[Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA" From Our Kingston Trio Days
What follows is in no way to be taken as anything negative to Elecraft, but here goes: I ordered a KUSB from Elecraft on April 13th, a Sunday, and received word that it shipped Tuesday evening, April 15th. The device has never arrived here in Williamsburg, about 60 miles from Sandston, VA, 13 days later. The tracking number yields the following very sad (to me at least) story of our tax dollars very, very hard at work, apparently keeping the US airline industry in the air. I apologize for the length, but it is what it is. At least I don't need to worry about my "Charlie" needing a sandwich as it passes and passes through the USPS distribution centers in Sandston and San Jose: April 26, 2014 , 1:54 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 25, 2014 , 7:25 pm Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 25, 2014 , 2:03 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 23, 2014 , 12:24 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility SAN JOSE, CA 95101 April 21, 2014 , 8:24 pm Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 21, 2014 Depart USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 20, 2014 , 11:51 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 18, 2014 , 10:45 pm Processed through USPS Sort Facility SAN JOSE, CA 95101 April 16, 2014 , 9:19 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility WATSONVILLE, CA 95076 April 15, 2014 Depart USPS Sort Facility SAN JOSE, CA 95101 April 15, 2014 , 10:48 pm Processed through USPS Sort Facility SAN JOSE, CA 95101 April 15, 2014 Electronic Shipping Info Received April 15, 2014 , 4:18 pm Acceptance WATSONVILLE, CA 95076 73, Ken, NU4I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA" From Our Kingston Trio Days
Our tax dollars don't support the USPS. And you'd have received you KUSB a lot sooner had you called USPS to ask about it at the first sign of trouble. Tracking info can be useful for something like this and you could've used it to your advantage. I guess that wouldn't have been the same story, though. 73, Scott, N9AA On 4/26/14 9:05 AM, Kenneth Moorman wrote: What follows is in no way to be taken as anything negative to Elecraft, but here goes: I ordered a KUSB from Elecraft on April 13th, a Sunday, and received word that it shipped Tuesday evening, April 15th. The device has never arrived here in Williamsburg, about 60 miles from Sandston, VA, 13 days later. The tracking number yields the following very sad (to me at least) story of our tax dollars very, very hard at work, apparently keeping the US airline industry in the air. I apologize for the length, but it is what it is. At least I don't need to worry about my "Charlie" needing a sandwich as it passes and passes through the USPS distribution centers in Sandston and San Jose: April 26, 2014 , 1:54 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 25, 2014 , 7:25 pm Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 25, 2014 , 2:03 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 23, 2014 , 12:24 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility SAN JOSE, CA 95101 April 21, 2014 , 8:24 pm Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 21, 2014 Depart USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 20, 2014 , 11:51 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility SANDSTON, VA 23150 April 18, 2014 , 10:45 pm Processed through USPS Sort Facility SAN JOSE, CA 95101 April 16, 2014 , 9:19 am Processed through USPS Sort Facility WATSONVILLE, CA 95076 April 15, 2014 Depart USPS Sort Facility SAN JOSE, CA 95101 April 15, 2014 , 10:48 pm Processed through USPS Sort Facility SAN JOSE, CA 95101 April 15, 2014 Electronic Shipping Info Received April 15, 2014 , 4:18 pm Acceptance WATSONVILLE, CA 95076 73, Ken, NU4I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days
My recently shipped Elecraft part arrived via USPS in three days time, from California to New Mexico, via who knows where. The United States Postal Service is a federal government agency. The authority for the creation of the Post Office is found in the U.S. Constitution at Article I, Section 8, which says, in part: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States… To establish post offices and post roads;" Yes, it’s in the same clause that allows Congress to tax us and to raise an army and a navy. US Postal Service workers are FEDERAL employees. The US Congress writes the rules, postal regulations and laws controlling the Post Office. a postal crime including graffiti on a post office wallis a FEDERAL CRIME. The U.S. Postal Service is, by law, an "independent establishment" of the executive branch. The agency doesn't normally use tax dollars for operations, except when it needs a loan to cover all the unfunded debt, it must, by Congressional act, get that loan from the US Treasury. The USPS CANNOT borrow money from a private lender. The Postal Service has been borrowing billions of dollars from taxpayers in recent years to make up shortfalls caused by declining mail volumes and a 2006 congressional mandate to prefund retirement health care benefits. If I destroy a mailbox, it is a federal offense. If I attack a mail person, it is a federal offense. If I rob a mail truck, it is a federal offense. And if your Elecraft part does not arrive in time, and does a 3-times-around tour of the good ol' USA, it is NOT a federal offense. 73, and enjoy the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS mail delivery since 1912. de Milt, N5IA -Original Message- From: Scott Manthe Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:58 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days Our tax dollars don't support the USPS. 73, Scott, N9AA - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7400 - Release Date: 04/26/14 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days
Re "the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS mail delivery since 1912": Yes, but they now deliver for Amazon on Sundays! Phil w7ox On 4/26/14, 1:37 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote: My recently shipped Elecraft part arrived via USPS in three days time, from California to New Mexico, via who knows where. The United States Postal Service is a federal government agency. The authority for the creation of the Post Office is found in the U.S. Constitution at Article I, Section 8, which says, in part: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States… To establish post offices and post roads;" Yes, it’s in the same clause that allows Congress to tax us and to raise an army and a navy. US Postal Service workers are FEDERAL employees. The US Congress writes the rules, postal regulations and laws controlling the Post Office. a postal crime including graffiti on a post office wallis a FEDERAL CRIME. The U.S. Postal Service is, by law, an "independent establishment" of the executive branch. The agency doesn't normally use tax dollars for operations, except when it needs a loan to cover all the unfunded debt, it must, by Congressional act, get that loan from the US Treasury. The USPS CANNOT borrow money from a private lender. The Postal Service has been borrowing billions of dollars from taxpayers in recent years to make up shortfalls caused by declining mail volumes and a 2006 congressional mandate to prefund retirement health care benefits. If I destroy a mailbox, it is a federal offense. If I attack a mail person, it is a federal offense. If I rob a mail truck, it is a federal offense. And if your Elecraft part does not arrive in time, and does a 3-times-around tour of the good ol' USA, it is NOT a federal offense. 73, and enjoy the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS mail delivery since 1912. de Milt, N5IA -Original Message- From: Scott Manthe Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:58 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days Our tax dollars don't support the USPS. 73, Scott, N9AA - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7400 - Release Date: 04/26/14 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@socal.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days
Sorry but the Richmond Virginia Postal Service delivered on Sundays during two weeks before Christmas during part of the 1950's. Just like before eFile they stayed open 'till midnight on April 15th. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Apr 26, 2014, at 4:37 PM, "Milt -- N5IA" wrote: > > My recently shipped Elecraft part arrived via USPS in three days time, from > California to New Mexico, via who knows where. > > The United States Postal Service is a federal government agency. > > The authority for the creation of the Post Office is found in the U.S. > Constitution at Article I, Section 8, which says, in part: > > "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts > and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general > welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be > uniform throughout the United States… > > To establish post offices and post roads;" > > Yes, it’s in the same clause that allows Congress to tax us and to raise an > army and a navy. > > US Postal Service workers are FEDERAL employees. > > The US Congress writes the rules, postal regulations and laws controlling the > Post Office. a postal crime including graffiti on a post office > wallis a FEDERAL CRIME. > > The U.S. Postal Service is, by law, an "independent establishment" of the > executive branch. > > The agency doesn't normally use tax dollars for operations, except when it > needs a loan to cover all the unfunded debt, it must, by Congressional act, > get that loan from the US Treasury. The USPS CANNOT borrow money from a > private lender. > > The Postal Service has been borrowing billions of dollars from taxpayers in > recent years to make up shortfalls caused by declining mail volumes and a > 2006 congressional mandate to prefund retirement health care benefits. > > If I destroy a mailbox, it is a federal offense. > > If I attack a mail person, it is a federal offense. > > If I rob a mail truck, it is a federal offense. > > And if your Elecraft part does not arrive in time, and does a 3-times-around > tour of the good ol' USA, it is NOT a federal offense. > > 73, and enjoy the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS mail > delivery since 1912. > > de Milt, N5IA > ======================================== > > -Original Message- From: Scott Manthe > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:58 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From > Our Kingston Trio Days > > Our tax dollars don't support the USPS. > > 73, > Scott, N9AA > > > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7400 - Release Date: 04/26/14 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days
On 4/26/2014 1:37 PM, Milt -- N5IA wrote: > 73, and enjoy the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS > mail delivery since 1912. It all depends on whose Sabbath you are referring to. The USPS still delivers mail on my Sabbath. There is talk of cutting deliveries to three days a week, but all that will accomplish is to make larger per-carrier loads to deliver, necessitating more carrier-hours, which doesn't save money at all. I applaud Elecraft's support of the USPS. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days
And somewhat ironically, the USPS delivers for FedEx. Webber shipped me a new set of grill grates for my BBQ via FedEx, sending me a confirmation with a FedEx tracking number. It was delivered by a real USPS employee in a real USPS truck with a real USPS tracking label on the box. It was Thursday, I don't know if they do that on Sunday. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 4/26/2014 3:27 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: Re "the upcoming Sabbath day where there has NOT been any USPS mail delivery since 1912": Yes, but they now deliver for Amazon on Sundays! Phil w7ox __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT---Sorta A New Version of "Charlie on The MTA"From Our Kingston Trio Days
USPS also delivers for UPS. If you find a site that offers UPS Economy shipping, the order will be shipped initially by UPS, but it is delivered to your post office and it comes in your mailbox by the postal carrier. No Sunday deliveries here. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/26/2014 7:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: And somewhat ironically, the USPS delivers for FedEx. Webber shipped me a new set of grill grates for my BBQ via FedEx, sending me a confirmation with a FedEx tracking number. It was delivered by a real USPS employee in a real USPS truck with a real USPS tracking label on the box. It was Thursday, I don't know if they do that on Sunday. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com