Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-15 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:53:57 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote:

>DHL uses do a good job, but others will just leave a parcel 
>most anywhere from the mailbox at the end of the driveway to the 
>house!  

That's the bad one (and their predecssor, Airborne). 

Jim



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Brett Howard
When I called UPS they actually told me that a signature would be
required and thankfully my wife offered to work from home and sign for
it being that I had to be in the office that day...  Working on
schematic entry from home is a pain!

On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 05:58 -0700, KB1PXD wrote:
> My wife just contacted UPS and they stated that no signature
> would be required.  I guess if you lived in an apartment or something,
> the wouldn't leave the package without signature.  
> 
> - Bill
> 
> 
> 
> KB1PXD wrote:
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
> > signature?  
> > 
> > - Bill
> > 
> 

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> Funny that you mention that - we have a 1/4 mile driveway, and 
> some vendors that DHL uses do a good job, but others will just 
> leave a parcel most anywhere from the mailbox at the end of the 
> driveway to the house!  

ItÂ’s completely uneven ... I had that same problem with UPS.  Their 
drive kept leaving things in the bushes behind the mailbox rather 
than drive back a narrow 250' driveway.  I had several packages 
lost or damaged that way before that driver was let go.  

However, that is one reason I will not willingly accept UPS if there
is any alternative. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 1:54 PM
> To: Jim Brown
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Funny that you mention that - we have a 1/4 mile driveway, and some 
> vendors that DHL uses do a good job, but others will just 
> leave a parcel 
> most anywhere from the mailbox at the end of the driveway to 
> the house!  
> So far, I have found them all, but there could come a time 
> when I might 
> miss one.  Once a parcel was left at the closest house into the 
> sub-division (we are the last one on the road) and reported 
> it as having 
> been delivered.
> 
> NO Problems at all with UPS, the driver has been on the route 
> for a long 
> time, is cordial and professional and will even leave parcels 
> in a safe, 
> dry place when it is raining and put a note on the door.  
> That is very 
> good service.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> Jim Brown wrote:
> >
> > By contrast, I had MAJOR issues with another shipper (not 
> FedEx) who 
> > some
> > vendors used because they were cheap, and who would leave packages 
> > anywhere between the lawn and the porch. 
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jim K9YC
> >
> >   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread NZ0T

I'm lucky in that we own the hardware store in our small (4K) town and the
UPS guy will leave an expensive package there if I'm not home.  The XYL runs
the store and is usually there when he delivers.  I'm in sales and office at
home so I may be there or halfway across the state.  That said I am planning
on arranging my scheduls so I have an office day when my K3 is delivered ;)

Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
signature?  

- Bil
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

Funny that you mention that - we have a 1/4 mile driveway, and some 
vendors that DHL uses do a good job, but others will just leave a parcel 
most anywhere from the mailbox at the end of the driveway to the house!  
So far, I have found them all, but there could come a time when I might 
miss one.  Once a parcel was left at the closest house into the 
sub-division (we are the last one on the road) and reported it as having 
been delivered.


NO Problems at all with UPS, the driver has been on the route for a long 
time, is cordial and professional and will even leave parcels in a safe, 
dry place when it is raining and put a note on the door.  That is very 
good service.


73,
Don W3FPR

Jim Brown wrote:


By contrast, I had MAJOR issues with another shipper (not FedEx) who some 
vendors used because they were cheap, and who would leave packages 
anywhere between the lawn and the porch. 


73,

Jim K9YC

  

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:55:47 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

>However, our UPS driver is happy to put parcels in specified locations, 
>such as on a back porch, if asked 

I've lived and worked a bunch of places, both big cities and now out in 
the country. My universal experience with UPS has been that their drivers 
1) are assigned to routes for long enough periods that they know their 
customers; and 2) they are VERY accommodating and sensitive to the 
needs/desires of their customers; 3) are well hired (that is, good people, 
good attitude). 

At my house in Chicago, I wanted nothing left on my porch, but was happy 
to have neighbors accept them (and do the same for my neighbors). I had 
also had an issue with fraud, with someone ordering stuff in my name. UPS 
was very responsive to my needs. In the businesses where I worked, UPS 
drivers came in the door straight to the shipping area/department, did 
their business, and left with no disruption to other things going on. 
Indeed, we always felt comfortable with their presence and activity. 

By contrast, I had MAJOR issues with another shipper (not FedEx) who some 
vendors used because they were cheap, and who would leave packages 
anywhere between the lawn and the porch. 

73,

Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Matt Patterson
You're right..  It doesn't have anything to do with the operation of a 
K3 but it does have everything to do with receiving your K3 from 
Elecraft and if you will be required to be there to accept delivery of 
the package.  Some of us still work and don't have the luxury of being 
retired and home all day waiting for UPS to show up.  I see people 
posting stuff to this forum all the time that doesn't have anything to 
do with the operation of a K3 and nothing every gets said about that 
stuff. 


W5LL

Stan King wrote:


What does any of this thread have to do with the operation of a K3 -- 
Let's put this one to bed people. If you have a gripe or policy 
question about Elecraft shipping take it where it belongs - the 
telephone number is 831-662-8345.


W4KR

- Original Message - From: "Matt Patterson" 
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Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:28 AM
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I learned my lesson with this.  I sold a TS-2000 and had it shipped 
and insured via UPS.  UPS delivers it and the guy isn't there so they 
leave it on the front porch.  His house just so happens to be 
adjacent to a city bus stop!  He gets home to find that the package 
is no longer on his front porch like the tracking information online 
says.  UPS calls the driver and they confirm it was left on the 
porch.  I refund the money that I was paid for the stolen radio and 4 
months later I finally get UPS to cut a check for the insurance.  All 
of this could have been prevented by requiring a signature which I 
will do from now on.  On high priced items it makes sense for the 
shipper to require a signature.


73 Matt
W5LL

Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bill,

Only if you ask that it be required.
With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't 
understand why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery 
- especially for delivery to a residence since there is always a 
chance that no one would be home when the UPS man arrives.   Take my 
situation as an example - the UPS man usually arrives around 12:30.  
If the XYL and I have chosen to go out for lunch that day, I would 
miss the delivery and it would be delayed until the next day.  Yes, 
we receive frequent UPS shipments, maybe an average of 3 per week.


73,
Don W3FPR

KB1PXD wrote:

Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
signature? - Bill


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Ken Kopp

Here in the outback of Montana UPS routinely leaves
packages on doorsteps ... or opens the door and sets
it inside.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Don W3FPR wrote:

With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't 
understand why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery - 
especially for delivery to a residence since there is always a chance 
that no one would be home when the UPS man arrives. 

--

I, too, live in a place where it's not likely anything would be stolen.
However, our UPS driver is happy to put parcels in specified locations, such
as on a back porch, if asked (and there are no man-eating dogs or bears
around ;-) Our driver volunteered to do that, but I told him to keep it
simple. In this neighborhood kids sometimes leave bicycles sitting on the
roadside (no sidewalks) overnight without a second thought. 

Like all personal services, the service one gets varies according to the
individual providing it. Because I get packages very frequently, I've always
found it beneficial to get to know the delivery people and the postal
carrier and ask them what works best for them. A little consideration, even
just asking when there's nothing that needs be done differently, makes a
huge difference. It's right up there with a heartfelt "thank you" when we do
meet face to face, or a friendly wave when the truck passes by on the road. 

Ron AC7AC 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Jim's mail
My thoughts, for something the price of the K1, KX1, or basic K2 shipment 
without signature on delivery can be acceptable.  For anything more valuable 
than a fully equipped K2, if ordered at the same time and shipped as one 
package, then a signature could protect both the buyer and the seller.  The 
buyer, the customer, would have to show that the item was (or was not) 
delivered and the lack of delivery receipt could help.  For the seller, a 
signed delivery receipt could prove that someone at the intended address did 
receive the item ordered.  Perhaps for something as valuable as the K3 a 
signature on delivery with proof of identity (DL or government ID 
preferred).


One company that I have ordered from in the past, not really radio related 
but another hobby, has a policy that if the total price of the order is over 
$200.00 USD then a signature will be required on delivery.  This company 
normally uses USPS for domestic orders and can allow the customer to decide 
which carrier to use for foreign orders.


Again, just thoughts.
Jim  KD5VXH

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Bill,

Only if you ask that it be required.
With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't understand 
why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery - especially for 
delivery to a residence since there is always a chance that no one would 
be home when the UPS man arrives.   Take my situation as an example - the 
UPS man usually arrives around 12:30.  If the XYL and I have chosen to go 
out for lunch that day, I would miss the delivery and it would be delayed 
until the next day.  Yes, we receive frequent UPS shipments, maybe an 
average of 3 per week.


73,
Don W3FPR

KB1PXD wrote:

Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
signature?
- Bill


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Matt Patterson
I learned my lesson with this.  I sold a TS-2000 and had it shipped and 
insured via UPS.  UPS delivers it and the guy isn't there so they leave 
it on the front porch.  His house just so happens to be adjacent to a 
city bus stop!  He gets home to find that the package is no longer on 
his front porch like the tracking information online says.  UPS calls 
the driver and they confirm it was left on the porch.  I refund the 
money that I was paid for the stolen radio and 4 months later I finally 
get UPS to cut a check for the insurance.  All of this could have been 
prevented by requiring a signature which I will do from now on.  On high 
priced items it makes sense for the shipper to require a signature.


73 Matt
W5LL

Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bill,

Only if you ask that it be required.
With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't 
understand why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery - 
especially for delivery to a residence since there is always a chance 
that no one would be home when the UPS man arrives.   Take my 
situation as an example - the UPS man usually arrives around 12:30.  
If the XYL and I have chosen to go out for lunch that day, I would 
miss the delivery and it would be delayed until the next day.  Yes, we 
receive frequent UPS shipments, maybe an average of 3 per week.


73,
Don W3FPR

KB1PXD wrote:

Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
signature? 
- Bill
  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Jon K Hellan

KB1PXD wrote:

My wife just contacted UPS and they stated that no signature
would be required.  I guess if you lived in an apartment or something,
the wouldn't leave the package without signature.  


Doesn't that mean 2-3k $ worth left unguarded on your doorstep?

And Elecraft refused to send mine by mail, since it couldn't be insured. (UPS 
is quite exotic around here and strictly oriented to businesses. Mail is much 
more convenient.) Must be a reason for that. Looks like unfaithful insiders in 
U.S. Mail must be a much larger problem than passers by stealing from people's 
doorsteps.


73
LA4RT Jon
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread KB1PXD

My wife just contacted UPS and they stated that no signature
would be required.  I guess if you lived in an apartment or something,
the wouldn't leave the package without signature.  

- Bill



KB1PXD wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
> signature?  
> 
> - Bill
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

Only if you ask that it be required.
With the good tracking tools available with UPS, I really don't 
understand why anyone would want to require a signature on delivery - 
especially for delivery to a residence since there is always a chance 
that no one would be home when the UPS man arrives.   Take my situation 
as an example - the UPS man usually arrives around 12:30.  If the XYL 
and I have chosen to go out for lunch that day, I would miss the 
delivery and it would be delayed until the next day.  Yes, we receive 
frequent UPS shipments, maybe an average of 3 per week.


73,
Don W3FPR

KB1PXD wrote:

Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
signature?  


- Bill
  

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[Elecraft] K3 delivery require signature?

2008-07-14 Thread KB1PXD

Can anyone tell me if the K3 shipment via UPS requires
signature?  

- Bill
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