[Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
I have my K3 on order with the KAT3 ATU. Do I also have to order the KXV3 in order to have an aux receive input port ? The aux receive port came as part of the 160m option in my K2, but 160 is already included in the K3, so I need this clarification (and maybe a quick order update :-) ) Thanks and 73 Bob N6WG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
N6AX: > Just assembling my K3 and perhaps I missed an assembly step because, > though I ordered the KXV3, KIO3 and KAT3, I hve no aux antenna port > below the two antenna connectors...what did I miss? KK7P: Not a thing. It is called "RX ANT IN" on the KXV3. The port you are referring to is near the SO-239s and is intended for the KRX3 (which is not to imply it comes with the KRX3, or that it does not, and I don't know the answer). There is nothing missing in your assembly. I believe AUX RF (below ANT1 and ANT2) is reserved for a future RX ANT input for the Sub RX only (i.e. similar in function to the present RX ANT on the KXV3). Elecraft's drawing of the rear panel shows this port being a BNC connector just like the KXV3's BNC for RX ANT. Why all this complexity? When using the Sub RX for diversity receive, one might want to do the following: 1. Transmit on ANT1, assign Main RX to your transmit antenna and assign Sub RX to a receive only antenna on AUX RF (i.e. you're using your transmit antenna and a separate receive antenna for diversity receive). 2. Transmit on ANT1, assign Main RX to a receive antenna on RX ANT and assign Sub RX to another receive antenna on AUX RF (i.e. you're using two separate receive antennas for diversity receive). The way I understand it (which could be wrong!) is that AUX RF can only be used for the Sub RX, not the Main RX. I suspect this will become more clear after the KRX3 is introduced. There may be a little kit to add the BNC connector for AUX RF and appropriate wiring connecting it to the KRX3. In the meantime, there is absolutely nothing wrong with your present assembly! 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
Yes, but clarify that it has the RX antenna isolation improvement fitted. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:00:58 -0800, Robert Tellefsen wrote: > I have my K3 on order with the KAT3 ATU. > > Do I also have to order the KXV3 in order to have > an aux receive input port ? > > The aux receive port came as part of the 160m option > in my K2, but 160 is already included in the K3, so I > need this clarification (and maybe a quick order update :-) ) > > Thanks and 73 > Bob N6WG > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
Do I also have to order the KXV3 in order to have an aux receive input port ? Yes 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
Thanks Stewart. I'll do that. 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "Stewart Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Robert Tellefsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested Yes, but clarify that it has the RX antenna isolation improvement fitted. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:00:58 -0800, Robert Tellefsen wrote: > I have my K3 on order with the KAT3 ATU. > > Do I also have to order the KXV3 in order to have > an aux receive input port ? > > The aux receive port came as part of the 160m option > in my K2, but 160 is already included in the K3, so I > need this clarification (and maybe a quick order update :-) ) > > Thanks and 73 > Bob N6WG > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
Just assembling my K3 and perhaps I missed an assembly step because, though I ordered the KXV3, KIO3 and KAT3, I hve no aux antenna port below the two antenna connectors...what did I miss? John, N6AX Lyle Johnson wrote: Do I also have to order the KXV3 in order to have an aux receive input port ? Yes 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
Just assembling my K3 and perhaps I missed an assembly step because, though I ordered the KXV3, KIO3 and KAT3, I hve no aux antenna port below the two antenna connectors...what did I miss? Not a thing. It is called "RX ANT IN" on the KXV3. The port you are referring to is near the SO-239s and is intended for the KRX3 (which is not to imply it comes with the KRX3, or that it does not, and I don't know the answer). 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
- Original Message - From: "Lyle Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested Do I also have to order the KXV3 in order to have an aux receive input port ? Yes 73, Lyle KK7P Maybe I'm missing something here. What about the following from the K3 FAQ's: "If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use ANT2 as a de facto RX ANT? Yes. If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either antenna to either receiver." So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3 installed, right? Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ . ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3 installed, right? Yes. Lyle ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
Thanks to all for the good info. John, N6AX K3 #567 Bill Tippett wrote: N6AX: > Just assembling my K3 and perhaps I missed an assembly step because, > though I ordered the KXV3, KIO3 and KAT3, I hve no aux antenna port > below the two antenna connectors...what did I miss? KK7P: Not a thing. It is called "RX ANT IN" on the KXV3. The port you are referring to is near the SO-239s and is intended for the KRX3 (which is not to imply it comes with the KRX3, or that it does not, and I don't know the answer). There is nothing missing in your assembly. I believe AUX RF (below ANT1 and ANT2) is reserved for a future RX ANT input for the Sub RX only (i.e. similar in function to the present RX ANT on the KXV3). Elecraft's drawing of the rear panel shows this port being a BNC connector just like the KXV3's BNC for RX ANT. Why all this complexity? When using the Sub RX for diversity receive, one might want to do the following: 1. Transmit on ANT1, assign Main RX to your transmit antenna and assign Sub RX to a receive only antenna on AUX RF (i.e. you're using your transmit antenna and a separate receive antenna for diversity receive). 2. Transmit on ANT1, assign Main RX to a receive antenna on RX ANT and assign Sub RX to another receive antenna on AUX RF (i.e. you're using two separate receive antennas for diversity receive). The way I understand it (which could be wrong!) is that AUX RF can only be used for the Sub RX, not the Main RX. I suspect this will become more clear after the KRX3 is introduced. There may be a little kit to add the BNC connector for AUX RF and appropriate wiring connecting it to the KRX3. In the meantime, there is absolutely nothing wrong with your present assembly! 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Dave Hachadorian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something here. What about the following > from the K3 FAQ's: > > "If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use > ANT2 as a de facto RX ANT? > > Yes. If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either > antenna to either receiver." > > So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and > receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3 > installed, right? > > Dave Hachadorian, K6LL I posed the same question to a couple of current K3 owners and they said NO. You need the KXV3 installed to listen to another antenna. One of them said that the isolation is very poor between ANT1 and ANT2, therefore you need the KXV3. It would be nice to have Elecraft's clarification on this, because the FAQ seems pretty clear and contrary to what other owners have said. Chad WE9V ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
My understanding is that IF you have the sub-RX installed and have the KAT3 installed, you can connect one antenna to ANT1, another antenna to ANT2, and select which antenna serves the main RX and which one serves the sub-RX. Since there are no sub-RXs in the field, no one has been able to do this and any comment about how effective (or ineffective) it would be seems premature. Pages 38, 39 and 40 of the Rev C Owners Manual makes it pretty clear... to me, anyway. 73, Ken K3IU Chad WE9V wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Dave Hachadorian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here. What about the following from the K3 FAQ's: "If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use ANT2 as a de facto RX ANT? Yes. If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either antenna to either receiver." So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3 installed, right? Dave Hachadorian, K6LL I posed the same question to a couple of current K3 owners and they said NO. You need the KXV3 installed to listen to another antenna. One of them said that the isolation is very poor between ANT1 and ANT2, therefore you need the KXV3. It would be nice to have Elecraft's clarification on this, because the FAQ seems pretty clear and contrary to what other owners have said. Chad WE9V ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
- Original Message - From: "Chad WE9V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dave Hachadorian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Dave Hachadorian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe I'm missing something here. What about the following from the K3 FAQ's: "If the transverter option is not installed, can the K3 use ANT2 as a de facto RX ANT? Yes. If the KXV3 is not installed, you can designate either antenna to either receiver." So, this will allow me to transmit on a main antenna, and receive on a beverage without a subreceiver or KXV3 installed, right? Dave Hachadorian, K6LL I posed the same question to a couple of current K3 owners and they said NO. You need the KXV3 installed to listen to another antenna. One of them said that the isolation is very poor between ANT1 and ANT2, therefore you need the KXV3. It would be nice to have Elecraft's clarification on this, because the FAQ seems pretty clear and contrary to what other owners have said. Chad WE9V Hi Chad, I thought this reply was an authoritative answer: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-KXV3-clarification-requested-p16058211.html I believe Lyle Johnson is an Elecraft employee. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
I thought this reply was an authoritative answer: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-KXV3-clarification-requested-p16058211.html I believe Lyle Johnson is an Elecraft employee. Yes, but he is fallible. I just tried it out on my radio and thought that in split mode I could have a different antenna selected but on the same band. I couldn't with the firmware I am running now. So, the correct answer is at present that you have to hit the antenna switch to toggle. Perhaps a future firmware release will let you set up the other antenna for Tx. Sorry, didn't mean to mislead. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
> I just tried it out on my radio and thought that in split mode I could > have a different antenna selected but on the same band. > > I couldn't with the firmware I am running now. > > So, the correct answer is at present that you have to hit the antenna > switch to toggle. Perhaps a future firmware release will let you set up > the other antenna for Tx. So, do I need to add a $100 KXV3 to my order just to get the RX ANT feature, or will this functionality be added to the firmware? That is, when you only have a K3 and KAT3, have the ability to TX on one antenna port, and automatically RX on the other antenna port? Chad WE9V ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 clarification requested
Alternative is to build yourself an external box which switches in the RX antenna for RX and to the xmit antenna for xmit. You can use "key out' to orchestrate this. Have had to do this with quite a few radios that did not have RX antenna inputs. Mine uses a large reed relay and thus rapidly performs this task. de K3KO Robert Tellefsen wrote: > > I have my K3 on order with the KAT3 ATU. > > Do I also have to order the KXV3 in order to have > an aux receive input port ? > > The aux receive port came as part of the 160m option > in my K2, but 160 is already included in the K3, so I > need this clarification (and maybe a quick order update :-) ) > > Thanks and 73 > Bob N6WG > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/KXV3-clarification-requested-tp16056023p16130649.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com