Re: FW: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
>About the "Desktop" vs "Server" question, "Dell does not support" does not >mean it won't work. It does mean there is no AGP slot, but a PCI graphics >card is fine for everything except Gaming, DVD viewing and CAD. Heck, the >onboard Video is probably fine for hi-res, non real-time applications. The >SC420 does have two "PCI Express" slots, whatever those are. AGP and PCI are going the way of ISA and are being replaced with PCI Express. The latter is a serial bus and comes in a variety of "widths". For video you normally get a 16 or 32x PCI Express that has 16 or 32 high speed serial channels feeding the video card. It is at least an order of magnitude faster than AGP. Here's a good link: http://www.intel.com/technology/pciexpress/devnet/docs/WhatisPCIExpress.pdf ~Don ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: FW: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
Dan Barker wrote: onboard Video is probably fine for hi-res, non real-time applications. The SC420 does have two "PCI Express" slots, whatever those are. Very briefly, ISA -> PCI -> AGP -> PCIX. Basically, yet another even faster interface for cards. B73, Andrea. -- Homepage: http://andrea.borgia.bo.it /Amateur radio: IZ4FHT A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
There's one version which will even ship you a CD for free: http://www.ubuntulinux.org 73, Bob, N7XY On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:43:30PM +, Stephen wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Try LINUX..it works with most things..without fettling...and its often > free > on a mag cover disc.. > > Steve > > > On Tuesday 04 January 2005 14:31, Charles Greene wrote: > > Dan, > > > > I found it. Seems it has no operating system. Do you read it that way > > too? I'm not sure I have an operating system I can use. My Daughters > > Compaq went belly up due to a power surge last week, but the restore disk > > probably checks to see if it is the right model Compaq, and my computers > > are the same way. Possibly I can get a Windows 2000. > > > > 73 > > > > Chas > > > > At 06:00 PM 1/3/2005, Dan Barker wrote: > > >It's a bear to find. > > > > > >www.dell.com, click small business, Click "Servers, Storage and > > > Networking", Scroll down a bit and click "Customize it" next to the $224 > > > teaser (that's a 40G harddrive). Pay LOTS of attention. Some of the > > > "options" have prices like "remove $99". > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
Gentlemen, Try LINUX..it works with most things..without fettling...and its often free on a mag cover disc.. Steve On Tuesday 04 January 2005 14:31, Charles Greene wrote: > Dan, > > I found it. Seems it has no operating system. Do you read it that way > too? I'm not sure I have an operating system I can use. My Daughters > Compaq went belly up due to a power surge last week, but the restore disk > probably checks to see if it is the right model Compaq, and my computers > are the same way. Possibly I can get a Windows 2000. > > 73 > > Chas > > At 06:00 PM 1/3/2005, Dan Barker wrote: > >It's a bear to find. > > > >www.dell.com, click small business, Click "Servers, Storage and > > Networking", Scroll down a bit and click "Customize it" next to the $224 > > teaser (that's a 40G harddrive). Pay LOTS of attention. Some of the > > "options" have prices like "remove $99". > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Stephen Farthing ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
Dan, I found it. Seems it has no operating system. Do you read it that way too? I'm not sure I have an operating system I can use. My Daughters Compaq went belly up due to a power surge last week, but the restore disk probably checks to see if it is the right model Compaq, and my computers are the same way. Possibly I can get a Windows 2000. 73 Chas At 06:00 PM 1/3/2005, Dan Barker wrote: It's a bear to find. www.dell.com, click small business, Click "Servers, Storage and Networking", Scroll down a bit and click "Customize it" next to the $224 teaser (that's a 40G harddrive). Pay LOTS of attention. Some of the "options" have prices like "remove $99". ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
Did a little research - looks like there is onboard video but an XP driver may or may not be available. Also, all PCI slots and no AGP. Looks like they were being sold for even less last month. Paul > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Ermisch > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:13 PM > To: 'Elecraft' > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away > machines > > At the top of the configuration list: > > Note: For server use only; CANNOT BE USED AS A DESKTOP. > Dell does not support the use of a graphics card on the SC420. > > Still, a great price. The other desktops they're selling are priced > well. > > Paul NN0C > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ron > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:37 PM > > To: 'Dan Barker'; 'Elecraft' > > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away > > machines > > > > Wow! Now, there is no excuse for not being able to do digital modes!! > > > > > > Ron wb1hga > > > > ___ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
FW: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
Bill, K3UJ sez: > Drats! They now seem to be out of the Celrons. Their P4 SC420 w/ 1G ram is $699 I said you had to be very careful about the selections or the price comes out funny. Example: Default: $630 with 512MB DDR2, 400MHz, 2X256MB, Single Ranked DIMMs 3 Year Basic Plan Onboard SATA, 2 Drives connected to Onboard SATA Controller First Hard Drive 40GB, Serial ATA, 1 inch, 7.2K RPM, Hard Drive Second Hard Drive 40GB, Serial ATA, 1 inch, 7.2K RPM, Hard Drive Change it to: FREE UPGRADE to 512MB DDR2, 400MHz, 2X256 Single Ranked [subtract $99] $531 This is very interesting, because you are changing the memory for identical memory but saving $99. Go Figure. Change it to: 1 Year Basic Plan [subtract $119] $412 It's a $200 machine. If it breaks, buy another. Change it to: Onboard SATA, 1 Drive connected to Onboard SATA Controller First Hard Drive 80GB, Serial ATA, 1 inch, 7.2K RPM, Hard Drive [add $10] Second Hard Drive, None [subtract &89] $333. If you need a second drive, $89 for 40G is horrible. Try TigerDirect. So, you are paying $100 extra for a better chip. The P4 will run 800MHz frontside buss, so you might (think carefully about this!) want faster memory. Your call. rtfm. Someone mentioned they required a Tax ID number. I did not use my tax ID, nor did it ask, and I used a Personal Credit Card to pay. That information appears to be incorrect. About the "Desktop" vs "Server" question, "Dell does not support" does not mean it won't work. It does mean there is no AGP slot, but a PCI graphics card is fine for everything except Gaming, DVD viewing and CAD. Heck, the onboard Video is probably fine for hi-res, non real-time applications. The SC420 does have two "PCI Express" slots, whatever those are. END OF THREAD FROM GEORGIA. Use the web, Luke! Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
At the top of the configuration list: Note: For server use only; CANNOT BE USED AS A DESKTOP. Dell does not support the use of a graphics card on the SC420. Still, a great price. The other desktops they're selling are priced well. Paul NN0C > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ron > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:37 PM > To: 'Dan Barker'; 'Elecraft' > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away > machines > > Wow! Now, there is no excuse for not being able to do digital modes!! > > > Ron wb1hga > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
Wow! Now, there is no excuse for not being able to do digital modes!! Ron wb1hga ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
It's a bear to find. www.dell.com, click small business, Click "Servers, Storage and Networking", Scroll down a bit and click "Customize it" next to the $224 teaser (that's a 40G harddrive). Pay LOTS of attention. Some of the "options" have prices like "remove $99". Don't know if this link will work for you, but you can drill in as above. http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&; oc=sc420sapp&s=bsd They are kind of high for disks, but the memory is decent. Dan -Original Message- From: NZ8J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:55 PM To: Dan Barker Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines Dan, Do you have a link for that? I can't find it on the Dell site.. Thanks for the heads-up Tim NZ8J ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT - Way off topic, but Dell is giving away machines
Until 1/5/05, you can get a Dell SC420, 2.5GHz Celeron, 1G Ram, 80G Harddrive, CD-Rom for $234. I just ordered 4! Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 No affiliation, blah, blah, blah, I just lost 3 servers over the weekend and I'm OUT of spares and very nervous. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
