Re: [Elecraft] OT: QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-04 Thread Jim Brown

On 7/3/2013 5:36 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

Not only that - the centroid of a zip code can be in a completely
different grid than a large portion of the population.  You'll
get close with the zip code but it will not be 100% reliable. 


Differences can be FAR greater than that.  I'm chasing the CQ Field 
award -- a Field is the first two letters of the grid.  For MANY DX 
listings, the default grid will be the geographic center of the COUNTRY, 
which for large countries (for example, Australia, Russia, Brazil) can 
be 1,000 miles from the actual QTH.


The good news is that qrz.com listings will tell you the source of the 
grid info -- DXCC, geocoded, or user supplied.  It's also possible to 
take an address, or the name of a city/town, and get close.  There are 
also several websites that convert lat/lon coordinates to grids.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] OT: QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-03 Thread Ken G Kopp
Someone wrote;  It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see
the qth.

This simply isn't true  be careful!

Unless corrected by the licensee, the QRZ listing and everything about
it depends on the FCC-supplied data.  If the address of record is a
P. O. Box, the location will depend solely on that information.  This
includes the grid square, county and in some cases is many miles
the licensee's actual location.

Butte, MT is split between two grid squares, and I have a friend who's
P. O. Box address ... and QRZ info ... is in a different grid square from
where he lives and operates.

A case in point ... I'm the trustee of our club's call (W7VNE).  As far
as anyone can recall it's -never- been on the air from it's QRZ location
-or- even county!  Yet, it's been used in FD for over 40 years, but in a
different (and somewhat rare) county.

Things aren't always how they appear ...

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
What Ken says is true, I live on the outer perimeter of the Wake Forest, 
NC mailing area, and based on my mailing address, QRZ.com initially 
listed me in grid square FM05 when I am actually in FM06 (FM06rb to be 
more specific).
Yes, I changed it at QRZ,com, bot many others in a similar situation may 
not change theirs.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/3/2013 8:12 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

Someone wrote;  It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see
the qth.

This simply isn't true  be careful!

Unless corrected by the licensee, the QRZ listing and everything about
it depends on the FCC-supplied data.  If the address of record is a
P. O. Box, the location will depend solely on that information.  This
includes the grid square, county and in some cases is many miles
the licensee's actual location.

Butte, MT is split between two grid squares, and I have a friend who's
P. O. Box address ... and QRZ info ... is in a different grid square from
where he lives and operates.

A case in point ... I'm the trustee of our club's call (W7VNE).  As far
as anyone can recall it's -never- been on the air from it's QRZ location
-or- even county!  Yet, it's been used in FD for over 40 years, but in a
different (and somewhat rare) county.

Things aren't always how they appear ...



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-03 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



Butte, MT is split between two grid squares, and I have a friend
who's P. O. Box address ... and QRZ info ... is in a different grid
square from where he lives and operates.


Not only that - the centroid of a zip code can be in a completely
different grid than a large portion of the population.  You'll
get close with the zip code but it will not be 100% reliable.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 7/3/2013 8:12 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

Someone wrote;  It is very simple to check the callsign on qrz.com and see
the qth.

This simply isn't true  be careful!

Unless corrected by the licensee, the QRZ listing and everything about
it depends on the FCC-supplied data.  If the address of record is a
P. O. Box, the location will depend solely on that information.  This
includes the grid square, county and in some cases is many miles
the licensee's actual location.

Butte, MT is split between two grid squares, and I have a friend who's
P. O. Box address ... and QRZ info ... is in a different grid square from
where he lives and operates.

A case in point ... I'm the trustee of our club's call (W7VNE).  As far
as anyone can recall it's -never- been on the air from it's QRZ location
-or- even county!  Yet, it's been used in FD for over 40 years, but in a
different (and somewhat rare) county.

Things aren't always how they appear ...

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-03 Thread mcduffie

How true, Ken.  I'll toss one out to you.  Last year, I started digging into 10
digit grid squares.  My shack is in a different square than my antenna, and
other antennas are in even different squares.  ;o)

Gary - DN81fv37ab
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QRZ.com locations caution

2013-07-03 Thread kevinr
I truly believe there is a cartographic rule stating that any feature of 
interest must be placed on the corner of the map :)

   73,
Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 7/3/2013 5:53 PM, mcduf...@ag0n.net wrote:

How true, Ken.  I'll toss one out to you.  Last year, I started digging into 10
digit grid squares.  My shack is in a different square than my antenna, and
other antennas are in even different squares.  ;o)

Gary - DN81fv37ab
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