Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500: Strange Symptoms on FT8

2024-01-14 Thread Andy Durbin
"My Winkeyer has settings for both lead and tail time, and so does N1MM+.  
WSJT-X does not appear to have these variables."

WSJT-X has provision for changing the delay between assertion CAT PTT and onset 
of audio (settings/advanced/miscellaneous).  The delay between end of audio and 
CAT PTT release is not adjustable but is close to a second.  WSJT-X has no 
control of either of these delays if VOX keying is used.

73,
Andy, k3wyc



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500: Strange Symptoms on FT8

2024-01-14 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
My Winkeyer has settings for both lead and tail time, and so does 
N1MM+.  WSJT-X does not appear to have these variables.


73, Pete N4ZR

On 1/14/2024 11:04 AM, Lou Laderman wrote:
Pete, your issue may only be on the back end of the transmission, and 
adjusting the delay time for the exciter to kick in is on the front 
end to prevent a hot transmission before the amp kicks in. I don’t 
know if the back end can be corrected on your exciter, or somewhere in 
the kpa1500’s menus. I don’t have the issue you reported and haven’t 
looked through the settings on my K4 or kpa1500. If all else fails, 
try posting on the kpa1500 groups.io, of ask Elecraft support directly.



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On Jan 14, 2024, at 7:28 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR  wrote:



Interesting idea, Lou.  I'll give it a try and see.

73, Pete N4ZR
On 1/13/2024 1:07 PM, Lou Laderman wrote:

Pete, have you tried increasing the transmit delay between your exciter and the 
amp? If the exciter continues to transmit briefly after the amp’s relay kicks 
out, you could see an swr spike.

73, Lou W0FK

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On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:50 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR  wrote:

I've been operating 160M FT8 recently, and am noticing some odd symptoms from 
my amp that seem only to occur in FT8 mode.  Even running only about 1170 watts 
into a good dummy load, with the KPA-1500's ATU bypassed and a displayed SWR of 
1.0:1 during transmit, as soon as the transmission ends both the display on the 
amp and the KPA-1500 utility show SWRs ON RECEIVE  of  1.6-1.9:1.

I just tested on 80 meters, and am seeing the same anomaly on FT8. This does 
not happen on CW.

The question is, where is this spurious reading coming from, and should I be 
concerned?

73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500: Strange Symptoms on FT8

2024-01-13 Thread Lou Laderman via Elecraft
Pete, have you tried increasing the transmit delay between your exciter and the 
amp? If the exciter continues to transmit briefly after the amp’s relay kicks 
out, you could see an swr spike.

73, Lou W0FK

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> On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:50 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR  wrote:
> 
> I've been operating 160M FT8 recently, and am noticing some odd symptoms 
> from my amp that seem only to occur in FT8 mode.  Even running only about 
> 1170 watts into a good dummy load, with the KPA-1500's ATU bypassed and a 
> displayed SWR of 1.0:1 during transmit, as soon as the transmission ends both 
> the display on the amp and the KPA-1500 utility show SWRs ON RECEIVE  of  
> 1.6-1.9:1.
> 
> I just tested on 80 meters, and am seeing the same anomaly on FT8. This does 
> not happen on CW.
> 
> The question is, where is this spurious reading coming from, and should I be 
> concerned?
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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[Elecraft] KPA-1500: Strange Symptoms on FT8

2024-01-13 Thread Andy Durbin
I don't have the same equipment as you but I experienced a very similar problem 
that I initially thought was caused by a problem with my KPA500.However, 
when I looked at the  output of my TS-590S with a scope and spectrum analyzer, 
I found that it was emitting out of band spurii at the end of each 
transmission.  The signal was clean before keying ended.  The problem was only 
seen on 10 m and 6 m.

My KAT500  reported a high SWR at end of transmission because the spike 
frequency was way off my SteppIR tuned frequency.  My TS-590S problem was 
caused a failed capacitor that changed the rise time of a pin diode bias signal 
and disrupted switching between TX and RX.

It may be a good idea to have a close look at your exciter output signal when 
TX ends.

73,
Andy, k3wyc


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[Elecraft] KPA-1500: Strange Symptoms on FT8

2024-01-13 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I've been operating 160M FT8 recently, and am noticing some odd symptoms 
from my amp that seem only to occur in FT8 mode.  Even running only 
about 1170 watts into a good dummy load, with the KPA-1500's ATU 
bypassed and a displayed SWR of 1.0:1 during transmit, as soon as the 
transmission ends both the display on the amp and the KPA-1500 utility 
show SWRs ON RECEIVE  of  1.6-1.9:1.


I just tested on 80 meters, and am seeing the same anomaly on FT8. This 
does not happen on CW.


The question is, where is this spurious reading coming from, and should 
I be concerned?


73, Pete N4ZR
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