Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-04 Thread Goody K3NG
My last business trip I used an old Barker  Williamson apartment 
antenna from the 6th floor.  They offer a newer model today (AP-10) that 
is basically the same thing with a tapped coil.  This antenna is good if 
you have a balcony or a window that opens without a screen.


On a previous trip I tried a wire down the side of the hotel from the 
third floor with a ground counterpoise in the room.  It was a dummy load.


I've heard of many people using two Slinkies for a shortened 40m 
dipole.  I've been told stretched out six or eight feet they resonate on 40.


As others have mentioned, operating from hotels is a crap shoot.  You're 
never sure what windows you're going to have in a room and there's noise 
sources galore.  Make sure you have a rental car or it's open bar at the 
conferences if ham radio operating is a bust :-)


Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:

OT I know, but it does relate to my K2 ;-)

Wondering if anyone on the list might have a recommendation for a simple QRP
antenna for use in a hotel? My wife is attending a conference in Chicago in
a couple of weeks and I'm going with. When she booked the hotel, I just
asked that we get a room as high as possible. I'm not sure what we got yet.

I'm taking my K2 (I bought a nice Pelican case for it a few months ago) and
a few spools of small enameled wire. I was thinking of just using a 65' end
fed with a 1/4 wavelength counterpoise for 40m operation. I've also done
some reading on the W3EDP antenna. 


Anyone have some decent experiences out there? Or, bad ones that I should
stay away from? 


Dave W8FGU
K2 #5099

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[Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-03 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
OT I know, but it does relate to my K2 ;-)

Wondering if anyone on the list might have a recommendation for a simple QRP
antenna for use in a hotel? My wife is attending a conference in Chicago in
a couple of weeks and I'm going with. When she booked the hotel, I just
asked that we get a room as high as possible. I'm not sure what we got yet.

I'm taking my K2 (I bought a nice Pelican case for it a few months ago) and
a few spools of small enameled wire. I was thinking of just using a 65' end
fed with a 1/4 wavelength counterpoise for 40m operation. I've also done
some reading on the W3EDP antenna. 

Anyone have some decent experiences out there? Or, bad ones that I should
stay away from? 

Dave W8FGU
K2 #5099

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-03 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Dave
One thing you will need is a way to hold the wire
away from the side of the building.  A telescoping
fishing pole would be the easiest to take along
and draw no comments.  You can stick it out a
window and let the thin wire hang down in the
clear.
Good luck and 73
Bob N6WG

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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna


 OT I know, but it does relate to my K2 ;-)

 Wondering if anyone on the list might have a recommendation for a simple
QRP
 antenna for use in a hotel? My wife is attending a conference in Chicago
in
 a couple of weeks and I'm going with. When she booked the hotel, I just
 asked that we get a room as high as possible. I'm not sure what we got
yet.

 I'm taking my K2 (I bought a nice Pelican case for it a few months ago)
and
 a few spools of small enameled wire. I was thinking of just using a 65'
end
 fed with a 1/4 wavelength counterpoise for 40m operation. I've also done
 some reading on the W3EDP antenna.

 Anyone have some decent experiences out there? Or, bad ones that I should
 stay away from?

 Dave W8FGU
 K2 #5099

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-03 Thread K9ZTV
Unless your hotel is considerably dated, you won't be able to even open 
a window, let along get an antenna out.


There is so much wiring, piping, metal, conduit, and internal noise in a 
hotel, especially a high-rise, that you're not going to hear anything 
anyway.


I've tied many times over the years and consider it a bust.

K9ZTV



Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:


OT I know, but it does relate to my K2 ;-)

Wondering if anyone on the list might have a recommendation for a simple QRP
antenna for use in a hotel? My wife is attending a conference in Chicago in
a couple of weeks and I'm going with. When she booked the hotel, I just
asked that we get a room as high as possible. I'm not sure what we got yet.

I'm taking my K2 (I bought a nice Pelican case for it a few months ago) and
a few spools of small enameled wire. I was thinking of just using a 65' end
fed with a 1/4 wavelength counterpoise for 40m operation. I've also done
some reading on the W3EDP antenna. 


Anyone have some decent experiences out there? Or, bad ones that I should
stay away from? 


Dave W8FGU
K2 #5099

 


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-03 Thread Joe-aa4nn

Maybe a room on the south side.
The biferglass crappie pole is a good idea.
de Joe, aa4nn

My wife is attending a conference in Chicago in

a couple of weeks and I'm going with. When she booked the hotel, I just
asked that we get a room as high as possible. I'm not sure what we got 
yet.


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-03 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:


OT I know, but it does relate to my K2 ;-)

Wondering if anyone on the list might have a recommendation for a  
simple QRP
antenna for use in a hotel? My wife is attending a conference in  
Chicago in
a couple of weeks and I'm going with. When she booked the hotel, I  
just
asked that we get a room as high as possible. I'm not sure what we  
got yet.


I'm taking my K2 (I bought a nice Pelican case for it a few months  
ago) and
a few spools of small enameled wire. I was thinking of just using a  
65' end
fed with a 1/4 wavelength counterpoise for 40m operation. I've also  
done

some reading on the W3EDP antenna.

Anyone have some decent experiences out there? Or, bad ones that I  
should

stay away from?



I used a Superantennas MP2 (which Elecraft used to sell) with my K2  
from a 7th floor hotel room (6th floor as the Europeans count) in  
northeast France (Tourcoing) in 2004.  I was able to make contacts on  
20m all over Europe and also worked Tunisia and UAE (WPX contest  
weekend).  I located the antenna inside the room next to the window  
and used a 1/4 wave counterpoise laying on the floor.


Bob, N7XY
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RE: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-03 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen

Thanks for all the great replies on and off the list. Lots of good
suggestions. Now to see if I can get a room with a window that opens :-)

Thanks again and 73,
Dave W8FGU

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RE: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:25:44 -0400, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:

Now to see if I can get a room with a window that opens :-)

You'll have the best luck on this in an old fashioned hotel as 
opposed to a newer one. 

73,

Jim K9YC



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