Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying and NR No Effect Here

2008-08-15 Thread GW0ETF


Don Ehrlich wrote:
 
 I just keyed my K3 with and without NR (all settings) while looking at the 
 keying waveform.  I used both the internal keyer and an external computer 
 interface for keying and could not see any effect on the 5 mS rise and
 fall 
 times related to NR settings or with NR on or off.
 
 Don K7FJ
 K3 #195  latest Beta
 
 

I just did the same as Don and like him found absolutely no difference to
the waveform on the scope with or without NR at all settings, internal or
external keying.

I could however get the keying to totally loose it by switching in the NR
while actually sending - most but not every time it would change to a sort
of high frequency, highly overdriven chopped AM sine wave; not something
that could be mistaken for cw keying, hard or not. Pressing buttons like NR
while actually sending is presumably not in the script and would I assume
come under the title of 'unpredictable'.

Running the latest betaware, dsp tables etc and also the 5ms keying hardware
mod.

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (K3 145)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying and NR No Effect Here

2008-08-15 Thread Chris Page
Thanks Stewart.

I loaded the latest firmware this morning (I was using 2.20) but 
before I did that, I tried monitoring my transmitted signal on 
another receiver, on the same 80m frequency that I did the test with 
my UK friend yesterday morning.  I cannot tell any difference to the 
keying between having the NR switched in and switched out.

After loading 2.23, my signal sounded exactly the same on my other  
receiver and a report from a European station on 20m said the keying 
was perfect and there was no sign of any clicks.

I now intend leaving well alone and am putting the experience down to 
one of the mysteries of life!

73 de Chris, G4BUE

On 15 Aug 2008 at 2:04, GW0ETF wrote:

 
 
 Don Ehrlich wrote:
  
  I just keyed my K3 with and without NR (all settings) while
 looking at the 
  keying waveform.  I used both the internal keyer and an external
 computer 
  interface for keying and could not see any effect on the 5 mS rise
 and
  fall 
  times related to NR settings or with NR on or off.
  
  Don K7FJ
  K3 #195  latest Beta
  
  
 
 I just did the same as Don and like him found absolutely no
 difference to
 the waveform on the scope with or without NR at all settings,
 internal or
 external keying.
 
 I could however get the keying to totally loose it by switching in
 the NR
 while actually sending - most but not every time it would change to
 a sort
 of high frequency, highly overdriven chopped AM sine wave; not
 something
 that could be mistaken for cw keying, hard or not. Pressing buttons
 like NR
 while actually sending is presumably not in the script and would I
 assume
 come under the title of 'unpredictable'.
 
 Running the latest betaware, dsp tables etc and also the 5ms keying
 hardware
 mod.
 
 Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (K3 145)
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 http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Keying-and-NR-tp724692p725906.html
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[Elecraft] K3 Keying and NR No Effect Here

2008-08-14 Thread Don Ehrlich
I just keyed my K3 with and without NR (all settings) while looking at the 
keying waveform.  I used both the internal keyer and an external computer 
interface for keying and could not see any effect on the 5 mS rise and fall 
times related to NR settings or with NR on or off.


Don K7FJ
K3 #195  latest Beta


Whilst in QSO with a European station recently, he asked if I was
using a K3.  I told him that I was and asked why he was asking.  He
said he thought I was using a K3 as he recognised the hard keying,
having heard it on some other K3s.  I was using the NR option at the
time.

This was the first critical report on the hard keying of my K3 that I
have received since I started using it in May.  I only operate CW and
have made well over 4500 QSOs with it so far, but have only recently
started using the NR option.

I believe I read something about this on the Reflector recently but a
search of the archives does not reveal anything - perhaps it was on
the K3 Reflector?

I carried out some tests this morning on 80 metres with a good friend
(a K2 owner) and someone who I can rely on to give me honest reports.
I didn't tell him what I was doing, but asked him to comment on the
hardness of my keying in position 1 and position 2.  Position 1 was
without NR and position 2 was with it.  He said the keying was
noticeable harder in position 2.

I am not a technical person, hence my question as to whether using
the NR option can effect the hardness of the keying?  If it can, is
it fixable, please?

Thanks and 73 de Chris, G4BUE


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