Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
My K3 is exposed to trade winds and salt air for as long as I have owned it, about 4 years now, had to put in the SS kit, but other than the exterior screws rusting nothing else shows any signs of corrosion, much better than any other gear I have here in the salt air. Merv K9FD/KH6 All,While on a mini dx-pedition, most of the original exterior screws in my K3 developed rust after operating near salt water for 10 days. I have ordered the stainless steel screws to replace the original exterior K3 chassis screws. 1) Should I be concerned about rust developing inside my K3?2)Over the next several years, I plan to operate near salt water for extended periods and want to make sure I'm am not going to damage my K3. Is there anything I can, or could have done differently to prevent the rust from developing? -rob N7QT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
My IPad inserted dabble in place of debateboth words work to end this thread. On Dec 27, 2012, at 19:37, W4GRJ wrote: > > I gave this information for edification purposes...not a dabble. > > THIS THREAD IS CLOSED. > > Jack > W4GRJ > > > On Dec 27, 2012, at 19:11, tnny...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>>>> Bottom line, corrosion x will not hurt a thing. <<< >> >> SIGH >> Not hurt a thing! Except your WARRANTY! >> >> (((73))) Milverton. >> >> From: W4GRJ >> To: Ken G Kopp >> Cc: Elecraft ; "e...@elecraft.com" >> >> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water >> >> No debate here however, It is all a matter of degree of exposure... Bottom >> line, corrosion x will not hurt a thing. >> >> Jack >> W4GRJ >> >> >> On Dec 27, 2012, at 18:17, Ken G Kopp wrote: >> >>> Eric beat me to posting on this subject. >>> >>> FWIW, with five years as a R/O / ET on NOAA ocean-going vessels, >>> I agree with Eric. >>> >>> 73! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft >>> wrote: >>>> We do not recommend spraying corrosion-x inside the K3. That will void the >>>> warranty. Corrosion X is basically an oil based preservative, which will >>>> make a mess of the inside of the radio and also make it difficult to repair >>>> when needed. >>>> >>>> In general, we have not seen serious interior corrosion on K3s in normal >>>> marine and tropical use where normal precautions are taken (keep the radio >>>> dry etc..) In those cases where the exterior screws did rust, the interior >>>> connectors etc. were free from corrosion. The exterior stainless screw kit >>>> for the K3 is the proper solution for this environment. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> --- >>>> www.elecraft.com >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
I gave this information for edification purposes...not a dabble. THIS THREAD IS CLOSED. Jack W4GRJ On Dec 27, 2012, at 19:11, tnny...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>> Bottom line, corrosion x will not hurt a thing. <<< > > SIGH > Not hurt a thing! Except your WARRANTY! > > (((73))) Milverton. > > From: W4GRJ > To: Ken G Kopp > Cc: Elecraft ; "e...@elecraft.com" > > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water > > No debate here however, It is all a matter of degree of exposure... Bottom > line, corrosion x will not hurt a thing. > > Jack > W4GRJ > > > On Dec 27, 2012, at 18:17, Ken G Kopp wrote: > > > Eric beat me to posting on this subject. > > > > FWIW, with five years as a R/O / ET on NOAA ocean-going vessels, > > I agree with Eric. > > > > 73! > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft > > wrote: > >> We do not recommend spraying corrosion-x inside the K3. That will void the > >> warranty. Corrosion X is basically an oil based preservative, which will > >> make a mess of the inside of the radio and also make it difficult to repair > >> when needed. > >> > >> In general, we have not seen serious interior corrosion on K3s in normal > >> marine and tropical use where normal precautions are taken (keep the radio > >> dry etc..) In those cases where the exterior screws did rust, the interior > >> connectors etc. were free from corrosion. The exterior stainless screw kit > >> for the K3 is the proper solution for this environment. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Eric > >> --- > >> www.elecraft.com > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
>>> Bottom line, corrosion x will not hurt a thing. <<< SIGH Not hurt a thing! Except your WARRANTY! (((73))) Milverton. > > From: W4GRJ >To: Ken G Kopp >Cc: Elecraft ; "e...@elecraft.com" > >Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:58 PM >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water > >No debate here however, It is all a matter of degree of exposure... Bottom >line, corrosion x will not hurt a thing. > >Jack >W4GRJ > > >On Dec 27, 2012, at 18:17, Ken G Kopp wrote: > >> Eric beat me to posting on this subject. >> >> FWIW, with five years as a R/O / ET on NOAA ocean-going vessels, >> I agree with Eric. >> >> 73! >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft >> wrote: >>> We do not recommend spraying corrosion-x inside the K3. That will void the >>> warranty. Corrosion X is basically an oil based preservative, which will >>> make a mess of the inside of the radio and also make it difficult to repair >>> when needed. >>> >>> In general, we have not seen serious interior corrosion on K3s in normal >>> marine and tropical use where normal precautions are taken (keep the radio >>> dry etc..) In those cases where the exterior screws did rust, the interior >>> connectors etc. were free from corrosion. The exterior stainless screw kit >>> for the K3 is the proper solution for this environment. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Eric >>> --- >>> www.elecraft.com >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
No debate here however, It is all a matter of degree of exposure... Bottom line, corrosion x will not hurt a thing. Jack W4GRJ On Dec 27, 2012, at 18:17, Ken G Kopp wrote: > Eric beat me to posting on this subject. > > FWIW, with five years as a R/O / ET on NOAA ocean-going vessels, > I agree with Eric. > > 73! > > > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft > wrote: >> We do not recommend spraying corrosion-x inside the K3. That will void the >> warranty. Corrosion X is basically an oil based preservative, which will >> make a mess of the inside of the radio and also make it difficult to repair >> when needed. >> >> In general, we have not seen serious interior corrosion on K3s in normal >> marine and tropical use where normal precautions are taken (keep the radio >> dry etc..) In those cases where the exterior screws did rust, the interior >> connectors etc. were free from corrosion. The exterior stainless screw kit >> for the K3 is the proper solution for this environment. >> >> 73, >> >> Eric >> --- >> www.elecraft.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
Whilst not necessarily the same as your salty operation, the house I live in is 40 metres back from the harbour side. We regularly have high winds and get salt spray/mist on the windows. My K3 #345 has so far not been used outside the house and shows no sign of corrosion to the apparently susceptible exterior screws. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 27/12/2012 19:01, Robert Fanfant wrote: All,While on a mini dx-pedition, most of the original exterior screws in my K3 developed rust after operating near salt water for 10 days. I have ordered the stainless steel screws to replace the original exterior K3 chassis screws. 1) Should I be concerned about rust developing inside my K3?2)Over the next several years, I plan to operate near salt water for extended periods and want to make sure I'm am not going to damage my K3. Is there anything I can, or could have done differently to prevent the rust from developing? -rob N7QT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
Eric beat me to posting on this subject. FWIW, with five years as a R/O / ET on NOAA ocean-going vessels, I agree with Eric. 73! On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > We do not recommend spraying corrosion-x inside the K3. That will void the > warranty. Corrosion X is basically an oil based preservative, which will > make a mess of the inside of the radio and also make it difficult to repair > when needed. > > In general, we have not seen serious interior corrosion on K3s in normal > marine and tropical use where normal precautions are taken (keep the radio > dry etc..) In those cases where the exterior screws did rust, the interior > connectors etc. were free from corrosion. The exterior stainless screw kit > for the K3 is the proper solution for this environment. > > 73, > > Eric > --- > www.elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
I can add to that, although my experience is mainly with the K1 and K2. I have repaired many K2s that were operated near a salt water environment (yes even one on a sailboat). While the exterior showed signs of this exposure, the boards and other components inside remained pristine and free from signs of corrosion. 73, Don W3FPR . On 12/27/2012 6:08 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: We do not recommend spraying corrosion-x inside the K3. That will void the warranty. Corrosion X is basically an oil based preservative, which will make a mess of the inside of the radio and also make it difficult to repair when needed. In general, we have not seen serious interior corrosion on K3s in normal marine and tropical use where normal precautions are taken (keep the radio dry etc..) In those cases where the exterior screws did rust, the interior connectors etc. were free from corrosion. The exterior stainless screw kit for the K3 is the proper solution for this environment. 73, Eric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
We do not recommend spraying corrosion-x inside the K3. That will void the warranty. Corrosion X is basically an oil based preservative, which will make a mess of the inside of the radio and also make it difficult to repair when needed. In general, we have not seen serious interior corrosion on K3s in normal marine and tropical use where normal precautions are taken (keep the radio dry etc..) In those cases where the exterior screws did rust, the interior connectors etc. were free from corrosion. The exterior stainless screw kit for the K3 is the proper solution for this environment. 73, Eric --- www.elecraft.com On 12/27/2012 2:42 PM, W4GRJ wrote: I live on the water, St. Pete Beach, Fl. Besides amateur radio, I am a Fishing Guide and a Raymarine Beta Field Tester. Any electronics not specifically made for the marine environment and All electrical connections on the boat, I spray all down with Corrosion X www.corrosionx.com One of their advertisements is to take a marine radio which was subjected to salt water with the case off .now not working. Then, submerge in a bucket of corrosion x over night then power on while still submerged in corrosion x ... Now working. You could lightly spray the interior of the K3 before going on the DX expedition . Jack W4GRJ On Dec 27, 2012, at 17:01, Robert Fanfant wrote: All,While on a mini dx-pedition, most of the original exterior screws in my K3 developed rust after operating near salt water for 10 days. I have ordered the stainless steel screws to replace the original exterior K3 chassis screws. 1) Should I be concerned about rust developing inside my K3?2)Over the next several years, I plan to operate near salt water for extended periods and want to make sure I'm am not going to damage my K3. Is there anything I can, or could have done differently to prevent the rust from developing? -rob N7QT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 near salt water
I live on the water, St. Pete Beach, Fl. Besides amateur radio, I am a Fishing Guide and a Raymarine Beta Field Tester. Any electronics not specifically made for the marine environment and All electrical connections on the boat, I spray all down with Corrosion X www.corrosionx.com One of their advertisements is to take a marine radio which was subjected to salt water with the case off .now not working. Then, submerge in a bucket of corrosion x over night then power on while still submerged in corrosion x ... Now working. You could lightly spray the interior of the K3 before going on the DX expedition . Jack W4GRJ On Dec 27, 2012, at 17:01, Robert Fanfant wrote: > All,While on a mini dx-pedition, most of the original exterior screws in my > K3 developed rust after operating near salt water for 10 days. I have ordered > the stainless steel screws to replace the original exterior K3 chassis screws. > 1) Should I be concerned about rust developing inside my K3?2)Over the next > several years, I plan to operate near salt water for extended periods and > want to make sure I'm am not going to damage my K3. Is there anything I can, > or could have done differently to prevent the rust from developing? > -rob N7QT > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 near salt water
All,While on a mini dx-pedition, most of the original exterior screws in my K3 developed rust after operating near salt water for 10 days. I have ordered the stainless steel screws to replace the original exterior K3 chassis screws. 1) Should I be concerned about rust developing inside my K3?2)Over the next several years, I plan to operate near salt water for extended periods and want to make sure I'm am not going to damage my K3. Is there anything I can, or could have done differently to prevent the rust from developing? -rob N7QT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
