Re: [Elecraft] K3 Centurion Amp

2014-01-31 Thread Ignacy
I used Centurion with K3 for a few years. Connected directly to BK, not Key
in/out. No problem that I could sense.

Now I use Expert 2k-fa. Now I have a real problem as the relays are
bouncing. 

Ignacy, NO9E




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[Elecraft] K3 Centurion Amp

2014-01-29 Thread Michael Marx
Hi All,

I have a K3 which I had been using with a little Emtron 800 w amp.   It works 
fine and the QSK is just great.  It keys in a conventional way by connecting a 
cable between the PTT jack on the K3 and the PTT jack on the Emtron amp.  I can 
use the K3's keyed (which I do) or an external keyer attached to the K3.

The other day I decided to try the K3 with my Ten Tec Centurion amp.  The way 
it is keyed is kind of different.  You run the line from your keyer to the AMP 
KEY IN jack and then the KEY OUT on the amp goes to the K3's straight key jack. 
 This is the way they accomplish the time sequencing of the relays so there is 
no hot switching.  This works and for the most part works well but is not quite 
as satisfactory as the Emtron.  The QSK is a bit laggy and every so often there 
is a loud popping noise in the audio while I am sending.  This happens mostly 
around 30 WPM.  Slower speeds do not cause the popping quite so much.   I run 
the AGC in the FAST position.

I am wondering if I can change the AGC settings in the CONFIG menu to help this 
problem?   There are so many of them, I'm unsure of which AGC setting to try 
changing.  So, could someone who is smarter and more savvy than I am recommend 
what to do about this?   I know that CW QRQ setting might help, but since you 
cannot use it in SPLIT mode, it is of little use while DX'ing.

I will go back to the Emtron if I have to, but it has a very noisy blower and 
puts out about 300 to 400 watts less than the Centurion, so I'd rather use the 
Centurion if I can make it play better.

Thanks in a advance for any enlightenment anyone can give me

73
Mike WB0SND


Michael Marx
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Centurion Amp

2014-01-29 Thread Jim Brown

On 1/29/2014 7:38 PM, Michael Marx wrote:

Thanks in a advance for any enlightenment anyone can give me


I've never seen a Centurion up close, but I own three Titan 425s and a 
Herc II, all of which I've used with the K3 (also K2, FT1000MP, and 
TS850). All combinations work fine, and I've done the hookup like you 
have, but it means that you can't use the rig's internal keyer.


So, I tried the standard hookup rather than Ten Tec's -- Key Out of the 
K3 drives PTT of the amp. This works fine, because all of these rigs 
have a delay in the range of 8 msec from when the Key Out signal keys 
the amp before RF is sent. This gives the T/R relay in the amp plenty of 
time to pull in, so no problem. There's a limit, though, on sending 
speed at which CW starts to get choppy, as those 8 msec delays are 
subtracted from each dit and dah.


In my contesting experience, I start getting complaints at about 28 WPM, 
and I like to contest faster than that. The other factor is that more 
than once, I've had to stop in the middle of a contest because the 
vacuum relay in the amp was wearing out from too many cycles from QSK 
contesting. So -- I now do all of my high power contesting without QSK.  
Not ideal, and I really appreciate being able to run full QSK with the 
KPA500.


73, Jim K9YC


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