now have the P3 and KPA500 and I've very satisfied.  With each
upgrade it continues to grow.  There's no decision to make...K3 all the way.

Phil

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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread John Ragle
As past owner of Hallicrafters, TenTec, Flex, K2 and (presently) K3, I 
can say that the K3 is the best durn rig I've had in 65 years of hamming 
it up. WRT superficial looks, it is fairly typical of the present genre, 
but neither stylish nor ugly, just functional, functional, functional. 
The K2 was also functional, and trading it in on an F3K was quite a 
serious mistake on my part, cured only by acquisition of the K3/100 Ser. 
No. 4103.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

=

On 11/30/2011 3:04 PM, Gary D Krause wrote:
 The first few years that I was licensed, I bought a new rig almost every year.
   In the last ten years I have only bought two HF rigs.  I sold the first one
 because, I didn't really like it and then I bought a K2 #6113 that I built
 four years ago and it's now my main rig.

 Lately I've been getting the new rig itch.  I've compared all the rigs that
 I'm interested in.  They all have their strengths and weaknesses as far as the
 type of operating that I do.  I've looked at all the specs and downloaded as
 much info as I can.  I've even read some of the manuals as well as reviews.
   I've watched as many Youtube videos as possible since some of the rigs I 
 have
 never seen or heard.  I've made several visits to HRO.  I know that this is an
 Elecraft reflector and I do own a K2 as will as other Elecraft kits but, you
 still have to check out the competition, right? ;-)

 Now, over the last few years, I've been saving my money to buy a new rig.  I
 thought that this would be the year that I treat myself to a nice Christmas
 present.  Other than performance, I'm also considering, sound, ease of use,
 quality of build, price, service and looks.  When I say looks, I don't mean
 ergonomics.  I mean how it looks.  I never really thought about looks before
 until I saw several people mention it in reviews.  I suppose that makes me an
 HF rig fashion snob.  So be it.

 Anyway, I've narrowed my selection down to two or three rigs, one of them
 being the K3.  Now I have overloaded myself with so much information that I'm
 like a deer caught in the headlights, not knowing which way to go.  I keep
 coming back to my K2 and thinking that I really can't get much better than
 that.  It's a super rig.

 I just had to post this to help clear my mind so, that I might be able to make
 a decision...or not.

 Thanks for listening,
 Gary, N7HTS



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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Gary D Krause
Thanks guys.  Every once in a while, I make a post like this because, I get 
itchy.  I know that there is at least one ham here that has a K3 but, I can't 
remember who that is.  I'm sure there are more.

One of the things that has concerned me is that some have reported that the K3 
is hard to listen to after a while because, of high pitched hiss in the 
background.  I'm sure that this can be adjusted with all the audio settings 
that the K3 has, right?  I get the impression that some people don't quite 
understand how to use the settings correctly, get frustrated and give up. 
 Another reason to hear one for myself.  I've also notice that on the videos I 
have seen that the K2 always seems to be quieter than the K3 or any other rig. 
 I realize that they may not be using the best audio equipment, etc, but, it 
seems to be consistent with most videos I have seen.  Perhaps someone that has 
both the K3 and the K2 can shed some light on that here?

Thanks,
Gary




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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary,

Maybe I can help.  The high pitched hiss problem has been tackled over 
2 years ago with the addition of an audio low pass filter.  The reports 
you are reading do not represent today's K3.  That is an unfortunate 
consequence of Elecraft offering upgraded K3s (and K2s) without 
releasing a new model number as some other manufacturers are predisposed 
to do - if you want it fixed, buy the new model.  Elecraft does offer 
the means for owners to upgrade to the latest level, and that is unique 
in the world of ham radios as far as I know.

As for the K2 being more quiet than the K3, I believe that is an 
illusion.  The K3 is more sensitive than the K2, and its antenna input 
to audio output gain is higher than with the K2.  The result is that 
with all knobs to the right operation, the K3 audio will have a louder 
level of atmospheric band noise.  The solution is to turn off the preamp 
and add attenuation if that helps.  Another thing that will help a lot 
is the settings for the AGC parameters.  I encourage anyone with this 
problem to go to my website (www.w3fpr.com) and review the Noisy K3 
article.

The bottom line is that the K3 is highly configurable - the default 
settings are OK for many purposes, but can be refined for particular 
situations.  The K3 has more than ample gain, and its sensitivity is 
tops in its league - the roofing filters and DSP filtering will allow 
you to operate quite close to an adjacent signal on the band and you 
will not even know he is there - that is the best K3 strong point IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/30/2011 4:26 PM, Gary D Krause wrote:
 Thanks guys.  Every once in a while, I make a post like this because, I get
 itchy.  I know that there is at least one ham here that has a K3 but, I can't
 remember who that is.  I'm sure there are more.

 One of the things that has concerned me is that some have reported that the K3
 is hard to listen to after a while because, of high pitched hiss in the
 background.  I'm sure that this can be adjusted with all the audio settings
 that the K3 has, right?  I get the impression that some people don't quite
 understand how to use the settings correctly, get frustrated and give up.
   Another reason to hear one for myself.  I've also notice that on the videos 
 I
 have seen that the K2 always seems to be quieter than the K3 or any other rig.
   I realize that they may not be using the best audio equipment, etc, but, it
 seems to be consistent with most videos I have seen.  Perhaps someone that has
 both the K3 and the K2 can shed some light on that here?

 Thanks,
 Gary




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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Gary D Krause n7...@bresnan.net wrote:

 some have reported that the K3 is hard to listen to after a while...

=
Gary, I have found that the best way to quiet the K3 is not via the audio
settings, but by simply backing off the RF gain about 60 - 90 degrees from
max. This just about always improves the perceived s/n ratio. When I first
got my K3 I was a little frustrated because my beloved but outdated MkV
sounded a lot better to my ears, but a simple twist of the RF control put
everything right. I have tried A/B with the K3 versus a few other
receivers, and it is tops as far as I can tell. I think the only rx in its
class is the FTDX5K, but there's probably no discernible performance
difference, just a matter of 35 pounds and 2500 bucks.

I had a P3, which I liked a lot, and now have LP-Pan plus NaP3 for a
bandscope. That combo plus a K3 plus a KPA500 makes for a compact,
multi-talented, elegant ham setup.

73, Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Andrew Faber
Gary,
  This is purely a matter of personal preference.  I've used the K3 (with a 
Heil Pro headset) in 48-hour contests since 2007 and find it a pleasure to 
use for extended periods.  YMMV, but don't assume there is any consensus as 
to which RXs are easiest to listen to.
GL and 73, andy, ae6y p49y

-Original Message- 
From: Tony Estep
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:53 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Gary D Krause n7...@bresnan.net wrote:

 some have reported that the K3 is hard to listen to after a while...

=
Gary, I have found that the best way to quiet the K3 is not via the audio
settings, but by simply backing off the RF gain about 60 - 90 degrees from
max. This just about always improves the perceived s/n ratio. When I first
got my K3 I was a little frustrated because my beloved but outdated MkV
sounded a lot better to my ears, but a simple twist of the RF control put
everything right. I have tried A/B with the K3 versus a few other
receivers, and it is tops as far as I can tell. I think the only rx in its
class is the FTDX5K, but there's probably no discernible performance
difference, just a matter of 35 pounds and 2500 bucks.

I had a P3, which I liked a lot, and now have LP-Pan plus NaP3 for a
bandscope. That combo plus a K3 plus a KPA500 makes for a compact,
multi-talented, elegant ham setup.

73, Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread N4KH
I've owned my K3 since August and have used it for long hours in several
recent contests (November Sweeps and CQWW) and it has performed flawlessly.
Compared to my other rig, an Icom 746pro, I was pleasantly surprised to find
that my operator fatigue was much lower using the K3. Put headphones on,
kick in narrow roofing filter and the Audio Effects (AFX) switch, and go to
town. The AFX feature gives a quasi-stereo effect that opens up the sound
of the band and I like it so much I never turn it off now. I think this is a
great feature of the K3; I don't know if any other high end rigs have it.
With the 400hz roofing filter in line on CW, the band was quiet and often
the only thing I could hear was the other station I was working right on my
frequency. Only when I opened up the bandwidth on the receiver was I
reminded that the band was loaded with other contesters. Don't get me wrong
the 746pro is a good radio and I've owned some other good ones too, but the
K3 is my best/favorite so far.   

Jim, N4KH

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary D Krause
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:27 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

Thanks guys.  Every once in a while, I make a post like this because, I get 
itchy.  I know that there is at least one ham here that has a K3 but, I
can't 
remember who that is.  I'm sure there are more.

One of the things that has concerned me is that some have reported that the
K3 
is hard to listen to after a while because, of high pitched hiss in the 
background.  I'm sure that this can be adjusted with all the audio settings 
that the K3 has, right?  I get the impression that some people don't quite 
understand how to use the settings correctly, get frustrated and give up. 
 Another reason to hear one for myself.  I've also notice that on the videos
I 
have seen that the K2 always seems to be quieter than the K3 or any other
rig. 
 I realize that they may not be using the best audio equipment, etc, but, it

seems to be consistent with most videos I have seen.  Perhaps someone that
has 
both the K3 and the K2 can shed some light on that here?

Thanks,
Gary




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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
I will echo Don's comments.

I did adjust the RX audio equalization to my preference not long after
getting my K3.  I also listen through a set of external speakers most of
the time but even on headphones I have operated for two hours or longer
and my posterior became fatigued first.  Where the 'phones press on my
ears become fatigued next--that's a headphone issue and nothing to do
with the K3.  I find the K3 as pleasing to listen to as any other rig
and the external speakers are likely a key factor in that.

The QSK and VOX are incredibly smooth.  I'd not serisously used VOX in
years until I tried it with the K3.  Admittedly, one must tweak the
settings a bit and work with the noise gate some but after a few
minutes, I have not touched the settings since.  It just works very
nicely.

The K3 is a complex tool.  And like any fine tool it takes some time to
learn it well.  Once learned and configured to one's liking, it is a
scalpel on QRM.  While I was able to use the radio from the start, I
knew I would have to unlearn the old rig while simultaneously
understanding how to best operate the K3.  I did not set a time period
but chose to give myself whatever amount of time was needed to learn it.
After a few weeks I was comfortable and after a couple of months
operating it was becoming intuitive although I still mix up the band and
mode buttons for some reason a year+ later.  H.

73, de Nate N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Randy Farmer
I prefer to use an automotive analogy. To me, the K3 is like an Indy 
car. Right off the hauler it's blindingly fast and extremely capable and 
has more than enough performance for any sane operator (driver). But... 
in the hands of a knowledgeable operator (engineer) it can be tweaked to 
perform significantly better, and it will win more contests (races). If 
you're a competitive type (e.g., contester or hard core DXer) or just 
want to have the best performance possible, time spent fooling around 
with the K3's many settings is time well spent, and will serve you well 
under demanding conditions. If you're not the driven sort, just turn it 
on and operate. It will still handily whip most any of its competitors, 
regardless of price.

73...
Randy, W8FN

 The K3 is a complex tool.  And like any fine tool it takes some time to
 learn it well.  Once learned and configured to one's liking, it is a
 scalpel on QRM.  While I was able to use the radio from the start, I
 knew I would have to unlearn the old rig while simultaneously
 understanding how to best operate the K3.  I did not set a time period
 but chose to give myself whatever amount of time was needed to learn it.
 After a few weeks I was comfortable and after a couple of months
 operating it was becoming intuitive although I still mix up the band and
 mode buttons for some reason a year+ later.  H.
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Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Keith Heimbold

I know what you mean.  I was itching for a new rig and I didn't know it at 
first.  But I knew something was missing.  A couple months ago, I decided to 
upgrade my FT950 with the AC0C NS filter, bought the Yaesu microtuners, and 
bought a NIR-12 DSP unit.  After all these investments I could tell I had a 
better rig but I was still not really that satisfied.  I had an improved FT950 
and now spent close to what a FT2000 costs. I started looking at the FTDX-5000 
and even played around with one at HRO in Burbank a few weeks later.  I thought 
it was a very nice rig but something was missing.  A buddy of mine told me to 
check out the K3. I started my research and then found a person near where I 
work in north Los Angeles country that was selling one (off QTH ads).  I went 
to his house and he gave me a complete demo and went through a discussion of 
how he chose the components in the rig. The modular nature and freedom of 
choice was super cool to me.  Plus he operated it off his iphone
  and he showed me the SDR software and the P3 and I was convinced.  I told him 
the next day that I would buy it from him.  Unfortunately a few days after his 
excited demo and his explanation of how he really liked the rig, he told me 
that he didn't want to sell it afterall.  Bummed out I kept checking the ads on 
QTH and I ended up with even a better more loaded used K3 that had everything 
that I wanted including the 6m preamp and the 2m transverter (the other one did 
not and it was for the same price).  
 
I have been playing with it now over the past two days.  Initial impressions 
are extremely positive.  I have really enjoyed my FT950 over the past ten 
months, but I can clearly tell the difference already. The noise blankers are 
so effective that it blew me away.  My noise on 6m is pretty bad with my 6 
element DK7ZB antenna and I could never put a dent in it on the 950 or the 
NIR-12, but with the K3 I was able to get rid of it so easily it freaked me 
out.  Another thing that I found today was the ability to plot the SWR on all 
my antennas using the K3 EZ software.  That was quite a kick.  I modeled all my 
antennas today. I don't think that the 950 could do that.  At least I could not 
figure out how to do it.  I also bought the Cady manual which is very helpful, 
and have read through the K3 manual. I believe that this is the beginning of a 
beautiful relationship.

Regards,
 
Keith
AG6AZ
 


 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:27:46 -0600
 From: w...@tx.rr.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Itching for a new rig
 
 I prefer to use an automotive analogy. To me, the K3 is like an Indy 
 car. Right off the hauler it's blindingly fast and extremely capable and 
 has more than enough performance for any sane operator (driver). But... 
 in the hands of a knowledgeable operator (engineer) it can be tweaked to 
 perform significantly better, and it will win more contests (races). If 
 you're a competitive type (e.g., contester or hard core DXer) or just 
 want to have the best performance possible, time spent fooling around 
 with the K3's many settings is time well spent, and will serve you well 
 under demanding conditions. If you're not the driven sort, just turn it 
 on and operate. It will still handily whip most any of its competitors, 
 regardless of price.
 
 73...
 Randy, W8FN
 
  The K3 is a complex tool. And like any fine tool it takes some time to
  learn it well. Once learned and configured to one's liking, it is a
  scalpel on QRM. While I was able to use the radio from the start, I
  knew I would have to unlearn the old rig while simultaneously
  understanding how to best operate the K3. I did not set a time period
  but chose to give myself whatever amount of time was needed to learn it.
  After a few weeks I was comfortable and after a couple of months
  operating it was becoming intuitive although I still mix up the band and
  mode buttons for some reason a year+ later. H.
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[Elecraft] Itching for a new rig

2011-11-30 Thread Edward R. Cole
Gary,

Wow a new rig every year!

Lets see:
1957 - new Knight Ocean Hopper $19.95, used Heath DX-35 $35
1966 - used Clegg Interceptor-B, used Johnson Ranger
1967- new Heath SB-110
1976 - new IC-211
1982 - new TS-180S
1996 - new Tentec Scout
1997 - used FT-840
1998 - new FT-847
1999 - new FT-817
2009 - new K3
2012?  new KX3

54-years = 8 new radios - one every seven years.

Gary,  Simply love the K3.  You done your research - now just buy the K3.
(Wayne - just mail me my sales commission ;-))


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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