[Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread Robert Tellefsen
I have my K3 on order with the KAT3 ATU.

Do I  also have to order the KXV3 in order to have
an aux receive input port ?

The aux receive port came as part of the 160m option
in my K2, but 160 is already included in the K3, so I
need this clarification (and maybe a quick order update :-) )

Thanks and 73
Bob N6WG

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[Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread Bill Tippett

N6AX:
> Just assembling my K3 and perhaps I missed an assembly step because,
> though I ordered the KXV3, KIO3 and KAT3, I hve no aux antenna port
> below the two antenna connectors...what did I miss?

KK7P:
Not a thing.  It is called "RX ANT IN" on the KXV3. The port you are
referring to is near the SO-239s and is intended for the KRX3 (which is
not to imply it comes with the KRX3, or that it does not, and I don't
know the answer).

There is nothing missing in your assembly.  I
believe AUX RF (below ANT1 and ANT2) is reserved for a
future RX ANT input for the Sub RX only (i.e. similar in
function to the present RX ANT on the KXV3).  Elecraft's
drawing of the rear panel shows this port being a BNC
connector just like the KXV3's BNC for RX ANT.

Why all this complexity?  When using the Sub RX
for diversity receive, one might want to do the following:

1.  Transmit on ANT1, assign Main RX to your transmit
antenna and assign Sub RX to a receive only antenna
on AUX RF (i.e. you're using your transmit antenna and
a separate receive antenna for diversity receive).

2.  Transmit on ANT1, assign Main RX to a receive antenna
on RX ANT and assign Sub RX to another receive antenna
on AUX RF (i.e. you're using two separate receive antennas
for diversity receive).

The way I understand it (which could be wrong!) is that
AUX RF can only be used for the Sub RX, not the Main RX.
I suspect this will become more clear after the KRX3 is
introduced.  There may be a little kit to add the BNC
connector for AUX RF and appropriate wiring connecting
it to the KRX3.  In the meantime, there is absolutely
nothing wrong with your present assembly!

73,  Bill  W4ZV


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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread Stewart Baker
Yes, but clarify that it has the RX antenna isolation improvement
fitted.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:00:58 -0800, Robert Tellefsen wrote:
> I have my K3 on order with the KAT3 ATU.
>
> Do I  also have to order the KXV3 in order to have
> an aux receive input port ?
>
> The aux receive port came as part of the 160m option
> in my K2, but 160 is already included in the K3, so I
> need this clarification (and maybe a quick order update :-) )
>
> Thanks and 73
> Bob N6WG
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread Lyle Johnson

Do I  also have to order the KXV3 in order to have
an aux receive input port ?


Yes

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Thanks Stewart.
I'll do that.
73, Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
From: "Stewart Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robert Tellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested


Yes, but clarify that it has the RX antenna isolation improvement 
fitted.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:00:58 -0800, Robert Tellefsen wrote:
> I have my K3 on order with the KAT3 ATU.
>
> Do I  also have to order the KXV3 in order to have
> an aux receive input port ?
>
> The aux receive port came as part of the 160m option
> in my K2, but 160 is already included in the K3, so I
> need this clarification (and maybe a quick order update :-) )
>
> Thanks and 73
> Bob N6WG
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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread John Klewer
Just assembling my K3 and perhaps I missed an assembly step because, 
though I ordered the KXV3, KIO3 and KAT3, I hve no aux antenna port 
below the two antenna connectors...what did I miss?


John, N6AX



Lyle Johnson wrote:

Do I  also have to order the KXV3 in order to have
an aux receive input port ?


Yes

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread Lyle Johnson
Just assembling my K3 and perhaps I missed an assembly step because, 
though I ordered the KXV3, KIO3 and KAT3, I hve no aux antenna port 
below the two antenna connectors...what did I miss?


Not a thing.  It is called "RX ANT IN" on the KXV3. The port you are 
referring to is near the SO-239s and is intended for the KRX3 (which is 
not to imply it comes with the KRX3, or that it does not, and I don't 
know the answer).


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread Dave Hachadorian


- Original Message - 
From: "Lyle Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested



Do I  also have to order the KXV3 in order to have
an aux receive input port ?


Yes

73,

Lyle KK7P


Maybe I'm missing something here. What about the following
from the K3 FAQ's:

"If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use
ANT2 as a de facto RX ANT?

Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either
antenna to either receiver."

So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and 
receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3 
installed, right?


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ





















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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread Lyle Johnson
So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and receive on a 
beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3 installed, right?



Yes.

Lyle

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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-14 Thread John Klewer

Thanks to all for the good info.

John, N6AX
K3 #567

Bill Tippett wrote:

N6AX:
> Just assembling my K3 and perhaps I missed an assembly step because,
> though I ordered the KXV3, KIO3 and KAT3, I hve no aux antenna port
> below the two antenna connectors...what did I miss?

KK7P:
Not a thing.  It is called "RX ANT IN" on the KXV3. The port you are
referring to is near the SO-239s and is intended for the KRX3 (which is
not to imply it comes with the KRX3, or that it does not, and I don't
know the answer).

There is nothing missing in your assembly.  I
believe AUX RF (below ANT1 and ANT2) is reserved for a
future RX ANT input for the Sub RX only (i.e. similar in
function to the present RX ANT on the KXV3).  Elecraft's
drawing of the rear panel shows this port being a BNC
connector just like the KXV3's BNC for RX ANT.

Why all this complexity?  When using the Sub RX
for diversity receive, one might want to do the following:

1.  Transmit on ANT1, assign Main RX to your transmit
antenna and assign Sub RX to a receive only antenna
on AUX RF (i.e. you're using your transmit antenna and
a separate receive antenna for diversity receive).

2.  Transmit on ANT1, assign Main RX to a receive antenna
on RX ANT and assign Sub RX to another receive antenna
on AUX RF (i.e. you're using two separate receive antennas
for diversity receive).

The way I understand it (which could be wrong!) is that
AUX RF can only be used for the Sub RX, not the Main RX.
I suspect this will become more clear after the KRX3 is
introduced.  There may be a little kit to add the BNC
connector for AUX RF and appropriate wiring connecting
it to the KRX3.  In the meantime, there is absolutely
nothing wrong with your present assembly!

73,  Bill  W4ZV


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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-17 Thread Chad WE9V
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Dave Hachadorian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe I'm missing something here. What about the following
> from the K3 FAQ's:
>
> "If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use
> ANT2 as a de facto RX ANT?
>
> Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either
> antenna to either receiver."
>
> So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and
> receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3
> installed, right?
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL

I posed the same question to a couple of current K3 owners and they
said NO.  You need the KXV3 installed to listen to another antenna.
One of them said that the isolation is very poor between ANT1 and
ANT2, therefore you need the KXV3.  It would be nice to have
Elecraft's clarification on this, because the FAQ seems pretty clear
and contrary to what other owners have said.

Chad WE9V
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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-17 Thread Ken K3IU
My understanding is that IF you have the sub-RX installed and have the 
KAT3 installed, you can connect one antenna to ANT1, another antenna to 
ANT2, and select which antenna serves the main RX and which one serves 
the sub-RX. Since there are no sub-RXs in the field, no one has been 
able to do this and any comment about how effective (or ineffective) it 
would be seems premature.


Pages 38, 39 and 40 of the Rev C Owners Manual makes it pretty clear... 
to me, anyway.


73,
Ken K3IU

Chad WE9V wrote:

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Dave Hachadorian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Maybe I'm missing something here. What about the following
from the K3 FAQ's:

"If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use
ANT2 as a de facto RX ANT?

Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either
antenna to either receiver."

So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and
receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3
installed, right?

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL



I posed the same question to a couple of current K3 owners and they
said NO.  You need the KXV3 installed to listen to another antenna.
One of them said that the isolation is very poor between ANT1 and
ANT2, therefore you need the KXV3.  It would be nice to have
Elecraft's clarification on this, because the FAQ seems pretty clear
and contrary to what other owners have said.

Chad WE9V
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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-17 Thread Dave Hachadorian
- Original Message - 
From: "Chad WE9V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Dave Hachadorian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested



On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Dave Hachadorian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something here. What about the
following
from the K3 FAQ's:

"If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3
use
ANT2 as a de facto RX ANT?

Yes.  If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate
either
antenna to either receiver."

So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and
receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3
installed, right?

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL


I posed the same question to a couple of current K3 owners
and they
said NO.  You need the KXV3 installed to listen to another
antenna.
One of them said that the isolation is very poor between
ANT1 and
ANT2, therefore you need the KXV3.  It would be nice to
have
Elecraft's clarification on this, because the FAQ seems
pretty clear
and contrary to what other owners have said.

Chad WE9V


Hi Chad,

I thought this reply was an authoritative answer:
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-KXV3-clarification-requested-p16058211.html

I believe Lyle Johnson is an Elecraft employee.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ




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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-17 Thread Lyle Johnson

I thought this reply was an authoritative answer:
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-KXV3-clarification-requested-p16058211.html

I believe Lyle Johnson is an Elecraft employee.


Yes, but he is fallible.

I just tried it out on my radio and thought that in split mode I could 
have a different antenna selected but on the same band.


I couldn't with the firmware I am running now.

So, the correct answer is at present that you have to hit the antenna 
switch to toggle.  Perhaps a future firmware release will let you set up 
the other antenna for Tx.


Sorry, didn't mean to mislead.

73,

Lyle KK7P


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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-18 Thread Chad WE9V
>  I just tried it out on my radio and thought that in split mode I could
>  have a different antenna selected but on the same band.
>
>  I couldn't with the firmware I am running now.
>
>  So, the correct answer is at present that you have to hit the antenna
>  switch to toggle.  Perhaps a future firmware release will let you set up
>  the other antenna for Tx.

So, do I need to add a $100 KXV3 to my order just to get the RX ANT
feature, or will this functionality be added to the firmware?  That
is, when you only have a K3 and KAT3, have the ability to TX on one
antenna port, and automatically RX on the other antenna port?

Chad WE9V
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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested

2008-03-18 Thread K3KO

Alternative is to build yourself an external box which switches in the RX
antenna for RX and to the xmit antenna for xmit.  You can use "key out' to
orchestrate this.  

Have had to do this with quite a few radios that did not have RX antenna
inputs.  Mine uses a large reed relay and thus rapidly performs this task.  

de K3KO

Robert Tellefsen wrote:
> 
> I have my K3 on order with the KAT3 ATU.
> 
> Do I  also have to order the KXV3 in order to have
> an aux receive input port ?
> 
> The aux receive port came as part of the 160m option
> in my K2, but 160 is already included in the K3, so I
> need this clarification (and maybe a quick order update :-) )
> 
> Thanks and 73
> Bob N6WG
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