Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
On 4/28/08, George Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chill out Rasmussen, We all know know what you did... Can't hide your act. George Doesn't bother me, probably doesn't bother Aptos. They're selling all they can make, and they've jacked up their price, too. I may put my #605 up for sale if they don't get the bugs out and the features in. If I do, I'll take bids and see how much I can make above what I paid for it. Everyone please stand by with their torches for my announcement. Dave W5DHM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
Capitalists and Comrades: Methinks it's time for some folks to reaquaint themselves with the List Guidlines, specifically, #5: 5. Please keep all postings cordial. Please restrain the urge to email someone admonishing them about a posting. The last thing we want to do is to scare anyone off the list. Overly aggressive postings and negative comments about other posters only serves to scare away new potential list members. Waiting over night before hitting 'send' really helps to put things in perspective.. If you have a complaint about someone or a thread please email it directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm 73, Steve On 4/28/08, Don Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you what's not in the spirit of amateur radio Dave, and that's likening a fellow ham that you don't even know to a ticket scalper in public because you guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit. Do you know that? Don't think so because it isn't true. There are hundreds or thousands of ham radios on ebay at any given time and you of course are welcome to your opinion about this subject and ebay as much as anyone, but postings like this in one public is pretty bad juju. I was apprehensive when I ordered the gear, not because I was afraid of losing on it, but because I was doing it to have some fun while I waited for my own K3, a diversion like the wiki I created, and was afraid that someone might characterize me negatively about it. Rest assured there is not enough money that I could make on an auction (my last one occurred in 1999) to compromise my good name. So please, lighten up, it's not a body part I'm selling, it's a radio. Or don't lighten up, but keeping opinions that are based on conjecture in private is most often the best policy - IMO. de wb8yqj [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction Dave Agsten w4txs at yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 17:38:08 EDT 2008 I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio. I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that, free to do whatever is legal. The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and other fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other sealed Elecraft K3 items in future auctions are also mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would hope that no one would bid on them but that won't happen. Dave N8AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
Well put... 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:19:24 -0400, S Sacco wrote: Capitalists and Comrades: Methinks it's time for some folks to reaquaint themselves with the List Guidlines, specifically, #5: 5. Please keep all postings cordial. Please restrain the urge to email someone admonishing them about a posting. The last thing we want to do is to scare anyone off the list. Overly aggressive postings and negative comments about other posters only serves to scare away new potential list members. Waiting over night before hitting 'send' really helps to put things in perspective.. If you have a complaint about someone or a thread please email it directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm 73, Steve On 4/28/08, Don Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you what's not in the spirit of amateur radio Dave, and that's likening a fellow ham that you don't even know to a ticket scalper in public because you guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit. Do you know that? Don't think so because it isn't true. There are hundreds or thousands of ham radios on ebay at any given time and you of course are welcome to your opinion about this subject and ebay as much as anyone, but postings like this in one public is pretty bad juju. I was apprehensive when I ordered the gear, not because I was afraid of losing on it, but because I was doing it to have some fun while I waited for my own K3, a diversion like the wiki I created, and was afraid that someone might characterize me negatively about it. Rest assured there is not enough money that I could make on an auction (my last one occurred in 1999) to compromise my good name. So please, lighten up, it's not a body part I'm selling, it's a radio. Or don't lighten up, but keeping opinions that are based on conjecture in private is most often the best policy - IMO. de wb8yqj [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction Dave Agsten w4txs at yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 17:38:08 EDT 2008 I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio. I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that, free to do whatever is legal. The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and other fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other sealed Elecraft K3 items in future auctions are also mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would hope that no one would bid on them but that won't happen. Dave N8AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
-Original Message- I may put my (K3) #605 up for sale if they don't get the bugs out and the features in. If I do, I'll take bids and see how much I can make above what I paid for it. - The premium folks are willing to pay (yes, they're willing to pay it) is a temporary thing. Once Elecraft gets them in stock, the good times will be over. If you want to sell you K3 quickly at a profit, then get 'er up on e-bay sooner than later. K2's are the same. They used to command a premium on e-bay and were few far between. Now that the K3 is being delivered, there are a bunch of K2s on e-bay and prices have dropped (become more typical of used gear). - Keith N1AS - - K3 711 - - K5 5411 SOLD - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
H! It seems to me that would put Icom/Yaesu/Kenwood and many other Ham radio Rigs in a not in the spirit of ham radio category. As I recall every one that I ever bought was first sold to someone before they marked it up and sold it to me. At least that's what the AES, HRO and Jun's sales receipt said. ;-) Al WA6VNN The law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio. . . . **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio. I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that, free to do whatever is legal. The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and other fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other sealed Elecraft K3 items in future auctions are also mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would hope that no one would bid on them but that won't happen. 73, Dave N8AG Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
Can't agree with you more Dave, I am into telescopes as well as ham radio, and there is a high end manufacturer of telescopes named Astro-Physics (www.astro-physics.com) They have a waiting list that goes for 3 to 4 years! Anyway, their policy is if they catch someone doing the scalp thing the person is blacklisted and is not allowed to purchase any more items from the company. I think Elecraft should follow suit. George ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
Amen, agree completely. Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: George Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction Can't agree with you more Dave, I am into telescopes as well as ham radio, and there is a high end manufacturer of telescopes named Astro-Physics (www.astro-physics.com) They have a waiting list that goes for 3 to 4 years! Anyway, their policy is if they catch someone doing the scalp thing the person is blacklisted and is not allowed to purchase any more items from the company. I think Elecraft should follow suit. George ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
I'll tell you what's not in the spirit of amateur radio Dave, and that's likening a fellow ham that you don't even know to a ticket scalper in public because you guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit. Do you know that? Dont think so because it isnt true. There are hundreds or thousands of ham radios on ebay at any given time and you of course are welcome to your opinion about this subject and ebay as much as anyone, but postings like this in one public is pretty bad juju. I was apprehensive when I ordered the gear, not because I was afraid of losing on it, but because I was doing it to have some fun while I waited for my own K3, a diversion like the wiki I created, and was afraid that someone might characterize me negatively about it. Rest assured there is not enough money that I could make on an auction (my last one occurred in 1999) to compromise my good name. So please, lighten up, it's not a body part I'm selling, it's a radio. Or don't lighten up, but keeping opinions that are based on conjecture in private is most often the best policy - IMO. de wb8yqj [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction Dave Agsten w4txs at yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 17:38:08 EDT 2008 I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio. I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that, free to do whatever is legal. The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and other fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other sealed Elecraft K3 items in future auctions are also mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would hope that no one would bid on them but that won't happen. Dave N8AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
Chill out Rasmussen, We all know know what you did... Can't hide your act. George On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Don Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you what's not in the spirit of amateur radio Dave, and that's likening a fellow ham that you don't even know to a ticket scalper in public because you guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit. Do you know that? Don't think so because it isn't true. There are hundreds or thousands of ham radios on ebay at any given time and you of course are welcome to your opinion about this subject and ebay as much as anyone, but postings like this in one public is pretty bad juju. I was apprehensive when I ordered the gear, not because I was afraid of losing on it, but because I was doing it to have some fun while I waited for my own K3, a diversion like the wiki I created, and was afraid that someone might characterize me negatively about it. Rest assured there is not enough money that I could make on an auction (my last one occurred in 1999) to compromise my good name. So please, lighten up, it's not a body part I'm selling, it's a radio. Or don't lighten up, but keeping opinions that are based on conjecture in private is most often the best policy - IMO. de wb8yqj [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction Dave Agsten w4txs at yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 17:38:08 EDT 2008 I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio. I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that, free to do whatever is legal. The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and other fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other sealed Elecraft K3 items in future auctions are also mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would hope that no one would bid on them but that won't happen. Dave N8AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K3 at Auction,
Don... You are offering New Elecraft K3/100 Transceiver kit in factory sealed box with Warranty and asking Reserve is set at today's selling price at Elecraft K3/100 assembled. $2089.95 A kit being offered at factory assembled pricing Did you make a mistake?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe. ... Albert Einstein. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 at Auction,
I see your point, but he is offering a K3 today versus a K3 at some future delivery date. He feels a K3 today carries a premium price. 73 Bob K4LW Don... You are offering New Elecraft K3/100 Transceiver kit in factory sealed box with Warranty and asking Reserve is set at today's selling price at Elecraft K3/100 assembled. $2089.95 A kit being offered at factory assembled pricing Did you make a mistake?? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
