Re: [Elecraft] K60XV Receive Range?

2006-01-21 Thread Darrell Bellerive
No replies to this yet. Does no one have any info or should I just expect to 
see 5.0 to 5.5 MHz as the specs list?

On January 16, 2006 10:52 am, Darrell Bellerive wrote:
 Does the addition of the K60XV increase or improve the general coverage
 receive capabilities of the K2?

 When I ordered my K2 I did not order the K60XV option as we don't have the
 60 metre amateur band here in Canada. However, I was wondering if the
 addition of the module will improve the general coverage receive
 capabilities of the K2.

 Niel Skousen, WA7SSA, wrote a nice paper on the general coverage receive
 capabilities of the K2 which is on the Elecraft website at
 http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2_GenCov.htm however, the paper does not show
 the effects of the K60XV module.

 Also, do the low pass filters in the KPA100 affect the sensitivity of the
 general coverage receive ranges?

 73,
 Darrell  VA7TO  K2 # 5093

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Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: [Elecraft] K60XV Receive Range?

2006-01-21 Thread Darrell Bellerive
Mark,
Thanks very much for your reply!

Yes, you are finding the frequencies where the PLL goes out of lock. And yes 
the frequency range will vary on each band. The bandpass filters will 
probably limit the usefull range before the PLL goes out of lock. The KPA100 
low pass filters may also affect the high frequency limits depending on where 
the filter rolloff starts. Are you using a K2 or K2/100?

A list of ranges by Niel Skousen, WA7SSA, is on the Elecraft website at 
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2_GenCov.htm
however, it doesn't show the 160 or 60 meter bands.

While Niel lists the PLL high limit of the 80 meter band as 4167 kHz the 
sensitivity drops off at about 4150 kHz due to the band pass filters. I also 
believe that Niel's work was done on an early K2 and that the K2B or K2 with 
the K60XV may have different ranges. I also expect that the component 
tolerances will also affect the ranges somewhat.

So it looks like there is still a gap between 80 and 60 meters. Looks like the 
low end of the 60 meter broadcast band will still be out of range. And while 
the PLL might hold through the 49 meter band, I would expect sensitivity to 
be poor.

Thanks for your research!!!
73,
Darrell   VA7TO   K2#5093

On January 21, 2006 08:02 pm, you wrote:
 Individual results may vary, but here is what I found with my K2 (Rx
 Only, of course):

 Lowest frequency:  4.770 MHz
 Highest frequency:  6.370 MHz

 Notes:  The VFO frequency continued to change on the LCD diplay above
 and below the frequencies listed, however I think the PLL goes out of
 lock beyond that range so the frequency didn't really change even though
 the display did change.  I think this is the case because I could here a
 signal but it seemed to stay at the same frequency even though I was
 spinning the VFO knob and saw the LCD display continue to change
 frequency.  I've noticed this on other bands as well.  Also, the
 sensitivity becomes less as you get out of the specified band, however
 I didn't take the time to measure the change in sensitivity.  I would
 think the sensitivity change is due to the filtering for any given band.

 Finally, I thought you might be interested in how high does the 75m band
 coverage go so you know how much of a gap there is between 4.0 MHz and
 the lowest frequency I listed above.  Unfortunately I don't have a good
 answer for you on that as the highest signal I heard was at about 4.007
 (RTTY).  Since everything else above that was just band static I
 couldn't tell where it really dropped out, at least not without taking
 the radio to work and using a sweep generator to figure it out.  I know
 that it either had really poor sensitivity at 5.000 MHz or it didn't
 receive there at all when 80m was selected because I couldn't hear WWV
 while I could when I had the 60m band selected.  However, the low end of
 80m seemed to be (again, with reduced sensitivity) about 2.770 MHz.
 Assuming the same range as above for 60m (1.6 MHz), this would put the
 high end theoretically at 4.370 MHz.  Okay, and while I'm at it, 160m
 covered down to 1440 kHz, however, again due to lack of signals I was
 unable to determine the upper end.  I did identify a signal at 2.084
 MHz, but again I think it theoretically would be able to Rx up to 3.04 MHz.

 I didn't really think about it much, but the assumption above for
 frequency range (1.6 MHz) on bands other than 60m is not valid.
 Somebody else may be able to comment better on that.  I just proved that
 to myself by scanning the 10m band quickly and found that the radio does
 Rx over a 2 MHz range on 10m, so I guess the range does vary from band
 to band.


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Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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[Elecraft] K60XV Receive Range?

2006-01-16 Thread Darrell Bellerive
Does the addition of the K60XV increase or improve the general coverage 
receive capabilities of the K2?

When I ordered my K2 I did not order the K60XV option as we don't have the 60 
metre amateur band here in Canada. However, I was wondering if the addition 
of the module will improve the general coverage receive capabilities of the 
K2.

Niel Skousen, WA7SSA, wrote a nice paper on the general coverage receive 
capabilities of the K2 which is on the Elecraft website at 
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2_GenCov.htm however, the paper does not show 
the effects of the K60XV module.

Also, do the low pass filters in the KPA100 affect the sensitivity of the 
general coverage receive ranges?

73,
Darrell  VA7TO  K2 # 5093
-- 
Darrell Bellerive
Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA
Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada
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