[Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked fine. Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to TX, USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so it keyed CW. I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu: there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I got to the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other menus. The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers and set RTS low. Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe mode allowing me to change configuration ? Thanks Marco HB9CAT P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
See if there's a smartphone app that breaks out a usb to which you've plugged in the power cable. I'm going to look for one now. Otherwise you've put yourself in a very interesting box. Need to turn off that dtr for moving. :) 73, Guy K2AV On Saturday, August 8, 2015, Marco HB9CAT hb9...@thezollingers.org wrote: I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked fine. Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to TX, USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so it keyed CW. I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu: there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I got to the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other menus. The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers and set RTS low. Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe mode allowing me to change configuration ? Thanks Marco HB9CAT P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net javascript:; This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com javascript:; -- Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
This problem is fixed in the latest beta firmware for the K3/K3S. Until then, it is best to set PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF before taking the K3/K3S to a location without USB connectivity. 73, Lyle KK7P On 8/8/15 10:31 AM, Marco HB9CAT wrote: I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked fine. Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to TX, USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so it keyed CW. I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu: there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I got to the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other menus. The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers and set RTS low. Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe mode allowing me to change configuration ? Thanks Marco HB9CAT P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kk7p4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive, I've read the manual several times. These discussions then raise the question, is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default values? I may have overlooked this. However the product not having a Master Reset I view is a major shortcoming of the product. If its there, I'd specifically like to know more. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 8/8/2015 12:31 PM, Marco HB9CAT wrote: I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked fine. Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to TX, USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so it keyed CW. I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu: there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I got to the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other menus. The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers and set RTS low. Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe mode allowing me to change configuration ? Thanks Marco HB9CAT P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
We save the configuration file at the factory. We recommend that you save the configuration file using K3 Utility upon receipt of the radio, and after installing options, loading memories, etc.. With that saved, if you have to do a master reset you do an EEINIT and then load your saved configuration. 73, Lyle KK7P In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive, I've read the manual several times. These discussions then raise the question, is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default values? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
Having read several of your posts, I find it unfortunate for you that you don't even have your K3S yet and you seem to have identified several major shortcomings. Fortunately, I'm sure there will be hundreds of opportunities to sell it should you find it is not up to your standards. The master reset feature is on page 72 of the manual. Elecraft calls it parameter initialization. I sincerely hope you find the K3S more acceptable after you receive it than you have while you've waited. 73, Scott N9AA On 8/8/15 2:54 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive, I've read the manual several times. These discussions then raise the question, is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default values? I may have overlooked this. However the product not having a Master Reset I view is a major shortcoming of the product. If its there, I'd specifically like to know more. 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
Thanks Lyle. I do have the K3Utility on the computer and will do just that..first thing. As I stated to another person letting me know of the procedure as listed in the manual, coming from other brands of radios that do offer a Master Reset I am finding the nomenclature and language, if you will, of the K3S is quite different. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 8/8/2015 2:23 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote: We save the configuration file at the factory. We recommend that you save the configuration file using K3 Utility upon receipt of the radio, and after installing options, loading memories, etc.. With that saved, if you have to do a master reset you do an EEINIT and then load your saved configuration. 73, Lyle KK7P In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive, I've read the manual several times. These discussions then raise the question, is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default values? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
Thanks Lyle, I tried the beta and it addresses exactly the issue I experienced; tried it out, works fine :-) For reference in case others experienced the same: * PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: PC applications can activate PTT and KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a Safe mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select USB SAFE or UNSAFE. Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send commands may require UNSAFE mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S. Marco HB9CAT -Original Message- From: Lyle Johnson [mailto:kk7p4...@gmail.com] Sent: sabato, 8. agosto 2015 20:27 To: hb9...@thezollingers.org; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT This problem is fixed in the latest beta firmware for the K3/K3S. Until then, it is best to set PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF before taking the K3/K3S to a location without USB connectivity. 73, Lyle KK7P On 8/8/15 10:31 AM, Marco HB9CAT wrote: I configured my K3s to use DTR to key CW, (CONFIG:PTT-KEY to “Off-RTS”) and configured my logging program (Dxlog.net) accordingly; the COM port I’m using is the K3s virtual serial related to the USB connection. Everything worked fine. Later on I unplugged the K3s to use it in another location, where I’ve just connected power and antenna (no USB); right after powering it up it went to TX, USB RTS was probably in an undefined state being interpreted as high so it keyed CW. I knew that might be the problem so I tried to access the CONFIG:PTT-KEY menu: there was no way to get there while the K3s was stuck in TX, as usual I got to the the “FW Revs” default config menu but I couldn’t move to the other menus. The only possible solution has been to get hold of a PC, install USB drivers and set RTS low. Question: is there any alternative power-up sequence to enter a sort of safe mode allowing me to change configuration ? Thanks Marco HB9CAT P.S.: all firmware revisions are the latest __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kk7p4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
Thanks Lyle, I tried the beta and it addresses exactly the issue I experienced; tried it out, works fine :-) For reference in case others experienced the same: * PTT/KEY USE WITH THE USB PORT IMPROVED: PC applications can activate PTT and KEY at the K3S via the USB port's RTS/DTR signals. However, initial setup of the rig's USB port by the PC may cause pulsed or continuous activation of the transmitter. This can happen if the computer is turned on after the K3S, or if the USB cable is not connected. There is now a Safe mode (the default) which disables PTT-KEY transmit until the K3S receives a command via USB, such as a read of the rig's VFO frequency. To turn on safe mode on/off, go into CONFIG:PTT-KEY and tap '1' to select USB SAFE or UNSAFE. Exit the menu and turn the K3S off/on. Applications that use PTT-KEY via USB but never send commands may require UNSAFE mode. In this case, unwanted transmit can be avoided by turning the PC on before the K3S. Marco HB9CAT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S Power On / PTT
Part of the short comings is largely from the fact I have used radios from the major 4 companies for many years having been licensed for over 50 years. Each brand and model has or have their own uniqueness. I don't want to come across in any form as negative or critical of the Elecraft product. After all, I've spent nearly $4K for a new radio. I view this as a wee bit more than lunch money, although if I wanted or needed other options or configurations, I would have acquired such. And yes, if I should find issues, be assured they will be investigated and documented and reported accordingly. Professionally, that's what I've done in years past with regard to software and firmware based systems. At the same time, I'm not interested in nit picking the product. I will take it for what it is and not what I'd like it to be. There is a significance difference. One of my favorite sayings: when one points the finger at someone or something, they best look down for there's three fingers pointing back at the more likely cause.I'll accept that on face value. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 8/8/2015 2:32 PM, Scott Manthe wrote: Having read several of your posts, I find it unfortunate for you that you don't even have your K3S yet and you seem to have identified several major shortcomings. Fortunately, I'm sure there will be hundreds of opportunities to sell it should you find it is not up to your standards. The master reset feature is on page 72 of the manual. Elecraft calls it parameter initialization. I sincerely hope you find the K3S more acceptable after you receive it than you have while you've waited. 73, Scott N9AA On 8/8/15 2:54 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: In this regard and while waiting on my new K3S to arrive, I've read the manual several times. These discussions then raise the question, is there no Master Reset that returns the radio to factory default values? I may have overlooked this. However the product not having a Master Reset I view is a major shortcoming of the product. If its there, I'd specifically like to know more. 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
