Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids
On 11/17/2014 3:36 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I've wondered if there's a way to feed audio directly into them from the K3. I haven't found one yet, and I don't know if it would be better than the headphones. I use a Phonak accessory called ComPilot that works with my Phonak hearing devices. It hangs around the neck - the loop is the antenna - to Bluetooth connect to my cell phone on my belt. It also has a 3.5 mm stereo jack that can bring audio directly to the hearing devices, again by Bluetooth. I'm sure that there are similar accessories for other brands of hearing devices. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids
I have been using the ComPilot for about 5-years. What a godsend. Never use the headphones at all except when I have to operate ssb, because my mic is on the headphones! ;-) You can also use them on TV's, stereos, even on your PC, among many other devices. 73 Dwight NS9I On 11/18/2014 12:02 PM, Phil Kane wrote: On 11/17/2014 3:36 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I've wondered if there's a way to feed audio directly into them from the K3. I haven't found one yet, and I don't know if it would be better than the headphones. I use a Phonak accessory called ComPilot that works with my Phonak hearing devices. It hangs around the neck - the loop is the antenna - to Bluetooth connect to my cell phone on my belt. It also has a 3.5 mm stereo jack that can bring audio directly to the hearing devices, again by Bluetooth. I'm sure that there are similar accessories for other brands of hearing devices. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ns9i2...@bayland.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids
One thing. The ComPilot manual includes: Persons using medical devices such as pacemakers are not permitted to use this device. Perhaps they're overly conservative, but worth a discussion with cardiologist first. Likely is conservative. I've had a pacemaker for 7 years and my KPA500 at full power seems to have no effect on it -- nor on my Phonak hearing aid. Using a 5 W HT also has no effect. Phil W7OX On 11/18/14 12:24 PM, DGB wrote: I have been using the ComPilot for about 5-years. What a godsend. Never use the headphones at all except when I have to operate ssb, because my mic is on the headphones! ;-) You can also use them on TV's, stereos, even on your PC, among many other devices. 73 Dwight NS9I On 11/18/2014 12:02 PM, Phil Kane wrote: On 11/17/2014 3:36 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I've wondered if there's a way to feed audio directly into them from the K3. I haven't found one yet, and I don't know if it would be better than the headphones. I use a Phonak accessory called ComPilot that works with my Phonak hearing devices. It hangs around the neck - the loop is the antenna - to Bluetooth connect to my cell phone on my belt. It also has a 3.5 mm stereo jack that can bring audio directly to the hearing devices, again by Bluetooth. I'm sure that there are similar accessories for other brands of hearing devices. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids
On 11/17/2014 1:01 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: I added a hearing aid to my only functional ear a week ago and found not only improved volume but improved freq response (in retrospect, not a surprise!). Now folks with high, squeaky voices are much more intelligible than they were before. Very important topic for those of us with compromised hearing. Both my ears still work, but the bulk of my hearing disappeared in one event one night many years ago. I hear almost nothing above about 1200 Hz where both ears are about 85 dB down, without the $6,000 worth of microelectronics stuffed into my ears [fortunately, the government pays for mine :-)]. My new ones can identify music, conversation, noise, fire truck sirens, and CW, and adjust accordingly. They even talk to each other so they change programs together. The downside is using headphones: I've preferred an Apple ear bud and have quite a collection. So I'm experimenting with new headphones vs. removing the hearing aid. I tried one over the ear type, well reviewed, that resulted in a sequence of chimes in the hearing aid -- not a good sign. Mine do not work under my headphones [Heil Pro-Set I got from Elecraft], they just shut down. I run the AF Gain at about 1 o'clock on CW [don't operate much SSB, too hard to understand] which is right at the beginning of distortion in the cans. I don't know if it's coming from the K3 audio amp, or the headphones are being overdriven. My CW sidetone is at 570 Hz, and I use a mark of 915 Hz on RTTY, both of which I can hear if they're loud enough. Since the hearing aids communicate with each other [if I manually turn one up or down, the other does it too ... some bluetooth-ish thing I suppose], I've wondered if there's a way to feed audio directly into them from the K3. I haven't found one yet, and I don't know if it would be better than the headphones. If the audio distortion is coming from the AF amp in the K3, an outboard amp might allow me to get higher sound levels in the headphones. If it's coming from overdriving the headphones, maybe I need a better headset/mic? If anyone has any experience driving digital hearing aids directly, I'd like to discuss it with you. My aids are Phonak Savia's. SS SSB and NAQP SSB are the only phone contests I play in, and only then to create some points for my club. Last weekend's SS SSB was a real slog for me. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids
Hi, guys. I wear hearing aids in both ears. I found a device that allows me to use my hearing aids as headphones. My hearing aids are made by Widex. Wide offers a small accessory device called the MDEX, which communicates by radio waves (not Bluetooth) with the two hearing aids. The MDEX communicates by Bluetooth with cell phones and any other devices that have Bluetooth audio capability. The MDEX (which is about half the size of a pack of cigarettes) can also be connected directly to the K3 with a mini-stereo cable. In that mode, the K3 audio goes directly to my hearing aids. I can shut off room noise if I wish, or leave it to be piped into my ears along with the radio audio. More info is available at http://www.widex.com/en/products/accessories/dex/mdex/ about the MDEX device. Warning: this is not a low-budget solution to the headset problem. The hearing aids are $3K each, and the MDEX costs about $400. But it works well when I want to use the hearing aids as a headset, either for ham radio or music listening purposes. 73, Lew Lew Phelps N6LEW Pasadena, CA DM04wd Elecraft K3-10 Yaesu FT-7800 l...@n6lew.us www.n6lew.us “The plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data.’” __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids
Fred, ReSound sells hearing aids that work with their own Mini-Mic. The Mini-Mic pairs with the hearing aids and plugs into any headphone output (I needed an adapter for the small Mini-Mic plug and the big phone plug on the K3). 73, Jan, KX2A On 11/17/2014 6:36 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: On 11/17/2014 1:01 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: I added a hearing aid to my only functional ear a week ago and found not only improved volume but improved freq response (in retrospect, not a surprise!). Now folks with high, squeaky voices are much more intelligible than they were before. Very important topic for those of us with compromised hearing. Both my ears still work, but the bulk of my hearing disappeared in one event one night many years ago. I hear almost nothing above about 1200 Hz where both ears are about 85 dB down, without the $6,000 worth of microelectronics stuffed into my ears [fortunately, the government pays for mine :-)]. My new ones can identify music, conversation, noise, fire truck sirens, and CW, and adjust accordingly. They even talk to each other so they change programs together. The downside is using headphones: I've preferred an Apple ear bud and have quite a collection. So I'm experimenting with new headphones vs. removing the hearing aid. I tried one over the ear type, well reviewed, that resulted in a sequence of chimes in the hearing aid -- not a good sign. Mine do not work under my headphones [Heil Pro-Set I got from Elecraft], they just shut down. I run the AF Gain at about 1 o'clock on CW [don't operate much SSB, too hard to understand] which is right at the beginning of distortion in the cans. I don't know if it's coming from the K3 audio amp, or the headphones are being overdriven. My CW sidetone is at 570 Hz, and I use a mark of 915 Hz on RTTY, both of which I can hear if they're loud enough. Since the hearing aids communicate with each other [if I manually turn one up or down, the other does it too ... some bluetooth-ish thing I suppose], I've wondered if there's a way to feed audio directly into them from the K3. I haven't found one yet, and I don't know if it would be better than the headphones. If the audio distortion is coming from the AF amp in the K3, an outboard amp might allow me to get higher sound levels in the headphones. If it's coming from overdriving the headphones, maybe I need a better headset/mic? If anyone has any experience driving digital hearing aids directly, I'd like to discuss it with you. My aids are Phonak Savia's. SS SSB and NAQP SSB are the only phone contests I play in, and only then to create some points for my club. Last weekend's SS SSB was a real slog for me. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ditz...@windstream.net - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4213/8588 - Release Date: 11/17/14 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and hearing aids
Just about every hearing aid maker has something like this. It's not unique to Widex, or Oticon, or any other make. On 11/17/2014 6:47 PM, Lewis Phelps wrote: Hi, guys. I wear hearing aids in both ears. I found a device that allows me to use my hearing aids as headphones. My hearing aids are made by Widex. Wide offers a small accessory device called the MDEX, which communicates by radio waves (not Bluetooth) with the two hearing aids. The MDEX communicates by Bluetooth with cell phones and any other devices that have Bluetooth audio capability. The MDEX (which is about half the size of a pack of cigarettes) can also be connected directly to the K3 with a mini-stereo cable. In that mode, the K3 audio goes directly to my hearing aids. I can shut off room noise if I wish, or leave it to be piped into my ears along with the radio audio. More info is available at http://www.widex.com/en/products/accessories/dex/mdex/ about the MDEX device. Warning: this is not a low-budget solution to the headset problem. The hearing aids are $3K each, and the MDEX costs about $400. But it works well when I want to use the hearing aids as a headset, either for ham radio or music listening purposes. 73, Lew Lew Phelps N6LEW Pasadena, CA DM04wd Elecraft K3-10 Yaesu FT-7800 l...@n6lew.us www.n6lew.us “The plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data.’” __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
