Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here
What I don't like about the new Kenwood is that it doesn't have an IF out. I think they shot themselves in the foot on that one. 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:47 AM To: Elecraft Reflector; n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here Hi I see no advantages over the K3, so why would you even consider this new model Kenwood? If it was a 1000 dollar radio that might be a good a reason for a change. As I see it the Kenwood has less knobs and functionality on its front panel than the K3. The transmitter uses 12 volt devices so the IMD is probably going to be below acceptable standards. It does not look like the new Kenwood has remote direct internet control like the TS480. This is just a TS570S on steroids for the receiver, it aint gonna set the world on fire. All I am waiting for now is Icoms down conversion radio. I would not be surprised if they released something like the IC706 with a down conversion receiver just to be trendy. Despite what Icom says it will produce a down conversion radio. They had a good one the IC751A. It would be hard for Icom too brag about receiver performance when this cheap lowly Kenwood will kick the crap out of its $10K IC78000, not a good look in the market place! Stay tuned for the new movie, Fiddler on the roofing filter! It stars the 3 Samurai's 73 John --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 9:32 PM On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:33:21 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com wrote: Oh! Wow! It has ten Hz display resolution! Thanks to Lew K6LMP for posting this. Once you get there, double click the icon. http://public.me.com/lewphelps de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here
Interesting point! I talked to a lot of people at Seaside who decided that the K3 wasn't their radio because it didn't have a built in fish finder as many of them called panadapters... This was usually said by people who were seeing the P3 for the first time and were finally considering the K3 as a radio they could now own because it has a panadapter... But boy with this radio not having an IF out people won't even be able to use LP-PAN or anything like that to make it happen... Seems like adding a feature like an IF out probably wouldn't have added too horribly much cost to things either... But hey everything is a trade off.. I'm sure they'll sell some! ~Brett (N7MG) On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Jeff KB2M k...@comcast.net wrote: What I don't like about the new Kenwood is that it doesn't have an IF out. I think they shot themselves in the foot on that one. 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:47 AM To: Elecraft Reflector; n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here Hi I see no advantages over the K3, so why would you even consider this new model Kenwood? If it was a 1000 dollar radio that might be a good a reason for a change. As I see it the Kenwood has less knobs and functionality on its front panel than the K3. The transmitter uses 12 volt devices so the IMD is probably going to be below acceptable standards. It does not look like the new Kenwood has remote direct internet control like the TS480. This is just a TS570S on steroids for the receiver, it aint gonna set the world on fire. All I am waiting for now is Icoms down conversion radio. I would not be surprised if they released something like the IC706 with a down conversion receiver just to be trendy. Despite what Icom says it will produce a down conversion radio. They had a good one the IC751A. It would be hard for Icom too brag about receiver performance when this cheap lowly Kenwood will kick the crap out of its $10K IC78000, not a good look in the market place! Stay tuned for the new movie, Fiddler on the roofing filter! It stars the 3 Samurai's 73 John --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 9:32 PM On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:33:21 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com wrote: Oh! Wow! It has ten Hz display resolution! Thanks to Lew K6LMP for posting this. Once you get there, double click the icon. http://public.me.com/lewphelps de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here
That was an ad from a Kenwood dealer in the UK, in the latest RadCom. I think it is grossly misleading, however ethics and UK ham radio dealer are rarely used in the same sentence unless accompanied by the words lack of. I don't know whether the Kenwood has an IF out or not because I haven't seen a picture of the back panel but I bet it also doesn't have switchable RX antenna input/output, transverter input/output, or dual receivers. I'd also be pleasantly surprised if it has a true RS-232 control interface, isolated line in/out sockets or handles digital modes as well as the K3 does. All of those features are important to me, and no other radio south of the IC-7600 comes close to matching them. On top of that the K3 has the internal 2m option, which again I'm sure the Kenwood doesn't. Unfortunately this hobby seems to have become fixated on receiver performance, despite the fact that for the kind of operating most people do, any of the rigs out there do a good enough job already. So if Kenwood does manage to match or better the K3's numbers, it will receive critical accolades far beyond what it deserves as an overall package. Jeff kb2m wrote: What I don't like about the new Kenwood is that it doesn't have an IF out. I think they shot themselves in the foot on that one. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Provocative-Kenwood-Advert-working-link-here-tp5249375p5251031.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here
juergen wrote: As I see it the Kenwood has less knobs QKB? How many knobs does your radio have? QKK? How many of those do you know how to use? 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here
Thanks to Lew K6LMP for posting this. Once you get there, double click the icon. http://public.me.com/lewphelps de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:33:21 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com wrote: Oh! Wow! It has ten Hz display resolution! Thanks to Lew K6LMP for posting this. Once you get there, double click the icon. http://public.me.com/lewphelps de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here
Hi I see no advantages over the K3, so why would you even consider this new model Kenwood? If it was a 1000 dollar radio that might be a good a reason for a change. As I see it the Kenwood has less knobs and functionality on its front panel than the K3. The transmitter uses 12 volt devices so the IMD is probably going to be below acceptable standards. It does not look like the new Kenwood has remote direct internet control like the TS480. This is just a TS570S on steroids for the receiver, it aint gonna set the world on fire. All I am waiting for now is Icoms down conversion radio. I would not be surprised if they released something like the IC706 with a down conversion receiver just to be trendy. Despite what Icom says it will produce a down conversion radio. They had a good one the IC751A. It would be hard for Icom too brag about receiver performance when this cheap lowly Kenwood will kick the crap out of its $10K IC78000, not a good look in the market place! Stay tuned for the new movie, Fiddler on the roofing filter! It stars the 3 Samurai's 73 John --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert working link here To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 9:32 PM On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:33:21 -0400, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com wrote: Oh! Wow! It has ten Hz display resolution! Thanks to Lew K6LMP for posting this. Once you get there, double click the icon. http://public.me.com/lewphelps de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
