Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread David Cutter
Hello Ed

I tried adding further attenuators to a low output sig gen several times in 
the past and found that the enclosure leakage was higher than the output 
signal.  My solution was to place the sig gen several feet away in a deep 
metal housing with very good coax and then use the attenuators at the work 
bench.  With remote pc control this might be useful to you.  I'd be 
interested to know how you get on.

73

David
G3UNA

 *Note: I have two 20-dB and one 30-dB step attenuator so I may be
 able to reduce the level for testing at -150 dBm.

 The 0dBm level may be strong enough for use with a rotating dipole
 for calibrating my 2m-eme dual-polarity receiver channels (about 130
 feet of space loss).  I have signal sources for 1296, 1420, and 2401
 MHz that runs approx. 0 dBm and are detectable over that range.

 Very nice tool, Wayne.  Guess I will have to get one.


 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Wayne, will the software to do this be available for Mac OSX?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
-- 
Ideas are like rabbits. You get a couple and learn how to handle them, and
pretty soon you have a dozen.
--John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)

On 13 Apr 2011, at 21:31, Wayne Burdick wrote:

 Any of the band switches can be programmed to cover any frequency in  
 the 1.5 to 200 MHz range (or higher, using harmonics) by connecting a  
 PC to the unit.

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Adrian

 As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.
 But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W
 QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.

 Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

Wayne would it be possible to provide a click-able link on the picture;

http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3v2%20100.jpg

to a larger picture so we can see the detail please?

Adrian ... vk4tux
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
go look at the manual : 
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev%20B.pdf
- front page has BIG picture
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think
we're not. In either case, the idea is quite staggering.
-Arthur C Clarke, science fiction writer (1917- )

On 14 Apr 2011, at 10:08, Adrian wrote:
 Wayne would it be possible to provide a click-able link on the picture;
 
 http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3v2%20100.jpg
 
 to a larger picture so we can see the detail please?

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Terry Schieler
Forgive me if I missed this, but the web site shows the available XG3 as
assembled.  Can we anticipate a kit version at a later date?

Great product!

73,

Terry, W0FM



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RS-232. The cable is included.

73, Eric


On 4/13/2011 3:33 PM, ab2tc wrote:
 Hi,

 Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
 have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure
out
 from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What
is
 the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

 AB2TC - Knut


 AC7AC wrote:
 I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That RF
 is
 a square wave with very rich harmonics!

 Ron AC7AC




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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
I will add this this morning.
Eric


On 4/14/2011 2:08 AM, Adrian wrote:


  As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.
  But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W
  QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.
 
  Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.
 
  73,
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
 Wayne would it be possible to provide a click-able link on the picture;

 http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3v2%20100.jpg

 to a larger picture so we can see the detail please?

 Adrian ... vk4tux

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The image of the XG3 on the order form is now clickable and opens a high 
resolution picture of the XG3 (1.8 MB).

The direct link to the picture is:
http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3_1200%20.jpg

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
www.elecraft.com



On 4/14/2011 9:34 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 I will add this this morning.
 Eric


 On 4/14/2011 2:08 AM, Adrian wrote:

 As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.
 But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W
 QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.

 Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

 Wayne would it be possible to provide a click-able link on the picture;

 http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3v2%20100.jpg

 to a larger picture so we can see the detail please?

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Its now up on the web site on the new XG3 info page:
http://www.elecraft.com/XG3/xg3.htm

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
www.elecraft.com

On 4/14/2011 10:11 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
 Eric,
 would you please see that the XG3 utility program gets posted 
 somewhere on the site if it hasn't been already.  Went looking for it 
 earlier and didn't find anything.  Manual states it's on the site -
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Eric, are there plans to make a OSX version?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your 
enthusiasm. - Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965).

On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

 Its now up on the web site on the new XG3 info page:
 http://www.elecraft.com/XG3/xg3.htm

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread n5ge

Cycles are oscillation measurements.

Mr Herz was a man who passed away many years ago.

I prefer the use of cycles, because they indicate the exact type of the
measurement, but I'm just an old geezer who prefers many aspects of the old
days.

Glad to hear that my selling of the old HP Analog Signal generator was a good
idea.

Tom
N5GE

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:08:00 -0600, Doug Person k0...@aol.com wrote:

10 megacycle?  Did you just step through a time portal from the 60's?

Doug -- K0DXV


On 4/13/2011 4:33 PM, pcbyrne wrote:
 10 megacycle

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I sympathize with Tom. We honor people by adopting their name for
measurements and thereby lose what the original designations provided.

Of course back in the 50's and 60's there were many who objected if we
didn't use the complete designation including the time as in cycles per
second, and so on. 

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-



Cycles are oscillation measurements.

Mr Herz was a man who passed away many years ago.

I prefer the use of cycles, because they indicate the exact type of the
measurement, but I'm just an old geezer who prefers many aspects of the old
days.

Glad to hear that my selling of the old HP Analog Signal generator was a
good
idea.

Tom
N5GE

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:08:00 -0600, Doug Person k0...@aol.com wrote:

10 megacycle?  Did you just step through a time portal from the 60's?

Doug -- K0DXV


On 4/13/2011 4:33 PM, pcbyrne wrote:
 10 megacycle

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Kevin Rock
Not many people at all would understand the measure of inverse seconds.   
Hz or cps are measured in 1/s increments.
Kevin.  KD5ONS


On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:41:41 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 I sympathize with Tom. We honor people by adopting their name for
 measurements and thereby lose what the original designations provided.

 Of course back in the 50's and 60's there were many who objected if we
 didn't use the complete designation including the time as in cycles per
 second, and so on.

 Ron AC7AC
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread James Maynard
You are an old English-speaking geezer (or at least an American-speaking 
geezer.)  But the modern metric system (SI, the International System of 
Units) tries to name derived units after people so as to avoid the 
problem of cycle per second not translating well into other 
languages.  (In not all languages does the word for cycle start with 
the letter c.  After all, it was the French, not the English, who 
first introduced the metric system.

That's why this English-speaking (and French- and German-reading) geezer 
likes to follow the metric system style guide, found at
http://www.bipm.org/utils/common/pdf/si_brochure_8_en.pdf.

Jim, K7KK -- K3 #5263
Ignorance is the Mother of Adventure! -- Hagar the Horrible

On 2011-04-14 07:24 PM, n...@n5ge.com wrote:
 Cycles are oscillation measurements.

 Mr Herz was a man who passed away many years ago.

 I prefer the use of cycles, because they indicate the exact type of the
 measurement, but I'm just an old geezer who prefers many aspects of the old
 days.

 Tom
 N5GE


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Wes Stewart
You mean like kilo Megacycles per second.

--- On Thu, 4/14/11, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz

 I sympathize with Tom. We honor
 people by adopting their name for
 measurements and thereby lose what the original
 designations provided.
 
 Of course back in the 50's and 60's there were many who
 objected if we
 didn't use the complete designation including the time as
 in cycles per
 second, and so on. 
 
 Ron AC7AC
 
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[Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)  
synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of  
-107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm.

You can find the XG3 on our order page:

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm

There a high-resolution color photo of the unit on the cover of the  
XG3 manual:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev 
%20B.pdf

Built into a T1-sized enclosure, the XG3 runs on an internal 9-V  
battery or from an external power supply. Auto power-off is provided  
to save battery life, but you can override this when necessary.

The XG3 includes band switches and LED indicators for 160-2 meters.  
Harmonics of the output can be used to produce signals on bands well  
into the microwave range.

Any of the band switches can be programmed to cover any frequency in  
the 1.5 to 200 MHz range (or higher, using harmonics) by connecting a  
PC to the unit. Resolution is 1 Hz on all bands. You can set up  
frequency sweeps over any range, and even use the XG3 as a VFO or  
local oscillator for homebrew projects. The PC application can also be  
used to update the unit's firmware.

The primary use of the XG3 is for receiver calibration, sensitivity  
testing, and signal tracing. However, since it's very small,  
lightweight, and rugged, it's also useful outdoors--for antenna  
evaluation, field strength measurements, micro-power beacons, etc.

Please refer to the XG3 manual for additional details.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
The XG3 manual link in my last email may have been broken. Here it is  
again:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev%20B.pdf

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Jim Sheldon
That thing really looks nice -- I need one and have already downloaded the 
manual and placed my order.  Perfect piece of test equipment for the shack and 
portable operations.

Jim - W0EB
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
Jim Sheldon wrote:

 That thing really looks nice  Perfect piece of test equipment  
 for the shack and portable operations.

It'll do the job of a 50-pound wide-range signal generator in many  
cases. That may be why everyone at Elecraft headquarters keeps  
borrowing them from everyone else. Good thing we finally have them in  
stock :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Also note that the XG3 is computer controllable and that we provide a 
control and download utility that will be down-loadable from the web site.

73, Eric


On 4/13/2011 1:31 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)
 synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of
 -107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm.

 You can find the XG3 on our order page:

  http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm

 There a high-resolution color photo of the unit on the cover of the
 XG3 manual:

  http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev
 %20B.pdf

 Built into a T1-sized enclosure, the XG3 runs on an internal 9-V
 battery or from an external power supply. Auto power-off is provided
 to save battery life, but you can override this when necessary.

 The XG3 includes band switches and LED indicators for 160-2 meters.
 Harmonics of the output can be used to produce signals on bands well
 into the microwave range.

 Any of the band switches can be programmed to cover any frequency in
 the 1.5 to 200 MHz range (or higher, using harmonics) by connecting a
 PC to the unit. Resolution is 1 Hz on all bands. You can set up
 frequency sweeps over any range, and even use the XG3 as a VFO or
 local oscillator for homebrew projects. The PC application can also be
 used to update the unit's firmware.

 The primary use of the XG3 is for receiver calibration, sensitivity
 testing, and signal tracing. However, since it's very small,
 lightweight, and rugged, it's also useful outdoors--for antenna
 evaluation, field strength measurements, micro-power beacons, etc.

 Please refer to the XG3 manual for additional details.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread David Gilbert

Any chance the XG3 utility could also control the K3?  Set frequency on 
both pieces of gear and read K3 S-meter or dbV values, saving them to a 
log file ... like a tracking generator.  You'd have to be able to 
communicate via two ports, of course.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 4/13/2011 1:43 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Jim Sheldon wrote:

 That thing really looks nice  Perfect piece of test equipment
 for the shack and portable operations.
 It'll do the job of a 50-pound wide-range signal generator in many
 cases. That may be why everyone at Elecraft headquarters keeps
 borrowing them from everyone else. Good thing we finally have them in
 stock :)

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Rick Dettinger
0 dbm.  OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter.  Is it type accepted? :-)

73,

Rick Dettinger  K7MW



On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

 The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)
 synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of
 -107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm.

 You can find the XG3 on our order page:

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm

 There a high-resolution color photo of the unit on the cover of the
 XG3 manual:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev
 %20B.pdf

 Built into a T1-sized enclosure, the XG3 runs on an internal 9-V
 battery or from an external power supply. Auto power-off is provided
 to save battery life, but you can override this when necessary.

 The XG3 includes band switches and LED indicators for 160-2 meters.
 Harmonics of the output can be used to produce signals on bands well
 into the microwave range.

 Any of the band switches can be programmed to cover any frequency in
 the 1.5 to 200 MHz range (or higher, using harmonics) by connecting a
 PC to the unit. Resolution is 1 Hz on all bands. You can set up
 frequency sweeps over any range, and even use the XG3 as a VFO or
 local oscillator for homebrew projects. The PC application can also be
 used to update the unit's firmware.

 The primary use of the XG3 is for receiver calibration, sensitivity
 testing, and signal tracing. However, since it's very small,
 lightweight, and rugged, it's also useful outdoors--for antenna
 evaluation, field strength measurements, micro-power beacons, etc.

 Please refer to the XG3 manual for additional details.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
Rick Dettinger wrote:

 0 dbm.  OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter

You could key it from a PC with a couple of RS232 commands, although  
the keying won't be shaped unless you do it externally.

As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.  
But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W  
QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.

Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That RF is
a square wave with very rich harmonics! 

Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:29 PM
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Cc: Elecraft Elecraft; QRP-L; elecr...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

0 dbm.  OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter.  Is it type accepted? :-)

73,

Rick Dettinger  K7MW


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out
from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is
the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

AB2TC - Knut


AC7AC wrote:
 
 I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That RF
 is
 a square wave with very rich harmonics! 
 
 Ron AC7AC
 
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread pcbyrne
Got my order in for both the XG3 and the phase lock board for the 2 meter
module. One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a
precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator.  I
have a new XG2 kit that I will sell for $55.00 shipped anywhere in the
CONUS.

 

Palmer   W7NMD

870-656-6100

 

  _  

From: wayne burdick [via Elecraft]
[mailto:ml-node+6270541-826986284-157...@n2.nabble.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:32 PM
To: pcbyrne
Subject: New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

 

The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)   
synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of   
-107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm. 

You can find the XG3 on our order page: 



snip

. 



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wes Stewart
It says RS-232 on p.8 of the manual.

--- On Wed, 4/13/11, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote:

 From: ab2tc ab...@arrl.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:33 PM
 Hi,
 
 Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an
 order for one as I
 have been looking for something like this for a while. I
 couldn't figure out
 from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer
 interface. What is
 the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special
 cable for it?
 
 AB2TC - Knut
 
 
 AC7AC wrote:
  
  I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass
 filter. That RF
  is
  a square wave with very rich harmonics! 
  
  Ron AC7AC
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Greg
It also says the RS232 cable is included.

73
Greg

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It says RS-232 on p.8 of the manual.

 --- On Wed, 4/13/11, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote:

  From: ab2tc ab...@arrl.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal
 Source
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:33 PM
   Hi,
 
  Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an
  order for one as I
  have been looking for something like this for a while. I
  couldn't figure out
  from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer
  interface. What is
  the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special
  cable for it?
 
  AB2TC - Knut
 
 
  AC7AC wrote:
  
   I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass
  filter. That RF
   is
   a square wave with very rich harmonics!
  
   Ron AC7AC
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Palmer C Byrne
Got my order in for both the XG3 and the phase lock board for the 2 meter
module. One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a
precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator.  I
have a new XG2 kit that I will sell for $55.00 shipped anywhere in the
CONUS.

 

Palmer   W7NMD

870-656-6100

 

  _  

From: wayne burdick [via Elecraft]
[mailto:ml-node+6270541-826986284-157...@n2.nabble.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:32 PM
To: pcbyrne
Subject: New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

 

The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher)   
synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of   
-107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm. 

You can find the XG3 on our order page: 

snip

. 

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Oops, an oversight. I don't know if it's supplied with the XG3, but the
interface cable is the same as that used for the W2 wattmeter. See:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2_Owners_Manual_Rev_B.pdf

Page 25 (last page in the manual). 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-


Hi,

Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out
from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is
the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

AB2TC - Knut



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I just confirmed that you *will* get the RS232 interface cable with you XG3.
I'll add the schematic and that fact to the manual. 

Ron AC7AC

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

Hi,

Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out
from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is
the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

AB2TC - Knut



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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Doug Person
10 megacycle?  Did you just step through a time portal from the 60's?

Doug -- K0DXV


On 4/13/2011 4:33 PM, pcbyrne wrote:
 10 megacycle

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread FredJensen
On 4/13/2011 10:54 PM, pcbyrne wrote:
 One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a
 precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator.
I think this is a first for the list.  XG3 announced and in less than 24 
hours [actually I think less than 12], a mod suggestion. :-D

If I didn't already have a service monitor, I'd have the stock XG3 on order.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yeah. I forgot that it does say that under computer control. Next rev of the
manual will include the schematic for the curious and an easier-to-find
statement that the cable is supplied. 

Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:54 PM
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Cc: ab2tc; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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It also says the RS232 cable is included.

73
Greg


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[Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Edward R. Cole
Very Nice and a lot cheaper and more portable than most signal 
generators.  432.66 is third harmonic of 144.22 and 9th harmonic 
falls on 1297.98 (a little high for 1296 but may be usable).  But if 
the frequency can be moved by computer control, then very useful.  I 
like that it will go down to -107 dBm (my 2m eme threshold is -152 
dBm*).  The harmonic energy should be 1/n in level if true to most 
devices like a diode.  50ppm implies 144.22 x 50 Hz = 7211 or about 7 
KHz at 2m.

*Note: I have two 20-dB and one 30-dB step attenuator so I may be 
able to reduce the level for testing at -150 dBm.

The 0dBm level may be strong enough for use with a rotating dipole 
for calibrating my 2m-eme dual-polarity receiver channels (about 130 
feet of space loss).  I have signal sources for 1296, 1420, and 2401 
MHz that runs approx. 0 dBm and are detectable over that range.

Very nice tool, Wayne.  Guess I will have to get one.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
RS-232. The cable is included.

73, Eric


On 4/13/2011 3:33 PM, ab2tc wrote:
 Hi,

 Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
 have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out
 from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is
 the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

 AB2TC - Knut


 AC7AC wrote:
 I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That RF
 is
 a square wave with very rich harmonics!

 Ron AC7AC




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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Bill (K9YEQ)
Wayne, 

Did you leave room inside for an SSB SMD board and micro tuner?  I ordered
one so I just need to know.  I also did the 144 transverter mod just after
noting the email for the former.  In the meantime you guys slipped me a head
fake with the 144 mod so I called! I hope I don't miss anything coming out
tomorrow in this order.  Like a remote 1.5 KW tuner.  :-)

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:36 PM
To: Rick Dettinger
Cc: Elecraft Elecraft; QRP-L; elecr...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

Rick Dettinger wrote:

 0 dbm.  OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter

You could key it from a PC with a couple of RS232 commands, although the
keying won't be shaped unless you do it externally.

As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet.  
But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W QRP
rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3.

Suitable antenna design is left to the reader.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Jim Rhodes
Looks like the same cable as the W1?? Seems to be same type of jack anyway.

Jim K0XU
Sent from my Droid X
On Apr 13, 2011 5:33 PM, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote:
 Hi,

 Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I
 have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure
out
 from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What
is
 the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

 AB2TC - Knut


 AC7AC wrote:

 I had the same reaction, but don't forget the low-pass filter. That RF
 is
 a square wave with very rich harmonics!

 Ron AC7AC





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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Champine
Quick question.
So I can use the XG3 for alignment on all of my kits rather than using
another transceiver for that. Correct?
Sounds like it to me and if so, I am going to love it. I like to build kits
a lot. Have to hold off till next payday to order one,
I was thinking about getting the XG2 for alignment but it didn't cover all
the bands I use so I just used my 897D. The XG3 sounds much more easy to use
for that :-) Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks Elecraft and thanks to
all.

73 de W2EEC

Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yes, and its included with the XG3.
73,
Eric


On 4/13/2011 5:16 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
 Looks like the same cable as the W1?? Seems to be same type of jack anyway.

 Jim K0XU
   
 On Apr 13, 2011 5:33 PM, ab2tcab...@arrl.net  wrote:
   I couldn't figure out
 from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What
 is the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for it?

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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Eric,
That's exactly the idea. :-)

73, Eric   WA6HHQ


On 4/13/2011 5:27 PM, Eric Champine wrote:
 Quick question.
 So I can use the XG3 for alignment on all of my kits rather than using
 another transceiver for that. Correct?
 Sounds like it to me and if so, I am going to love it. I like to build kits
 a lot. Have to hold off till next payday to order one,
 I was thinking about getting the XG2 for alignment but it didn't cover all
 the bands I use so I just used my 897D. The XG3 sounds much more easy to use
 for that :-) Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks Elecraft and thanks to
 all.

 73 de W2EEC
 Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yes, the 12 frequencies selectable from the front panel buttons can be
stored using your computer for stand-alone use, or the computer can
operate the XG3, giving you access to any frequency in from 1.5 to 200 MHz
in 1 Hz steps. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R. Cole
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:16 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

Very Nice and a lot cheaper and more portable than most signal 
generators.  432.66 is third harmonic of 144.22 and 9th harmonic 
falls on 1297.98 (a little high for 1296 but may be usable).  But if 
the frequency can be moved by computer control, then very useful.  I 
like that it will go down to -107 dBm (my 2m eme threshold is -152 
dBm*).  The harmonic energy should be 1/n in level if true to most 
devices like a diode.  50ppm implies 144.22 x 50 Hz = 7211 or about 7 
KHz at 2m.

*Note: I have two 20-dB and one 30-dB step attenuator so I may be 
able to reduce the level for testing at -150 dBm.

The 0dBm level may be strong enough for use with a rotating dipole 
for calibrating my 2m-eme dual-polarity receiver channels (about 130 
feet of space loss).  I have signal sources for 1296, 1420, and 2401 
MHz that runs approx. 0 dBm and are detectable over that range.

Very nice tool, Wayne.  Guess I will have to get one.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
==
BP40IQ   500 KHz - 10-GHz   www.kl7uw.com
EME: 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-winter?
DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com
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[Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Johnny Siu
Hi Ron,

It seems to me that I have to hand carry quite a lot of Elecraft gears back to 
Hong Kong after Dayton.
 TNX  73, 


Johnny VR2XMC 





寄件人﹕ Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
收件人﹕ Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
傳送日期﹕ 2011/4/14 (四) 10:37:15 AM
主題: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

Yes, the 12 frequencies selectable from the front panel buttons can be
stored using your computer for stand-alone use, or the computer can
operate the XG3, giving you access to any frequency in from 1.5 to 200 MHz
in 1 Hz steps. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R. Cole
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:16 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

Very Nice and a lot cheaper and more portable than most signal 
generators.  432.66 is third harmonic of 144.22 and 9th harmonic 
falls on 1297.98 (a little high for 1296 but may be usable).  But if 
the frequency can be moved by computer control, then very useful.  I 
like that it will go down to -107 dBm (my 2m eme threshold is -152 
dBm*).  The harmonic energy should be 1/n in level if true to most 
devices like a diode.  50ppm implies 144.22 x 50 Hz = 7211 or about 7 
KHz at 2m.

*Note: I have two 20-dB and one 30-dB step attenuator so I may be 
able to reduce the level for testing at -150 dBm.

The 0dBm level may be strong enough for use with a rotating dipole 
for calibrating my 2m-eme dual-polarity receiver channels (about 130 
feet of space loss).  I have signal sources for 1296, 1420, and 2401 
MHz that runs approx. 0 dBm and are detectable over that range.

Very nice tool, Wayne.  Guess I will have to get one.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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