Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy
maybe the real questions are will the KPA500 work withan ALE requirement Band jumping and other cool stuff are essential forĀ ALE. On 6/29/2020 11:52 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote: I think as a Ham, you can use anything you want on the Ham bands. As a manufacturer to sell it, it may need type acceptance for the service it is intended to be used in. Lots of people use aviation HF rigs on the Ham bands and you can use an amp that works on 11M or with more than the allowable gain. A manufacturer can't sell that for use in the Ham bands, but an individual Ham can use anything as long as it is operated within the regulations. I know a friend that has a huge amplifier capable of maybe 10kW. He got a visit from the FCC (long ago, don't think they care now). He showed them how it was correctly operated within the regs and how he had the ability to measure it and assure it was. The FCC guy wished him a good day. Other services where the operator is not technical and has not passed a technical exam require radios type accepted for that service as I understand things. 73, Mark W7MLG On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 7:47 AM Lyn Norstad wrote: Maybe Bob wants to use the Envoy 2 on the ham bands. I'm not familiar with the Codan line of military/business transceivers, but I see that model does have transmit coverage from 1.6 to 30 MHz. Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on the ham bands. Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted? 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark Goldberg Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:09 AM To: Bob Morgan Cc: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy That is not a Ham radio. Is it legal to use an amplifier type accepted for Ham radio for other services? 73, Mark W7MLG On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:49 AM Bob Morgan wrote: I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated. Bob Morgan KJ4SV 865 207 9568 -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@arrl.net -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy
" Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on the ham bands. Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted?" Only if the company's intention was to sell specifically to the HAM community. They of course, have the OK for their existing market. Also, any licensed ham could use this radio if it was obtained on the "used" market. If this were NOT legal, we could therefore, not use commercial an old BC transmitter for legal limit AM. Or, for that matter ANY radio not designated for HAM use.obviously, NOT the case. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Lyn Norstad Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 10:47 AM To: 'Mark Goldberg' ; 'Bob Morgan' Cc: 'Elecraft Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy Maybe Bob wants to use the Envoy 2 on the ham bands. I'm not familiar with the Codan line of military/business transceivers, but I see that model does have transmit coverage from 1.6 to 30 MHz. Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on the ham bands. Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted? 73 Lyn, W0LEN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy
I think as a Ham, you can use anything you want on the Ham bands. As a manufacturer to sell it, it may need type acceptance for the service it is intended to be used in. Lots of people use aviation HF rigs on the Ham bands and you can use an amp that works on 11M or with more than the allowable gain. A manufacturer can't sell that for use in the Ham bands, but an individual Ham can use anything as long as it is operated within the regulations. I know a friend that has a huge amplifier capable of maybe 10kW. He got a visit from the FCC (long ago, don't think they care now). He showed them how it was correctly operated within the regs and how he had the ability to measure it and assure it was. The FCC guy wished him a good day. Other services where the operator is not technical and has not passed a technical exam require radios type accepted for that service as I understand things. 73, Mark W7MLG On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 7:47 AM Lyn Norstad wrote: > > Maybe Bob wants to use the Envoy 2 on the ham bands. I'm not familiar with > the Codan line of military/business transceivers, but I see that model does > have transmit coverage from 1.6 to 30 MHz. > > Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on > the ham bands. Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without > modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted? > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark Goldberg > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:09 AM > To: Bob Morgan > Cc: Elecraft Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy > > That is not a Ham radio. Is it legal to use an amplifier type accepted > for Ham radio for other services? > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:49 AM Bob Morgan wrote: > > > > I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan > > Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated. > > Bob Morgan > > KJ4SV > > 865 207 9568 > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy
Maybe Bob wants to use the Envoy 2 on the ham bands. I'm not familiar with the Codan line of military/business transceivers, but I see that model does have transmit coverage from 1.6 to 30 MHz. Perhaps the real question is whether it would be legal to use that rig on the ham bands. Since it can apparently cover the 160 - 10m bands without modification, wouldn't it need to be type accepted? 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark Goldberg Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 9:09 AM To: Bob Morgan Cc: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy That is not a Ham radio. Is it legal to use an amplifier type accepted for Ham radio for other services? 73, Mark W7MLG On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:49 AM Bob Morgan wrote: > > I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan > Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated. > Bob Morgan > KJ4SV > 865 207 9568 > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy
That is not a Ham radio. Is it legal to use an amplifier type accepted for Ham radio for other services? 73, Mark W7MLG On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 6:49 AM Bob Morgan wrote: > > I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan > Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated. > Bob Morgan > KJ4SV > 865 207 9568 > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy
I would like to know if any in the group has used the KPA 500 with a Codan Envoy 2. Any help would be much appreciated. Bob Morgan KJ4SV 865 207 9568 -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com