Re: [Elecraft] KX3 FW - N0UK tx inhibit & CW sidetone bug reproduced
Still hoping for some resolution to this problem since it’s now been a year since it was reported to and acknowledged by Elecraft as being a firmware bug. It really renders the KX3 as fairly useless as an I/F rig for microwave transverters if you need the TxInhibit function. Chris Cox, N0UK chr...@chris.org > On Oct 10, 2020, at 09:58, Drew Arnett wrote: > > I was able to reproduce the bug Chris, N0UK, reported with tx inhibit > and CW sidetone on the KX3. > > To be thorough, the FW as just installed by Elecraft, is uC 02.90 > anddsp 01.52which is the latest. > > I have cabling for the ACC2 port, as I use ring contact to PTT a > transverter and also to PTT a KXPA100. > > Menus have had minimal configuration post service from elecraft, just > enough to setup for transverter operation in the 10 GHz contest. Mode > is CW and VOX is on of course. > > ACC2 Inhibit = Low. I used a paddle on the KXPD paddle port (key 2). > Was able to get the stuck sidetone as you describe while sending dits > or sending dahs by. (Key 2 left = dot.) For kicks, changed to Key 2 > = hand. Found that if the key is released before inhibit is released, > the sidetone does not stick. The value of inhibit when the key is > initially asserted is not buggy. Saw the same behavior with menu > setting inhibit high. > > inhibit low > key - inhibit - inhibit release - key release --> sidetone stuck > key - inhibit - key release - inhibit release --> sidetone OK > inhibit - key - inhibit release - key release --> sidetone stuck > inhibit - key - key release - inhibit release --> sidetone OK > > inhibit high > key - inhibit - inhibit release - key release --> sidetone stuck > key - inhibit - key release - inhibit release --> sidetone OK > inhibit - key - inhibit release - key release --> sidetone stuck > inhibit - key - key release - inhibit release --> sidetone OK > > The behavior is a problem is in the firmware at the inhibit released event. > > A thorough bug report would also include observations of the PTT > output and actual RF output. > > Best regards, > > Drew > n7da > >> 6. Continuing saga with Tx Inhibit and the KX3 - possible >> firmware bug? (Chris Cox, N0UK) >> 16. KX3 Tx Inhibit CW-VOX problem (Chris Cox, N0UK) >> >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:14:57 -0500 >> From: "Chris Cox, N0UK" >> To: elecraft...@groups.io >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] Continuing saga with Tx Inhibit and the KX3 - >>possiblefirmware bug? >> Message-ID: <583cb8e7-8618-4c4e-a630-8ccaacb9e...@chris.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Having solved the need for getting +Ve Tx Inhibit working on my KX3/10GHz >> Transverter integration using a mosfet switch to invert the signal and >> configured the KX3 for 0v Tx Inhibit, I had opportunity to test it out this >> afternoon. >> >> The solution seemed to work fine on SSB but I now have a weird issue when >> using the rig on CW. >> >> If I manually select transmit with the microphone PTT and then wait for the >> transverter sequencing to remove Tx Inhibit and then key CW with the >> paddles, the system works as desired. >> >> If I key the system using VOX, the Tx Inhibit functions correctly, fully >> disabling the transmitter from producing RF until TxInhibit is removed BUT >> the CW sidetone becomes permanently on from the moment TXInh disappears >> regardless of whether I am sending or not. It stays present until I press >> any of the buttons on the KX3. This happens regardless of which band is >> enabled, but occurs whenever TxInhibit is present. >> >> If I remove the TXInh fro the GPIO input (but leave the option enabled in >> the KX3 config) the rig operates normally. >> >> Can anyone else replicate this oddball behavior? It seems to be a firmware >> bug. I have tried removing power but that does not alter the effect. >> >> Again, all works just fine if I don?t try to key the paddles before PTT >> sequencing has changed over. >> >> Chris Cox, N0UK >> chr...@chris.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 08:10:31 -0500 >> From: "Chris Cox, N0UK" >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Tx Inhibit CW-VOX problem >> Message-ID: <66381756-c09a-4a99-8aa5-1e015b182...@chris.org> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Having solved the need for getting +Ve Tx Inhibit working on my KX3/10GHz >> Transverter integration using a MOSFET switch to invert the logic level >> coming from the 10GHz transverter and configured the KX3 for 0v Tx Inhibit, >> I had the opportunity to test it out yesterday afternoon. >> >> The solution seemed to work fine on SSB but I now have a weird issue when >> using the rig on CW. >> >> If I manually select transmit with the microphone PTT (didn?t try the XMIT >> key) and then wait for the transverter sequencing to remove Tx Inhibit and >> then key CW with the paddles, the system works
[Elecraft] KX3 FW - N0UK tx inhibit & CW sidetone bug reproduced
I was able to reproduce the bug Chris, N0UK, reported with tx inhibit and CW sidetone on the KX3. To be thorough, the FW as just installed by Elecraft, is uC 02.90 anddsp 01.52which is the latest. I have cabling for the ACC2 port, as I use ring contact to PTT a transverter and also to PTT a KXPA100. Menus have had minimal configuration post service from elecraft, just enough to setup for transverter operation in the 10 GHz contest. Mode is CW and VOX is on of course. ACC2 Inhibit = Low. I used a paddle on the KXPD paddle port (key 2). Was able to get the stuck sidetone as you describe while sending dits or sending dahs by. (Key 2 left = dot.) For kicks, changed to Key 2 = hand. Found that if the key is released before inhibit is released, the sidetone does not stick. The value of inhibit when the key is initially asserted is not buggy. Saw the same behavior with menu setting inhibit high. inhibit low key - inhibit - inhibit release - key release --> sidetone stuck key - inhibit - key release - inhibit release --> sidetone OK inhibit - key - inhibit release - key release --> sidetone stuck inhibit - key - key release - inhibit release --> sidetone OK inhibit high key - inhibit - inhibit release - key release --> sidetone stuck key - inhibit - key release - inhibit release --> sidetone OK inhibit - key - inhibit release - key release --> sidetone stuck inhibit - key - key release - inhibit release --> sidetone OK The behavior is a problem is in the firmware at the inhibit released event. A thorough bug report would also include observations of the PTT output and actual RF output. Best regards, Drew n7da >6. Continuing saga with Tx Inhibit and the KX3 - possible > firmware bug? (Chris Cox, N0UK) > 16. KX3 Tx Inhibit CW-VOX problem (Chris Cox, N0UK) > > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:14:57 -0500 > From: "Chris Cox, N0UK" > To: elecraft...@groups.io > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Continuing saga with Tx Inhibit and the KX3 - > possiblefirmware bug? > Message-ID: <583cb8e7-8618-4c4e-a630-8ccaacb9e...@chris.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Having solved the need for getting +Ve Tx Inhibit working on my KX3/10GHz > Transverter integration using a mosfet switch to invert the signal and > configured the KX3 for 0v Tx Inhibit, I had opportunity to test it out this > afternoon. > > The solution seemed to work fine on SSB but I now have a weird issue when > using the rig on CW. > > If I manually select transmit with the microphone PTT and then wait for the > transverter sequencing to remove Tx Inhibit and then key CW with the paddles, > the system works as desired. > > If I key the system using VOX, the Tx Inhibit functions correctly, fully > disabling the transmitter from producing RF until TxInhibit is removed BUT > the CW sidetone becomes permanently on from the moment TXInh disappears > regardless of whether I am sending or not. It stays present until I press > any of the buttons on the KX3. This happens regardless of which band is > enabled, but occurs whenever TxInhibit is present. > > If I remove the TXInh fro the GPIO input (but leave the option enabled in the > KX3 config) the rig operates normally. > > Can anyone else replicate this oddball behavior? It seems to be a firmware > bug. I have tried removing power but that does not alter the effect. > > Again, all works just fine if I don?t try to key the paddles before PTT > sequencing has changed over. > > Chris Cox, N0UK > chr...@chris.org > > > > > > > Message: 16 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 08:10:31 -0500 > From: "Chris Cox, N0UK" > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Tx Inhibit CW-VOX problem > Message-ID: <66381756-c09a-4a99-8aa5-1e015b182...@chris.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Having solved the need for getting +Ve Tx Inhibit working on my KX3/10GHz > Transverter integration using a MOSFET switch to invert the logic level > coming from the 10GHz transverter and configured the KX3 for 0v Tx Inhibit, I > had the opportunity to test it out yesterday afternoon. > > The solution seemed to work fine on SSB but I now have a weird issue when > using the rig on CW. > > If I manually select transmit with the microphone PTT (didn?t try the XMIT > key) and then wait for the transverter sequencing to remove Tx Inhibit and > then key CW with the paddles, the system works as desired. > > If I key the system using CW VOX, the Tx Inhibit functions correctly, fully > disabling the transmitter from producing RF until TxInhibit is removed by the > transverter?s sequencing logic BUT then the CW sidetone becomes permanently > on from the moment TXInh disappears, regardless of whether I am keying or > not. It stays present until I press any of the buttons on the KX3. This > happens regardless of which band is enabled, but occurs whenever TxInhibit is > initially present. > > If I remove the TXInh fro
