Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question
I'm replying to this from the digest! There are two ways of taking the digest. With good mail programs, the best way is the MIME digest format. Although the details may vary, good mail programs will allow you to decompose the digest. In the case of Thunderbird/Iceweasel, it displays the concatenated messages, with specially formatted header lines, and provides access to the individual messages as though they were attachments. There is a minor bug in that, when replying to a reply, Thunderbird adds an extra "Re:", but that is easily fixed. Doing it this way, rather than just editing out the rest of the digest, has the added advantage that a correct In-Reply-To header is sent, that can help threading readers. (What I really hate is where people ignore the warning at the top of the digest, and simply copy the whole digest, or that part after the message to which they are responding. That cuts short the next digest and also forces one to plough through lots of old postings, possibly to find that the culprit has overflowed the digest size limit and there are no more real items in the digest.) -- David Woolley Owner K2 06123 On 30/06/18 15:09, Lee Murrah wrote: I am receiving messages in the digest mode. I see that most replies to topics include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line in the form you would expect when replying to an email. However, there is no way to reply directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I know. How can I do this? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question
I monitor the list on Nabble and reply from there like I am doing now. Prevents a lot of inbox clutter. 73, John N1JM Lee Murrah wrote > I am receiving messages in the digest mode. I see that most replies to > topics include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line > in the form you would expect when replying to an email. However, there is > no way to reply directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject > line as far as I know. How can I do this? > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto: > Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to > lists+1215531472858-365791@.nabble -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question
Lee, I get the digest too, and the Elecraft reflect includes the messages as attachments. I'm not sure what email program you're using, as I use Thunderbird, and it does this. What I do is if I find a message I want to reply to I look at the list, get an idea of which message it is in the attachement list and double click on it. It then comes up as a standard message I can click the reply button on. I then delete all other emails listed other than the Elecraft reflector and add my reply. This works for me, YMMV. Neil, KN3ILZ On 6/30/2018 10:09 AM, Lee Murrah wrote: I am receiving messages in the digest mode. I see that most replies to topics include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line in the form you would expect when replying to an email. However, there is no way to reply directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I know. How can I do this? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question
That is why I believe it is easier to receive the individual emails. Create an "Elecraft" folder in your email program and set a filter send everything with [Elecraft] in the subject line to that folder. You then have your own "digest" and can reply to the individual emails. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/30/2018 11:08 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote: You will have to manually cut out all parts of the digest that aren't relative to the message to which you want to reply. Include only enough of the message you are replying to for context. You will also have to copy and paste the subject line from the message in to the Subject line field of the new message. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question
On 2018-06-30 10:09 AM, Lee Murrah wrote: I am receiving messages in the digest mode. I see that most replies to topics include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line in the form you would expect when replying to an email. However, there is no way to reply directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I know. How can I do this? You will have to manually cut out all parts of the digest that aren't relative to the message to which you want to reply. Include only enough of the message you are replying to for context. You will also have to copy and paste the subject line from the message in to the Subject line field of the new message. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question
Lee, At the bottom of each individual post are links to the mail server. Follow the first link (Elecraft mailing list Home: ...), scroll down a bit to where it asks if you want your mail sent to you in digest form. Click the NO circle and send your updated preference. Doug H K7CUU From: Lee Murrah I am receiving messages in the digest mode. I see that most replies to topics include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line in the form you would expect when replying to an email. However, there is no way to reply directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I know. How can I do this? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d_hud...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question
I am receiving messages in the digest mode. I see that most replies to topics include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line in the form you would expect when replying to an email. However, there is no way to reply directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I know. How can I do this? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working?
Interesting - not working on Win 7 machines or the Win 10 machines. Maybe Time Warner views the list as vermin and has it blocked. All else is working here and it is not a cache problem either. Not the first time this has happened - it takes care of itself after a few days. Maybe it will this time also. I even dumped the router/modem - no joy there, just wasted time. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working?
Bill, I have extensive experience getting email delivered in a commercial setting for our product that sends 1000s of status and report emails per day. While it is wrong to blame the actual recipient, delivery problems are almost always related to the recipient's email service, often an ISP of company. We see this every day where we can see that our email servers have delivered the email to the recipient's email server and yet the user never has it delivered to his or her inbox. The usual reason is related to anti-spam measures that ISPs employ. Most now discard a good percentage of inbound email without even bothering to place it in a spam folder. Sometimes, like gmail does all the time, the email is quarantined either for a period of time or indefinitely pending manual release. This is often done to see if this is a an email that is being sent to many other recipients at the ISP, in which case it is probably spam. Others are more helpful, sending our servers a rejection message saying things line "Blacklisted" or "violates local email policy" or something similar. Other times it is a temporary error of some sort and we get rejections saying "excessive email rate", "user not found" or "mailbox full". We can often see that this is an error, because after some number of attempts or a few days, the "User is again found". My point is that in all these cases, the delivery is failing on the "user's side of the internet" even if they have no direct control of the receiving email server. And short of coordinating with the ISP to get whitelisted, there is not a lot the sender can do. Regards, - Brendon KK6AYI On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Bill wrote: > I always chuckle how it is always the user's fault When the ISP chokes on > an email - the message you get is to "resend the proper password" - or some > such indicator that it is the user's fault. That appears to be the attitude > with this list. The problem is with the user. At least, that is how I would > interpret all those direct emails I received from other users. > > Got news - in this case (and most cases) it was not. > > This morning the list spit a bunch of messages out - but is still not > completely up to date. Nothing was done here to cause this. Hence, the > problem lies some place between the mailman.qth.net and the local ISP. > Makes me think that mail-archive.com has a propagation problem. This is > not an issue that will ever be solved by the user. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bren...@whateley.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working?
Must be on your side somewhere. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > On Mar 18, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Bill wrote: > > Is the mail list not working or is it on my side? Last post I see was on the > 15th. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working?
On 3/19/2016 8:37 AM, Bill wrote: Makes me think that mail-archive.com has a propagation problem. This is not an issue that will ever be solved by the user. Maybe you should be receiving the list *directly from Mailman* and not using an intermediary server/service like mail-archive.com. I do not see any issues with the direct e-mail. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working?
I always chuckle how it is always the user's fault When the ISP chokes on an email - the message you get is to "resend the proper password" - or some such indicator that it is the user's fault. That appears to be the attitude with this list. The problem is with the user. At least, that is how I would interpret all those direct emails I received from other users. Got news - in this case (and most cases) it was not. This morning the list spit a bunch of messages out - but is still not completely up to date. Nothing was done here to cause this. Hence, the problem lies some place between the mailman.qth.net and the local ISP. Makes me think that mail-archive.com has a propagation problem. This is not an issue that will ever be solved by the user. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Mail list not working?
Is the mail list not working or is it on my side? Last post I see was on the 15th. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working?
You can always read the posts in the archives: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2016-March/date.html John KK9A Bill w2blc at nycap.rr.com Fri Mar 18 14:27:29 EDT 2016 [Elecraft] Mail list not working? Interesting - not working on Win 7 machines or the Win 10 machines. Maybe Time Warner views the list as vermin and has it blocked. All else is working here and it is not a cache problem either. Not the first time this has happened - it takes care of itself after a few days. Maybe it will this time also. I even dumped the router/modem - no joy there, just wasted time. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working?
Working on my windows 10 desktop, my windows 7 laptop, my Apple IPADMini, and my Galaxy S6 Android phone. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:27 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working? Interesting - not working on Win 7 machines or the Win 10 machines. Maybe Time Warner views the list as vermin and has it blocked. All else is working here and it is not a cache problem either. Not the first time this has happened - it takes care of itself after a few days. Maybe it will this time also. I even dumped the router/modem - no joy there, just wasted time. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@carolinaheli.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list not working?
Working OK in Montana ... 73 K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list
Go to the "Home:" link that can be found at the bottom of every post. Put in your password and edit your subscription as you desire. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/29/2015 11:48 AM, Richard Fredrickson via Elecraft wrote: New to this system. How do I unsubscribe to the mail list? Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mail list
Click on the Home link attached to every post. > On Oct 29, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Richard Fredrickson via Elecraft > wrote: > > New to this system. How do I unsubscribe to the mail list? Thanks. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mhv...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Mail list
New to this system. How do I unsubscribe to the mail list? Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Mail list
Fellow Elecraft owners, It seems that about every 6 months or so I make my post to the list. My mail rules would work very well if everyone would use the suggested format for the subject line. I quote: 4b. When emailing about a specific rig or option, please add the rig/option name(s) to the first part of your email subject line. (K1, K2, K3, KX1 etc.) This will be a huge help for those experiencing email overload and will allow automatic filtering based on subject line. Examples: "Subject: [K3] Filter Options" "Subject: [KX1] How to use ped portable?" "Subject: [XG2] Wow! Its a big help. My apologies for the interruption and bandwidth. Back to the DELETE key. Regards, Jay AJ4AY Mobile, AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Mail list
Wayne/eric Are you guys going to set up a mail list letting us know when we can order the 100w amp, just like you did for the KX3? a 'kosher ham' Robert __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Mail List Guidelines
Eric Thanks for posting that list, being a newer member less than a year had not saw it before. Should I have found it before and been aware it? I may have done one or 2 of those things but will not be doing them again if I can remember to not do so, I am affected with CRS on some days. Thx & 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Ways to View the Elecraft Mail List
I find it easy to view the mail list via browser on the qth.net site. http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2012-October/date.html This method saves having to sort through individual emails. However, it doesn't sort by topic as some prefer. There are other sources for viewing as well. 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft mail list test message
This is a test message to verify posting to the list. 73, John/K8AZT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] mail list troubles
Hello, After the May list server crash, I was reset to getting individual emails instead of digest and my password was changed to one supplied. I am able to log in with the password, but when I attempt a change to either th password of the digest mode option, it brings me back to the login screen and no change is made. Any ideas on this one? Thanks, Russ W9EL _ Overwhelmed by debt? Find out how to Dig Yourself Out of Debt from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0407debt.armx ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
