Re: [Elecraft] K3 - ERR PTT

2011-07-12 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Thanks all. Couple of answers to comments.  ALL connections to the K3 box 
were removed except the power cable. No mic or speakers hooked up either, 
nothing.  I am the builder and of course I felt I was very careful (hi).

I will try shaking it for rattles and also poking on things (power off) to 
see if I can cause a change.  Seems like the transmit would be the mic, comm 
port, paddles, key, something on the main board, or connectors/cables 
between. I guess it will be mostly visible if I remove the second receiver.

The comment about the KIO3 board sounds particularly interesting as that 
might have been affected by powering the P3 down as it appeared at one 
point.

I will try that first and then contact support when it doesn't fix it, hi 
hi.

Thanks everybody es 73, de Jim KG0KP 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - ERR PTT

2011-07-11 Thread Matt Zilmer
As Don suggested, you should email k3support(at)elecraft.com ASAP.
However, you probably want to DO something.  I would look for a screw
length being wrong.  If the K3 has been moved, this may have
re-aligned everything so that some net is grounded to the chassis that
shouldn't be.  An incorrect screw length can cause this.

If the rig hasn't been moved around much, this is a less likely cause
but still may exist and be worth looking for.

The last one of these that I worked on (about a month back) grounded
out the synthesizer, somewhere on the PCBA, that caused it to go
intermittent.  Complete disassembly revealed the problem, but this
also required measuring all the screw lengths.  The ham that did the
building felt foolish, but was also relieved there wasn't any damage.
He went home with all the subassemblies in ESD bags, in a box, and all
the hardware bagged and tagged.  The he spent another fun couple of
days rebuilding the K3 (he actually liked this part).

The K3 is almost impossible to kill.  No worries.  And YES, it could
be a component or subsystem failure, but look for the obvious errors
first.

If you weren't the builder and Elecraft built the K3, the above
scenario is extremely unlikely, but there is always a small
possibility the screw length thing is the problem. 

73,
matt W6NIA
K3 #24


On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:49:52 -0600, you wrote:

>Anybody have any ideas? I took the bottom rear cover off and don't see 
>anything. It looks like it will be a chore to get to it from the top.
>
>Nothing plugged in except the power cable. ERR PTT  anytime it is turned on. 
>One more thing, the last few days, the CW key would NOT work at all, paddle 
>still OK. Tested on another radio and the key and cable are just fine.
>
>Not that it has turned to a solid problem, I see that it was causing my 
>previous intermittent problems as well.  When I turned it on, it would do 
>repeated short transmit "pulses" all just a partial second each and random 
>and not of any significant length to start.  I thought it was being caused 
>my the P3 as it would generally stop when I turned it off. but all was OK 
>after maybe 20 or 30 seconds as it slowed and then quit. I usually turned it 
>to test tx as quickly as I could and started it with the dummy load selected 
>anyway.
>
>Nothing was changed that I can remember and nothing at all had been done 
>recently, not even the recent updates for the past 2? months.  I downloaded 
>the updates and installed them and then a couple of days later, it turned 
>solid but I think the intermittent problems I had been having were actually 
>the same problem and it probably was not being caused by the P3.
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - ERR PTT

2011-07-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Have you emailed k3supp...@elecraft.com?  If not, I would encourage 
you to do so.  They are most capable of giving you some points to test 
in an effort to narrow down the problem and suggest whatever resolution 
may be necessary.

Yes, they are not available until 8AM California time (or Arizona local 
time), but the earlier you get into the email queue, the sooner you can 
obtain an answer - they do have to sort through the emails that came in 
before yours.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/11/2011 1:49 PM, Jim Miller KG0KP wrote:
> Anybody have any ideas? I took the bottom rear cover off and don't see
> anything. It looks like it will be a chore to get to it from the top.
>
> Nothing plugged in except the power cable. ERR PTT  anytime it is turned on.
> One more thing, the last few days, the CW key would NOT work at all, paddle
> still OK. Tested on another radio and the key and cable are just fine.
>
> Not that it has turned to a solid problem, I see that it was causing my
> previous intermittent problems as well.  When I turned it on, it would do
> repeated short transmit "pulses" all just a partial second each and random
> and not of any significant length to start.  I thought it was being caused
> my the P3 as it would generally stop when I turned it off. but all was OK
> after maybe 20 or 30 seconds as it slowed and then quit. I usually turned it
> to test tx as quickly as I could and started it with the dummy load selected
> anyway.
>
> Nothing was changed that I can remember and nothing at all had been done
> recently, not even the recent updates for the past 2? months.  I downloaded
> the updates and installed them and then a couple of days later, it turned
> solid but I think the intermittent problems I had been having were actually
> the same problem and it probably was not being caused by the P3.
>
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[Elecraft] K3 - ERR PTT

2011-07-11 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Anybody have any ideas? I took the bottom rear cover off and don't see 
anything. It looks like it will be a chore to get to it from the top.

Nothing plugged in except the power cable. ERR PTT  anytime it is turned on. 
One more thing, the last few days, the CW key would NOT work at all, paddle 
still OK. Tested on another radio and the key and cable are just fine.

Not that it has turned to a solid problem, I see that it was causing my 
previous intermittent problems as well.  When I turned it on, it would do 
repeated short transmit "pulses" all just a partial second each and random 
and not of any significant length to start.  I thought it was being caused 
my the P3 as it would generally stop when I turned it off. but all was OK 
after maybe 20 or 30 seconds as it slowed and then quit. I usually turned it 
to test tx as quickly as I could and started it with the dummy load selected 
anyway.

Nothing was changed that I can remember and nothing at all had been done 
recently, not even the recent updates for the past 2? months.  I downloaded 
the updates and installed them and then a couple of days later, it turned 
solid but I think the intermittent problems I had been having were actually 
the same problem and it probably was not being caused by the P3.



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3]Err Ptt

2010-08-31 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hi Holger,

Try another better connector.

I had this problem with a cheap one and try another one and all was OK

73,
Jorge
CX6VM

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Holger Meinecke
Enviado el: Martes, 31 de Agosto de 2010 04:21 p.m.
Para: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Asunto: [Elecraft] [K3]Err Ptt

Hi elecrafters,

i have the following problem with k3 2121:

I'm using external ptt-in (backside of the K3).
At first rarely in qso the trx didn't go back to rx-mode after sending.
Usually a blind grip at the backside of the k3 into the cableing or an 
on /off cycle solved the problem (just moving at the ptt-cable or 
connector).
Right now it starts with err-ptt ( without any cableing but 12v ;O) ).
Resistance between ptt and ground is 25 ohms.

Someone had this problem (solved?) before?
I really don't trust this cinch-stuff

Any hints for further investigation ?

Regards from northern germany,
Holger DL6ABM



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[Elecraft] [K3]Err Ptt

2010-08-31 Thread Holger Meinecke
Hi elecrafters,

i have the following problem with k3 2121:

I'm using external ptt-in (backside of the K3).
At first rarely in qso the trx didn't go back to rx-mode after sending.
Usually a blind grip at the backside of the k3 into the cableing or an 
on /off cycle solved the problem (just moving at the ptt-cable or 
connector).
Right now it starts with err-ptt ( without any cableing but 12v ;O) ).
Resistance between ptt and ground is 25 ohms.

Someone had this problem (solved?) before?
I really don't trust this cinch-stuff

Any hints for further investigation ?

Regards from northern germany,
Holger DL6ABM



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