[Elecraft] OT -- Ham radio operators contribute to protecting the Earth

2017-05-18 Thread Phil Hystad
I thought some other ham operators might like to read how they are helping
to build a protective bubble around the Earth.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/05/wow-guys/527193/

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] OT -- Ham radio operators contribute to protecting the Earth

2017-05-18 Thread John Marvin
Perhaps you are confusing VLF with VHF? The article talks about VLF 
transmissions. VLF is 3-30 Khz. There are no ham bands in that range.


73,

John
AC0ZG

On 5/18/2017 6:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

I thought some other ham operators might like to read how they are helping
to build a protective bubble around the Earth.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/05/wow-guys/527193/

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] OT -- Ham radio operators contribute to protecting the Earth

2017-05-18 Thread Phil Hystad
No confusion — I just thought it was interesting and thought others would be 
interested.


> On May 18, 2017, at 5:44 PM, John Marvin  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps you are confusing VLF with VHF? The article talks about VLF 
> transmissions. VLF is 3-30 Khz. There are no ham bands in that range.
> 
> 73,
> 
> John
> AC0ZG
> 
> On 5/18/2017 6:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I thought some other ham operators might like to read how they are helping
>> to build a protective bubble around the Earth.
>> 
>> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/05/wow-guys/527193/
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT -- Ham radio operators contribute to protecting the Earth

2017-05-18 Thread Mike Morrow
That's true...VLF!  Those of us who served on ballistic missile submarines were 
part of the motivation for those megawatt-output coast stations around 15 kHz.

But let's not forget all the localized radiation on VLF coming from hundreds of 
millions of TVs with horizontal sweep tubes and power transistors from pre-21st 
century non-HD TV sets.  It all adds up...with nary a ham station part of it.  
:-)

Mike / KK5F

-Original Message-
>From: John Marvin 
>Sent: May 18, 2017 7:44 PM
>
>Perhaps you are confusing VLF with VHF? The article talks about VLF 
>transmissions. VLF is 3-30 Khz. There are no ham bands in that range.
>
>73,
>
>John
>AC0ZG
>
>On 5/18/2017 6:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I thought some other ham operators might like to read how they are helping
>> to build a protective bubble around the Earth.
>>
>> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/05/wow-guys/527193/
>>
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] OT -- Ham radio operators contribute to protecting the Earth

2017-05-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Very interesting Phil thanks, but I believe there were far more VLF and MF
transmissions back in the time period from 1900 to 1940 than there are
today. 

For a long time it was believed that longer wavelengths (lower frequencies)
were essential for long-range communications. That is why shipboard
communications and point-to-point communications were focused on the
frequencies below 450 kHz - the lower the better. 

The AM "standard broadcast band" was established in about 550 to 1600 kHz
believing that those frequencies were only useful for short ranges up to a
few tens of miles, which is what the commercial broadcast station
allocations were designed to serve. 

Of course us Hams were given use of the shorter wavelengths (200 meters or
less in wavelengths - or about 1600 kHz or above in frequency) because it
was "obvious" someone would be lucky to communicate across a small town with
them, if that far. 

And then that all changed when a few Hams broke away from QRMing each other
on 200 meters and started exploring the shorter wavelengths. 

Now there is comparatively little going on down there. As the article
mentions, submarine comms are at VLF. Low powered aircraft beacons, some GPS
correction beacons (also low powered) and some Ham activity under the
special licenses. I haven't listened down there in a while but that's all
that comes to mind. 

So the source of the "bubble" mentioned in the article seems a mystery -- or
is it something that has been there since Marconi launched the radio
business and is now just being noticed? 

73, Ron AC7AC 

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I thought some other ham operators might like to read how they are helping
to build a protective bubble around the Earth.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/05/wow-guys/527193/

73, phil, K7PEH

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