Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter - K2 Panadapter

2009-01-10 Thread Larry Phipps
The hardware is available to order now, and the LP-Bridge support for 
the reduced command set of the K2 will be ready in a few weeks. If you 
plan to order, use the standard order buttons and add a note that it's 
for K2.

73,
Larry N8LP



Jack Smith wrote:
> My understanding is that the LP-PAN for K2 is very close to release - 
> perhaps Larry can provide the official word.
>
> Jack
>
>
> Jim Campbell wrote:
>> Jack,
>>
>> I'm glad that you have instructions for adding the Z1 to the K2,
>> because I looked around and couldn't find my translation of the German
>> instructions.  By the way, the setup works just fine but I don't use it
>> too much.  I'm waiting hopefully for the K2 version of LP-Bridge (?) so
>> that the frequency of the K2 would be shown on the PowerSDR scale.  Any
>> news on LP-Bridge?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jim - W4BQP
>>
>> Jack Smith wrote:
>>  
>>> Jim:
>>>
>>> If you are going to extract an IF sample out of the K2, the Z1
>>> buffer amplifier can be installed inside the K2 with the internal
>>> installation option. This provides a convenient IF output with
>>> bandpass filtering, protected against short circuits on the IF sample
>>> port connector and with excellent  isolation--around 100 dB reverse
>>> gain when installed according to the instructions provided with the
>>> Z1 kit.
>>>
>>> There's an embarrassingly long manual with the details on installing
>>> the Z1 inside a K2 at
>>> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_and_panadapters.htm
>>>
>>> Jack K8ZOA
>>> www.cliftonlaboratories.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Campbell wrote:
>>>
 Ron,

 I'm not familiar with the Conexant audio device.  However, many
 laptops do not have a stereo input such as a Line In.  The microphone
 input is usually mono.  You are going to need the stereo/line-in
 input in order to have the SDR work correctly.  If you don't have
 such an input on your laptop you will need an external USB audio
 adapter.  I am using the SoundBlaster X-Fi USB with my HP laptop.
 As a side note, I have added the Clifton Labs buffer amplifier
 (X-1 ?) to my K2 and am using one of the SoftRock Lites tailored
 for the K2 for a panadaptor.  Yes, I realize that the K2 doesn't
 provide an IF output, but I found that a K2-owner in Germany had
 tapped in to the K2 IF and had published the description (in German,
 naturally).  I think I have a translation of the article around here
 somewhere if anyone is interested.

 73,

 Jim - W4BQP
 K2 #2268

 Ron Midwin wrote:
  
> Fellow Elecraft enthusiasts,
>
>  
>
> I just ordered the SoftRock Lite from Tony, KB9YIG, below.  I would
> like to be able to observe whatever bandwidth I can around any band
> I am working on my K-3.  Since this appears to be a compromise over
> the "Pan Adapter" that is available for ~$300, per Tony's suggestion
> I wonder if any of you have successfully tried this?  And how does
> it work?  FYI, I have an HP Pavilion dv9700 Notebook PC, AMD Turion
> X2 Mobile Technology TL-60  2.00 GHz, 2.00 GB Memory, 32 Bit Op
> System, with Vista.
>
>  
>
> Not sure which sound card is built in.  Driver is Conexant High
> Definition Smart Audio 221, if that helps.
>
>  
>
> 73,
>
>  
>
> RonAE6RH
>
>  
>
>  
>
> / /
>
>
> 
  


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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter - K2 Panadapter - K2 Pactor III

2009-01-10 Thread Jack Smith
No bridge program from me--I really dislike programming for Windows 
machinery.

Jack


Jim Campbell wrote:
> Jack and Ron,
>
> Sorry, but I was thinking about one thing and talking about another.  I
> had also made some modifications to my K2 to allow me to drive a
> PTC-IIusb pactor modem.  That modification is the one that was
> originally done by a German ham.  So I was thinking about the pactor
> modification when talking about the panadapter modification.  My only
> excuse is that my aging mind is easily confused.
>
> Jack, question:  Do you plan to offer an LP-Bridge program for the K2?
>
> 73,
>
> Jim - W4BQP
>
> Jack Smith wrote:
>   
>> Jim:
>>
>> If you are going to extract an IF sample out of the K2, the Z1
>> buffer amplifier can be installed inside the K2 with the internal
>> installation option. This provides a convenient IF output with
>> bandpass filtering, protected against short circuits on the IF sample
>> port connector and with excellent  isolation--around 100 dB reverse
>> gain when installed according to the instructions provided with the
>> Z1 kit.
>>
>> There's an embarrassingly long manual with the details on installing
>> the Z1 inside a K2 at
>> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_and_panadapters.htm
>>
>> Jack K8ZOA
>> www.cliftonlaboratories.com
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter - K2 Panadapter - K2 Pactor III

2009-01-10 Thread Jim Campbell
Jack and Ron,

Sorry, but I was thinking about one thing and talking about another.  I
had also made some modifications to my K2 to allow me to drive a
PTC-IIusb pactor modem.  That modification is the one that was
originally done by a German ham.  So I was thinking about the pactor
modification when talking about the panadapter modification.  My only
excuse is that my aging mind is easily confused.

Jack, question:  Do you plan to offer an LP-Bridge program for the K2?

73,

Jim - W4BQP

Jack Smith wrote:
> Jim:
>
> If you are going to extract an IF sample out of the K2, the Z1
> buffer amplifier can be installed inside the K2 with the internal
> installation option. This provides a convenient IF output with
> bandpass filtering, protected against short circuits on the IF sample
> port connector and with excellent  isolation--around 100 dB reverse
> gain when installed according to the instructions provided with the
> Z1 kit.
>
> There's an embarrassingly long manual with the details on installing
> the Z1 inside a K2 at
> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_and_panadapters.htm
>
> Jack K8ZOA
> www.cliftonlaboratories.com
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter - K2 Panadapter

2009-01-10 Thread Jack Smith
My understanding is that the LP-PAN for K2 is very close to release - 
perhaps Larry can provide the official word.

Jack


Jim Campbell wrote:
> Jack,
>
> I'm glad that you have instructions for adding the Z1 to the K2,
> because I looked around and couldn't find my translation of the German
> instructions.  By the way, the setup works just fine but I don't use it
> too much.  I'm waiting hopefully for the K2 version of LP-Bridge (?) so
> that the frequency of the K2 would be shown on the PowerSDR scale.  Any
> news on LP-Bridge?
>
> 73,
>
> Jim - W4BQP
>
> Jack Smith wrote:
>   
>> Jim:
>>
>> If you are going to extract an IF sample out of the K2, the Z1
>> buffer amplifier can be installed inside the K2 with the internal
>> installation option. This provides a convenient IF output with
>> bandpass filtering, protected against short circuits on the IF sample
>> port connector and with excellent  isolation--around 100 dB reverse
>> gain when installed according to the instructions provided with the
>> Z1 kit.
>>
>> There's an embarrassingly long manual with the details on installing
>> the Z1 inside a K2 at
>> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_and_panadapters.htm
>>
>> Jack K8ZOA
>> www.cliftonlaboratories.com
>>
>>
>> Jim Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with the Conexant audio device.  However, many
>>> laptops do not have a stereo input such as a Line In.  The microphone
>>> input is usually mono.  You are going to need the stereo/line-in
>>> input in order to have the SDR work correctly.  If you don't have
>>> such an input on your laptop you will need an external USB audio
>>> adapter.  I am using the SoundBlaster X-Fi USB with my HP laptop.
>>> As a side note, I have added the Clifton Labs buffer amplifier
>>> (X-1 ?) to my K2 and am using one of the SoftRock Lites tailored
>>> for the K2 for a panadaptor.  Yes, I realize that the K2 doesn't
>>> provide an IF output, but I found that a K2-owner in Germany had
>>> tapped in to the K2 IF and had published the description (in German,
>>> naturally).  I think I have a translation of the article around here
>>> somewhere if anyone is interested.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Jim - W4BQP
>>> K2 #2268
>>>
>>> Ron Midwin wrote:
>>>   
 Fellow Elecraft enthusiasts,

  

 I just ordered the SoftRock Lite from Tony, KB9YIG, below.  I would
 like to be able to observe whatever bandwidth I can around any band
 I am working on my K-3.  Since this appears to be a compromise over
 the "Pan Adapter" that is available for ~$300, per Tony's suggestion
 I wonder if any of you have successfully tried this?  And how does
 it work?  FYI, I have an HP Pavilion dv9700 Notebook PC, AMD Turion
 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60  2.00 GHz, 2.00 GB Memory, 32 Bit Op
 System, with Vista.

  

 Not sure which sound card is built in.  Driver is Conexant High
 Definition Smart Audio 221, if that helps.

  

 73,

  

 RonAE6RH

  

  

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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter - K2 Panadapter

2009-01-10 Thread Jim Campbell
Jack,

I'm glad that you have instructions for adding the Z1 to the K2,
because I looked around and couldn't find my translation of the German
instructions.  By the way, the setup works just fine but I don't use it
too much.  I'm waiting hopefully for the K2 version of LP-Bridge (?) so
that the frequency of the K2 would be shown on the PowerSDR scale.  Any
news on LP-Bridge?

73,

Jim - W4BQP

Jack Smith wrote:
> Jim:
>
> If you are going to extract an IF sample out of the K2, the Z1
> buffer amplifier can be installed inside the K2 with the internal
> installation option. This provides a convenient IF output with
> bandpass filtering, protected against short circuits on the IF sample
> port connector and with excellent  isolation--around 100 dB reverse
> gain when installed according to the instructions provided with the
> Z1 kit.
>
> There's an embarrassingly long manual with the details on installing
> the Z1 inside a K2 at
> http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_and_panadapters.htm
>
> Jack K8ZOA
> www.cliftonlaboratories.com
>
>
> Jim Campbell wrote:
>> Ron,
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the Conexant audio device.  However, many
>> laptops do not have a stereo input such as a Line In.  The microphone
>> input is usually mono.  You are going to need the stereo/line-in
>> input in order to have the SDR work correctly.  If you don't have
>> such an input on your laptop you will need an external USB audio
>> adapter.  I am using the SoundBlaster X-Fi USB with my HP laptop.
>> As a side note, I have added the Clifton Labs buffer amplifier
>> (X-1 ?) to my K2 and am using one of the SoftRock Lites tailored
>> for the K2 for a panadaptor.  Yes, I realize that the K2 doesn't
>> provide an IF output, but I found that a K2-owner in Germany had
>> tapped in to the K2 IF and had published the description (in German,
>> naturally).  I think I have a translation of the article around here
>> somewhere if anyone is interested.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jim - W4BQP
>> K2 #2268
>>
>> Ron Midwin wrote:
>>>
>>> Fellow Elecraft enthusiasts,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I just ordered the SoftRock Lite from Tony, KB9YIG, below.  I would
>>> like to be able to observe whatever bandwidth I can around any band
>>> I am working on my K-3.  Since this appears to be a compromise over
>>> the "Pan Adapter" that is available for ~$300, per Tony's suggestion
>>> I wonder if any of you have successfully tried this?  And how does
>>> it work?  FYI, I have an HP Pavilion dv9700 Notebook PC, AMD Turion
>>> X2 Mobile Technology TL-60  2.00 GHz, 2.00 GB Memory, 32 Bit Op
>>> System, with Vista.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Not sure which sound card is built in.  Driver is Conexant High
>>> Definition Smart Audio 221, if that helps.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> RonAE6RH
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> / /
>>>
>>>
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter

2009-01-10 Thread GM0ELP

Hi Ron,
   As Dave mentioned, I run softrock panadapters for both my K3 and K2.

http://gm0elp.blogspot.com/2008/08/k3-panadapter-softrock-v62-lite.html

http://gm0elp.blogspot.com/2008/11/k2-z1-k2-buffer-amp-and-softrock.html

They're cheap but work very well. I have a Clifton Labs Z1 bufferamp
between the softrock and the K3 (both are mounted within the same Altoids
tin). I'm using a Delta 44 soundcard and 96KHz sampling rate.

I simply followed the very detailed instructions on the Clifton Labs web
site: http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com

You have to be able to work with surface mount components for both boards.
Within a few weeks I got the kits from Clifton Labs/Tony Parks and with
minimal effort was up and running.

On the downside I currently have 2 mirror image and a one centre noise
spikes on-screen. I can't seem to get rid of them, but apart from that most
of the spectrum is useable. I can see signals that I can barely hear on the
K3. There is no K3 rx noise evident when the softrock is attached to the
KXV3.

My main useage is the following:
1) Monitoring for a band opening.
2) During each contact in a contest (search and pounce), I find it helps to
look where the next station is. This prevents me tuning over him when I've
finished the current contact and he isn't transmitting any more.

Doug GM0ELP




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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter - K2 Panadapter

2009-01-10 Thread Jack Smith
Jim:

If you are going to extract an IF sample out of the K2, the Z1 
buffer amplifier can be installed inside the K2 with the internal 
installation option. This provides a convenient IF output with bandpass 
filtering, protected against short circuits on the IF sample port 
connector and with excellent  isolation--around 100 dB reverse gain when 
installed according to the instructions provided with the Z1 kit.

There's an embarrassingly long manual with the details on installing the 
Z1 inside a K2 at
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_and_panadapters.htm

Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com


Jim Campbell wrote:
> Ron,
>
> I'm not familiar with the Conexant audio device.  However, many 
> laptops do not have a stereo input such as a Line In.  The microphone 
> input is usually mono.  You are going to need the stereo/line-in input 
> in order to have the SDR work correctly.  If you don't have such an 
> input on your laptop you will need an external USB audio adapter.  I 
> am using the SoundBlaster X-Fi USB with my HP laptop. 
>
> As a side note, I have added the Clifton Labs buffer amplifier 
> (X-1 ?) to my K2 and am using one of the SoftRock Lites tailored 
> for the K2 for a panadaptor.  Yes, I realize that the K2 doesn't 
> provide an IF output, but I found that a K2-owner in Germany had 
> tapped in to the K2 IF and had published the description (in German, 
> naturally).  I think I have a translation of the article around here 
> somewhere if anyone is interested.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim - W4BQP
> K2 #2268
>
> Ron Midwin wrote:
>>
>> Fellow Elecraft enthusiasts,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I just ordered the SoftRock Lite from Tony, KB9YIG, below.  I would 
>> like to be able to observe whatever bandwidth I can around any band I 
>> am working on my K-3.  Since this appears to be a compromise over the 
>> "Pan Adapter" that is available for ~$300, per Tony's suggestion I 
>> wonder if any of you have successfully tried this?  And how does it 
>> work?  FYI, I have an HP Pavilion dv9700 Notebook PC, AMD Turion X2 
>> Mobile Technology TL-60  2.00 GHz, 2.00 GB Memory, 32 Bit Op System, 
>> with Vista.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Not sure which sound card is built in.  Driver is Conexant High 
>> Definition Smart Audio 221, if that helps.
>>
>>  
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>  
>>
>> RonAE6RH
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> / /
>>
>>
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter - K2 Panadapter

2009-01-10 Thread Jim Campbell
Ron,

I'm not familiar with the Conexant audio device.  However, many laptops
do not have a stereo input such as a Line In.  The microphone input is
usually mono.  You are going to need the stereo/line-in input in order
to have the SDR work correctly.  If you don't have such an input on your
laptop you will need an external USB audio adapter.  I am using the
SoundBlaster X-Fi USB with my HP laptop. 

As a side note, I have added the Clifton Labs buffer amplifier (X-1
?) to my K2 and am using one of the SoftRock Lites tailored for the K2
for a panadaptor.  Yes, I realize that the K2 doesn't provide an IF
output, but I found that a K2-owner in Germany had tapped in to the K2
IF and had published the description (in German, naturally).  I think I
have a translation of the article around here somewhere if anyone is
interested.

73,

Jim - W4BQP
K2 #2268

Ron Midwin wrote:
>
> Fellow Elecraft enthusiasts,
>
>  
>
> I just ordered the SoftRock Lite from Tony, KB9YIG, below.  I would
> like to be able to observe whatever bandwidth I can around any band I
> am working on my K-3.  Since this appears to be a compromise over the
> "Pan Adapter" that is available for ~$300, per Tony's suggestion I
> wonder if any of you have successfully tried this?  And how does it
> work?  FYI, I have an HP Pavilion dv9700 Notebook PC, AMD Turion X2
> Mobile Technology TL-60  2.00 GHz, 2.00 GB Memory, 32 Bit Op System,
> with Vista.
>
>  
>
> Not sure which sound card is built in.  Driver is Conexant High
> Definition Smart Audio 221, if that helps.
>
>  
>
> 73,
>
>  
>
> RonAE6RH
>
>  
>
>  
>
> / /
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter

2009-01-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ron,

I have not completed it yet, but the Softrock can make a good 
panadapter.  Be aware that the Softrock by itself does have local 
oscillator leakage and can feed back into the K3 IF if connected 
directly.  An isolation amplifier is needed in addition to the Softrock 
receiver.  Jack Smith of Clifton Labs has a Z1 kit that will do the 
job nicely.   http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/z1_buffer_amp.htm

73,
Don W3FPR

Ron Midwin wrote:
>
> Fellow Elecraft enthusiasts,
>
>  
>
> I just ordered the SoftRock Lite from Tony, KB9YIG, below.  I would 
> like to be able to observe whatever bandwidth I can around any band I 
> am working on my K-3.  Since this appears to be a compromise over the 
> "Pan Adapter" that is available for ~$300, per Tony's suggestion I 
> wonder if any of you have successfully tried this?  And how does it 
> work?  FYI, I have an HP Pavilion dv9700 Notebook PC, AMD Turion X2 
> Mobile Technology TL-60  2.00 GHz, 2.00 GB Memory, 32 Bit Op System, 
> with Vista.
>
>  
>
> Not sure which sound card is built in.  Driver is Conexant High 
> Definition Smart Audio 221, if that helps.
>
>  
>
> 73,
>
>  
>
> RonAE6RH
>
>  
>
>  
>
> / /
>
> /Hi Ron,/
>
> / /
>
> /The IF output of the K3 may be connected to a "K3 IF" version of the 
> SoftRock Lite to get a view of signals in the IF passband.  The K3 IF 
> Lite II kit is $12 and the unit has a center frequency of about 8.190 
> MHz.  With 48 kHz soundcard sample rate the IF band coverage would be 
> +/-24 kHz around the Lite II center frequency./
>
> / /
>
> /It might be well to ask on the Elecraft reflector if any have had 
> success using the SoftRock Lite with the K3.  I have sold many such 
> kits but can't say I have ever gotten a report on how it has worked 
> out for people./
>
> / /
>
> /Thanks for your interest in the kits./
>
> / /
>
> /73,/
>
> /Tony KB9YIG/
>
> / /
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter

2009-01-10 Thread Dave G4AON
Ron - Doug, GM0ELP, has a blog at: http://gm0elp.blogspot.com/
describing his experiences with Softrock Lite.

I just ordered the SoftRock Lite from Tony, KB9YIG, below. I would like to
be able to observe whatever bandwidth I can around any band I am working on
my K-3. Since this appears to be a compromise over the "Pan Adapter" that
is available for ~$300, per Tony's suggestion I wonder if any of you have
successfully tried this?



RonAE6RH
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[Elecraft] Poor man's pan adapter

2009-01-09 Thread Ron Midwin
Fellow Elecraft enthusiasts,

 

I just ordered the SoftRock Lite from Tony, KB9YIG, below.  I would like to
be able to observe whatever bandwidth I can around any band I am working on
my K-3.  Since this appears to be a compromise over the "Pan Adapter" that
is available for ~$300, per Tony's suggestion I wonder if any of you have
successfully tried this?  And how does it work?  FYI, I have an HP Pavilion
dv9700 Notebook PC, AMD Turion X2 Mobile Technology TL-60  2.00 GHz, 2.00 GB
Memory, 32 Bit Op System, with Vista.

 

Not sure which sound card is built in.  Driver is Conexant High Definition
Smart Audio 221, if that helps.

 

73,

 

RonAE6RH

 

 

 

Hi Ron,

 

The IF output of the K3 may be connected to a "K3 IF" version of the
SoftRock Lite to get a view of signals in the IF passband.  The K3 IF Lite
II kit is $12 and the unit has a center frequency of about 8.190 MHz.  With
48 kHz soundcard sample rate the IF band coverage would be +/-24 kHz around
the Lite II center frequency.

 

It might be well to ask on the Elecraft reflector if any have had success
using the SoftRock Lite with the K3.  I have sold many such kits but can't
say I have ever gotten a report on how it has worked out for people.

 

Thanks for your interest in the kits.

 

73,

Tony KB9YIG

 

 

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