Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-28 Thread Fred Smith
They can be used in contests as most CW is all macro's and DXpedition's 2-3
macro's all that is needed. Those are about the only times CW is needed for
most ops as digital has replaced it for many uses.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Hague
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:10 AM
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

Hi Bill and congratulations.

Just a point before you get frustrated, computers reading CW, I wouldn't
rely on it!, OK if both sides are using machine morse but if one is using
the traditional way.


Best regards, Tim Hague, M0AFJ
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 28 May 2013, at 03:56, Peter Hedberg k7...@arrl.net wrote:

 For a Nano second I thought about a self-build but when I considered 
 time verses cost it was a no brainer for me.  My new K3 and P3 will be 
 delivered in a couple of days and  a couple of hours after that I will 
 have it on the air.  I wasn't at all concerned about my ability to 
 assemble the parts and pieces but  I really like instant gratification so
for me to pay the little
 extra to have the factory do the assembly and testing made sense for me.
I
 pretty much knew what I wanted in the way of accessories but I wasn't 
 real clear on the filter choices.  Their customer service guru Harold 
 knew the questions to ask and he walked me through what would be best for
my type of
 operating.   In the end he even saved me some dollars over my original
 choices.
 
 Congratulations Bill on passing the general and extra in one sitting 
 and welcome to our world.  It's a fantastic place!
 
 73 - Pete - K7WTG
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Blomgren [mailto:billb...@nc.rr.com]
 Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:52 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?
 
 
 I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly I'm not 
 sure I have enough time to build a K3.. (which is what I'm currently 
 looking
 at..) - or a KX3.
 
 My problem: deciding which options will be useful.  I've never done
hf... 
 I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw into 4 heliax with an antenna way 
 up theree.. or a pile of verticals that I never have to touch 
 because the tuning was done correctly N years ago  I had the Tech 
 for 2 months, and with my background splurged on taking both the 
 general and extra.. and somehow managed to pass both.  (Thanks to the 
 DurHamFest and their VE's!)
 
 I'm not sure what will be needed at this point.  Right now, I don't 'do' 
 code. Never learned it.  I will eventually pick it up, but not right 
 at first... Computer? but of course... That's the sort of stuff I do 
 for a living, so morse from keyboard? No issue.  Reading what comes 
 back?  The computer can handle that.
 
 Pactor?  Shoot.. I'm a tcp/ip junkie... it's not IP, but it is a 
 packet from point A to someplace else.. Can do.
 
 Other that that.. I'm really not sure what options will be required in 
 a 100 watt/living in an apartment with resulting ugly antenna issue 
 world will need.  Obviously the antenna tuner, but what else is 
 everyone finding useful. (I can skip the 2 meter add on for the time 
 being... probably can find a 6 meter antenna I can fudge into 
 functionality.. SOMETHING for 20 to
 6 meters perhaps...or 20 through 10... Again, not sure what will be
needed.
 
 Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with every 
 possible bell and whistle.. but is it all something a newb will use?
 
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[Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Bill Blomgren


I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly I'm not sure I 
have enough time to build a K3.. (which is what I'm currently looking 
at..) - or a KX3.


My problem: deciding which options will be useful.  I've never done hf... 
I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw into 4 heliax with an antenna way up 
theree.. or a pile of verticals that I never have to touch because the 
tuning was done correctly N years ago  I had the Tech for 2 months, and 
with my background splurged on taking both the general and extra.. and 
somehow managed to pass both.  (Thanks to the DurHamFest and their VE's!)


I'm not sure what will be needed at this point.  Right now, I don't 'do' 
code. Never learned it.  I will eventually pick it up, but not right at 
first... Computer? but of course... That's the sort of stuff I do for a 
living, so morse from keyboard? No issue.  Reading what comes back?  The 
computer can handle that.


Pactor?  Shoot.. I'm a tcp/ip junkie... it's not IP, but it is a packet from 
point A to someplace else.. Can do.


Other that that.. I'm really not sure what options will be required in a 100 
watt/living in an apartment with resulting ugly antenna issue world will 
need.  Obviously the antenna tuner, but what else is everyone finding 
useful. (I can skip the 2 meter add on for the time being... probably can 
find a 6 meter antenna I can fudge into functionality.. SOMETHING for 20 to 
6 meters perhaps...or 20 through 10... Again, not sure what will be needed.


Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with every possible 
bell and whistle.. but is it all something a newb will use? 


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Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett

The good thing is you can add stuff later, if you need it.

I would start out with a CW filter/RTTY Filter, 100 watts and the tuner. 
   If you plan to xmit FM or AM you will need the appropriate filter.  
The Xvter board is nice if you use receiving antennas.  The sub Rcv is 
great if you like to tune multiple bands at the same time.  If you want 
general coverage then you will need that module.


The kits are fairly simplistic to build.  The boards are built and 
tested.  It is a matter of building the case around the parts.  I 
enjoyed building both of mine and my amp.  They really don't take too 
long to build.  If you don't have the time then have Elecraft build it, 
the additional cost is reasonable.


If you are into QRP then look at the KX3.

Mike W0MU

On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Bill Blomgren wrote:


I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly I'm not 
sure I have enough time to build a K3.. (which is what I'm currently 
looking at..) - or a KX3.


My problem: deciding which options will be useful.  I've never done 
hf... I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw into 4 heliax with an 
antenna way up theree.. or a pile of verticals that I never have 
to touch because the tuning was done correctly N years ago  I had 
the Tech for 2 months, and with my background splurged on taking both 
the general and extra.. and somehow managed to pass both.  (Thanks to 
the DurHamFest and their VE's!)


I'm not sure what will be needed at this point.  Right now, I don't 
'do' code. Never learned it.  I will eventually pick it up, but not 
right at first... Computer? but of course... That's the sort of stuff 
I do for a living, so morse from keyboard? No issue.  Reading what 
comes back?  The computer can handle that.


Pactor?  Shoot.. I'm a tcp/ip junkie... it's not IP, but it is a 
packet from point A to someplace else.. Can do.


Other that that.. I'm really not sure what options will be required in 
a 100 watt/living in an apartment with resulting ugly antenna issue 
world will need.  Obviously the antenna tuner, but what else is 
everyone finding useful. (I can skip the 2 meter add on for the time 
being... probably can find a 6 meter antenna I can fudge into 
functionality.. SOMETHING for 20 to 6 meters perhaps...or 20 through 
10... Again, not sure what will be needed.


Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with every 
possible bell and whistle.. but is it all something a newb will use?

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Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Brendon Whateley
That has not been my experience at all.  They come back with how do you 
operate or intend to operate and then go from there.  Since so many of them 
use the equipment, I found them to be a great resource when ordering.  It all 
comes down to knowing what you want to do...

- Brendon
KK6AYI

On May 27, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Bill Blomgren wrote:

 Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with every possible 
 bell and whistle.. but is it all something a newb will use? 

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Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Josh Fiden
Considering you're initially running SSB with compromised antennas, I 
would definitely look at K3-100 and not run QRP. You don't need any 
filter to start besides the stock 2.7 or 8-pole 2.8kHz, the DSP will do 
the rest until you know what you want to do and where you want improved 
performance. As W0MU correctly noted, you can always add whatever you 
want. This is a great feature of the K3! You will want an antenna tuner, 
either the internal KAT3, or if you want the option of running more 
power later, you might consider putting the cost of the KAT3 into a 
KAT500 which accomplishes the same thing but accommodates up to 1KW. 
Alternately, if you anticipate wanting to load up a wet noodle (possible 
in an apartment), some external tuners will give you more flexibility. 
Last, my favorite bargain headset Yamaha CM100 and you're in business!


Welcome to HF!

73,
Josh W6XU


On 5/27/2013 3:12 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

The good thing is you can add stuff later, if you need it.

I would start out with a CW filter/RTTY Filter, 100 watts and the 
tuner.If you plan to xmit FM or AM you will need the appropriate 
filter.  The Xvter board is nice if you use receiving antennas.  The 
sub Rcv is great if you like to tune multiple bands at the same time.  
If you want general coverage then you will need that module.


The kits are fairly simplistic to build.  The boards are built and 
tested.  It is a matter of building the case around the parts.  I 
enjoyed building both of mine and my amp.  They really don't take too 
long to build.  If you don't have the time then have Elecraft build 
it, the additional cost is reasonable.


If you are into QRP then look at the KX3.

Mike W0MU

On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Bill Blomgren wrote:


I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly I'm not 
sure I have enough time to build a K3.. (which is what I'm currently 
looking at..) - or a KX3.


My problem: deciding which options will be useful.  I've never done 
hf... I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw into 4 heliax with an 
antenna way up theree.. or a pile of verticals that I never 
have to touch because the tuning was done correctly N years ago  
I had the Tech for 2 months, and with my background splurged on 
taking both the general and extra.. and somehow managed to pass 
both.  (Thanks to the DurHamFest and their VE's!)


I'm not sure what will be needed at this point.  Right now, I don't 
'do' code. Never learned it.  I will eventually pick it up, but not 
right at first... Computer? but of course... That's the sort of stuff 
I do for a living, so morse from keyboard? No issue.  Reading what 
comes back?  The computer can handle that.


Pactor?  Shoot.. I'm a tcp/ip junkie... it's not IP, but it is a 
packet from point A to someplace else.. Can do.


Other that that.. I'm really not sure what options will be required 
in a 100 watt/living in an apartment with resulting ugly antenna 
issue world will need.  Obviously the antenna tuner, but what else is 
everyone finding useful. (I can skip the 2 meter add on for the time 
being... probably can find a 6 meter antenna I can fudge into 
functionality.. SOMETHING for 20 to 6 meters perhaps...or 20 through 
10... Again, not sure what will be needed.


Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with every 
possible bell and whistle.. but is it all something a newb will use?

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Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Wes Stewart
I've designed and built a lot of gear in my 55 years of ham radio (see 
http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html for a couple of the simpler projects).  I also 
built my K3/100, which isn't much of a challenge, but frankly if I were you 
and time was limited, I would just buy one assembled.

For options, maybe the 2.8 KHz filter upgrade (I'm not sure I would do that 
again either), the ATU (I use resonant antennas or a linear antenna tuner) so 
I didn't include one.  If you are going to do RTTY you might want the 400Hz 
filter and it will come in handy if you ever use CW.  Of course the 100W 
option, otherwise, you're done.

Wes  N7WS

--- On Mon, 5/27/13, Bill Blomgren billb...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly
 I'm not sure I have enough time to build a K3.. (which is
 what I'm currently looking at..) - or a KX3.
 
 My problem: deciding which options will be useful. 
 I've never done hf... I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw
 into 4 heliax with an antenna way up theree.. or a
 pile of verticals that I never have to touch because the
 tuning was done correctly N years ago  I had the
 Tech for 2 months, and with my background splurged on taking
 both the general and extra.. and somehow managed to pass
 both.  (Thanks to the DurHamFest and their VE's!)
 
 I'm not sure what will be needed at this point.  Right
 now, I don't 'do' code. Never learned it.  I will
 eventually pick it up, but not right at first... Computer?
 but of course... That's the sort of stuff I do for a living,
 so morse from keyboard? No issue.  Reading what comes
 back?  The computer can handle that.
 
 Pactor?  Shoot.. I'm a tcp/ip junkie... it's not IP,
 but it is a packet from point A to someplace else.. Can do.
 
 Other that that.. I'm really not sure what options will be
 required in a 100 watt/living in an apartment with resulting
 ugly antenna issue world will need.  Obviously the
 antenna tuner, but what else is everyone finding useful. (I
 can skip the 2 meter add on for the time being... probably
 can find a 6 meter antenna I can fudge into functionality..
 SOMETHING for 20 to 6 meters perhaps...or 20 through 10...
 Again, not sure what will be needed.
 
 Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with
 every possible bell and whistle.. but is it all
 something a newb will use? 
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Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Bill Blomgren
That's the sort of thing I was thinking.. I *really* don't anticipate going 
higher than 100 watts.. and will try the tripod antennas they have available 
in all probability, and look into building a motorized magnetic loop in all 
likelihood.  (I can put nylon straps around the wooden beam holding up the 
second floor here.. and move the 2 meter somewhere.. perhaps to the front of 
the apartment, hanging from the light outside..G


I was looking at ground loops - the only problem there would be RF levels if 
a cat or goose decided to get nosey.  (I don't want to injure the critters, 
and don't want nosey kids playing with the antenna, naturally.  A tripod 
antenna can find its way into the storage room easily... a Mag Loop?  Get it 
up to the 6 or 7 foot level, and hope no one yanks on it.



- Original Message - 
From: Josh Fiden j...@voodoolab.com

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?


Considering you're initially running SSB with compromised antennas, I 
would definitely look at K3-100 and not run QRP. You don't need any filter 
to start besides the stock 2.7 or 8-pole 2.8kHz, the DSP will do the rest 
until you know what you want to do and where you want improved 
performance. As W0MU correctly noted, you can always add whatever you 
want. This is a great feature of the K3! You will want an antenna tuner, 
either the internal KAT3, or if you want the option of running more power 
later, you might consider putting the cost of the KAT3 into a KAT500 which 
accomplishes the same thing but accommodates up to 1KW. Alternately, if 
you anticipate wanting to load up a wet noodle (possible in an apartment), 
some external tuners will give you more flexibility. Last, my favorite 
bargain headset Yamaha CM100 and you're in business!


Welcome to HF!

73,
Josh W6XU


On 5/27/2013 3:12 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

The good thing is you can add stuff later, if you need it.

I would start out with a CW filter/RTTY Filter, 100 watts and the tuner. 
If you plan to xmit FM or AM you will need the appropriate filter.  The 
Xvter board is nice if you use receiving antennas.  The sub Rcv is great 
if you like to tune multiple bands at the same time.  If you want general 
coverage then you will need that module.


The kits are fairly simplistic to build.  The boards are built and 
tested.  It is a matter of building the case around the parts.  I enjoyed 
building both of mine and my amp.  They really don't take too long to 
build.  If you don't have the time then have Elecraft build it, the 
additional cost is reasonable.


If you are into QRP then look at the KX3.

Mike W0MU

On 5/27/2013 3:51 PM, Bill Blomgren wrote:


I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly I'm not 
sure I have enough time to build a K3.. (which is what I'm currently 
looking at..) - or a KX3.


My problem: deciding which options will be useful.  I've never done 
hf... I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw into 4 heliax with an antenna 
way up theree.. or a pile of verticals that I never have to touch 
because the tuning was done correctly N years ago  I had the Tech 
for 2 months, and with my background splurged on taking both the general 
and extra.. and somehow managed to pass both.  (Thanks to the DurHamFest 
and their VE's!)


I'm not sure what will be needed at this point.  Right now, I don't 'do' 
code. Never learned it.  I will eventually pick it up, but not right at 
first... Computer? but of course... That's the sort of stuff I do for a 
living, so morse from keyboard? No issue.  Reading what comes back?  The 
computer can handle that.


Pactor?  Shoot.. I'm a tcp/ip junkie... it's not IP, but it is a packet 
from point A to someplace else.. Can do.


Other that that.. I'm really not sure what options will be required in a 
100 watt/living in an apartment with resulting ugly antenna issue world 
will need.  Obviously the antenna tuner, but what else is everyone 
finding useful. (I can skip the 2 meter add on for the time being... 
probably can find a 6 meter antenna I can fudge into functionality.. 
SOMETHING for 20 to 6 meters perhaps...or 20 through 10... Again, not 
sure what will be needed.


Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with every 
possible bell and whistle.. but is it all something a newb will use?

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Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

OK, you don't have time to assemble the kit (it only takes 6 to 8 hours 
unless you have a lot of options) - so go with the K3/100.

With your antenna limitations, you should add the KXAT3.

All of the other options will depend on your chosen operating.  As a new 
General (Congratulations BTW), I would suggest you delay all other 
options until you can determine what kind of operation you will be doing 
on HF.

There are 2 exceptions to that advice:
1) If you even think you might later want to add the 2nd receiver *and* 
operate using diversity mode, get the 8 pole 2.8 kHz filter.
2) If you also desire to listen to SW Broadcast, add the KBPF3, and you 
may want either the 6 kHz or 13 kHz filter to receive AM.


I would limit the options to those choices until you have a handle on 
what your HF operations will be and once you have a little experience, 
you can easily add other options as needed (or desired).


If you get into CW or Data Mode contesting (or DXing) where you are 
operating with many other stations close to your frequency, you are 
likely to want additional roofing filters to minimize AGC 'pumping' 
which result from very strong stations close to your frequency.  If you 
venture into CW, you may want either the 250 or the 400 Hz filters - the 
400 Hz filter is also great for data modes, but if you use a wide (SSB 
width) waterfall when running data modes, that narrow filter will not be 
in use.


If you are not serious about working DX in pileup situations or heavy 
contesting, the DSP filtering in the K3 will serve admirably.
Even if you are serious about trying some of that kind of operating, I 
suggest you try the K3 with just the 2.7 or 2.8 kHz filter until you get 
your station on the air and enjoy your contacts.  If you find you need 
more roofing filters, the extra filters can be easily added.


Get the K3, then get the HF experience, and then you will know what you 
want to add to your K3.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 5/27/2013 6:43 PM, Bill Blomgren wrote:
That's the sort of thing I was thinking.. I *really* don't anticipate 
going higher than 100 watts.. and will try the tripod antennas they 
have available in all probability, and look into building a motorized 
magnetic loop in all likelihood.  (I can put nylon straps around the 
wooden beam holding up the second floor here.. and move the 2 meter 
somewhere.. perhaps to the front of the apartment, hanging from the 
light outside..G


I was looking at ground loops - the only problem there would be RF 
levels if a cat or goose decided to get nosey.  (I don't want to 
injure the critters, and don't want nosey kids playing with the 
antenna, naturally.  A tripod antenna can find its way into the 
storage room easily... a Mag Loop?  Get it up to the 6 or 7 foot 
level, and hope no one yanks on it.



- Original Message - From: Josh Fiden j...@voodoolab.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?


Considering you're initially running SSB with compromised antennas, I 
would definitely look at K3-100 and not run QRP. You don't need any 
filter to start besides the stock 2.7 or 8-pole 2.8kHz, the DSP will 
do the rest until you know what you want to do and where you want 
improved performance. As W0MU correctly noted, you can always add 
whatever you want. This is a great feature of the K3! You will want 
an antenna tuner, either the internal KAT3, or if you want the option 
of running more power later, you might consider putting the cost of 
the KAT3 into a KAT500 which accomplishes the same thing but 
accommodates up to 1KW. Alternately, if you anticipate wanting to 
load up a wet noodle (possible in an apartment), some external tuners 
will give you more flexibility. Last, my favorite bargain headset 
Yamaha CM100 and you're in business!


Welcome to HF!

73,
Josh W6XU



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Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Peter Hedberg
For a Nano second I thought about a self-build but when I considered time
verses cost it was a no brainer for me.  My new K3 and P3 will be delivered
in a couple of days and  a couple of hours after that I will have it on the
air.  I wasn't at all concerned about my ability to assemble the parts and
pieces but  I really like instant gratification so for me to pay the little
extra to have the factory do the assembly and testing made sense for me.   I
pretty much knew what I wanted in the way of accessories but I wasn't real
clear on the filter choices.  Their customer service guru Harold knew the
questions to ask and he walked me through what would be best for my type of
operating.   In the end he even saved me some dollars over my original
choices.

Congratulations Bill on passing the general and extra in one sitting and
welcome to our world.  It's a fantastic place!  

73 - Pete - K7WTG



-Original Message-
From: Bill Blomgren [mailto:billb...@nc.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:52 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?


I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly I'm not sure I
have enough time to build a K3.. (which is what I'm currently looking
at..) - or a KX3.

My problem: deciding which options will be useful.  I've never done hf... 
I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw into 4 heliax with an antenna way up
theree.. or a pile of verticals that I never have to touch because the
tuning was done correctly N years ago  I had the Tech for 2 months, and
with my background splurged on taking both the general and extra.. and
somehow managed to pass both.  (Thanks to the DurHamFest and their VE's!)

I'm not sure what will be needed at this point.  Right now, I don't 'do' 
code. Never learned it.  I will eventually pick it up, but not right at
first... Computer? but of course... That's the sort of stuff I do for a
living, so morse from keyboard? No issue.  Reading what comes back?  The
computer can handle that.

Pactor?  Shoot.. I'm a tcp/ip junkie... it's not IP, but it is a packet from
point A to someplace else.. Can do.

Other that that.. I'm really not sure what options will be required in a 100
watt/living in an apartment with resulting ugly antenna issue world will
need.  Obviously the antenna tuner, but what else is everyone finding
useful. (I can skip the 2 meter add on for the time being... probably can
find a 6 meter antenna I can fudge into functionality.. SOMETHING for 20 to
6 meters perhaps...or 20 through 10... Again, not sure what will be needed.

Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with every possible
bell and whistle.. but is it all something a newb will use? 

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Re: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?

2013-05-27 Thread Tim Hague
Hi Bill and congratulations.

Just a point before you get frustrated, computers reading CW, I wouldn't rely 
on it!, OK if both sides are using machine morse but if one is using the 
traditional way.


Best regards, Tim Hague, M0AFJ
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 28 May 2013, at 03:56, Peter Hedberg k7...@arrl.net wrote:

 For a Nano second I thought about a self-build but when I considered time
 verses cost it was a no brainer for me.  My new K3 and P3 will be delivered
 in a couple of days and  a couple of hours after that I will have it on the
 air.  I wasn't at all concerned about my ability to assemble the parts and
 pieces but  I really like instant gratification so for me to pay the little
 extra to have the factory do the assembly and testing made sense for me.   I
 pretty much knew what I wanted in the way of accessories but I wasn't real
 clear on the filter choices.  Their customer service guru Harold knew the
 questions to ask and he walked me through what would be best for my type of
 operating.   In the end he even saved me some dollars over my original
 choices.
 
 Congratulations Bill on passing the general and extra in one sitting and
 welcome to our world.  It's a fantastic place!  
 
 73 - Pete - K7WTG
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Blomgren [mailto:billb...@nc.rr.com] 
 Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:52 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Kit or factory assembled K3? and what options?
 
 
 I've built LOTS of electronics over the years... but frankly I'm not sure I
 have enough time to build a K3.. (which is what I'm currently looking
 at..) - or a KX3.
 
 My problem: deciding which options will be useful.  I've never done hf... 
 I've been a broadcaster (with 20kw into 4 heliax with an antenna way up
 theree.. or a pile of verticals that I never have to touch because the
 tuning was done correctly N years ago  I had the Tech for 2 months, and
 with my background splurged on taking both the general and extra.. and
 somehow managed to pass both.  (Thanks to the DurHamFest and their VE's!)
 
 I'm not sure what will be needed at this point.  Right now, I don't 'do' 
 code. Never learned it.  I will eventually pick it up, but not right at
 first... Computer? but of course... That's the sort of stuff I do for a
 living, so morse from keyboard? No issue.  Reading what comes back?  The
 computer can handle that.
 
 Pactor?  Shoot.. I'm a tcp/ip junkie... it's not IP, but it is a packet from
 point A to someplace else.. Can do.
 
 Other that that.. I'm really not sure what options will be required in a 100
 watt/living in an apartment with resulting ugly antenna issue world will
 need.  Obviously the antenna tuner, but what else is everyone finding
 useful. (I can skip the 2 meter add on for the time being... probably can
 find a 6 meter antenna I can fudge into functionality.. SOMETHING for 20 to
 6 meters perhaps...or 20 through 10... Again, not sure what will be needed.
 
 Naturally, if you ask Elecraft, you will get a system with every possible
 bell and whistle.. but is it all something a newb will use? 
 
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