Re: [Elecraft] RS232 DEVICES VIA KIO3B BOARD

2018-07-10 Thread Fred Jensen
You can get "null modems" that are just two back to back connectors.  
Amazon, search on "null modem".  They're small, cheap, and last a long 
time. [:-)


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/10/2018 11:32 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Kent,

You should be able to plug the Palstar cable into the cable from the 
K3 RJ-45 to RS-232 dongle.  A gender changer may be needed.

Worth a try anyway.

Or you could purchase a short RS-232 Crossover cable to replace the 
one to the tuner.


73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 DEVICES VIA KIO3B BOARD

2018-07-10 Thread Don Wilhelm

Kent,

You should be able to plug the Palstar cable into the cable from the K3 
RJ-45 to RS-232 dongle.  A gender changer may be needed.

Worth a try anyway.

Or you could purchase a short RS-232 Crossover cable to replace the one 
to the tuner.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 7/10/2018 12:10 PM, KENT TRIMBLE wrote:
The RS-232 thread comes coincidentally at a time when I have just 
experienced an RS-232 "gotcha."


If you own a Palstar AT-AUTO you need to remember that the RS-232 cable 
(null modem) originally supplied with the tuner is cross-wired (pin 2 to 
pin 3, and pin 3 to pin 2).  This is the correct wiring that allows the 
tuner to follow frequency excursions by the K3.


Recently I returned my K3 (sn 21) to Watsonville for hardware upgrades 
that included replacing the KIO3A board with the new KIO3B board (now 
standard on the K3S).  However, this new board no longer utilizes a DB-9 
connector for RS-232 functions, but instead uses a female RJ-45 socket 
for RS-232 functions.  This now renders obsolete the original 
DB9-equipped cable that came with the AT-AUTO.  Fortunately, Elecraft 
includes with the upgraded KIO3B board a pre-wired 30-inch RS-232 
cable.  This cable has an RJ-45 plug on one end and a DE9S plug on the 
other end.  Unfortunately, this cable is wired straight-through . . . no 
cross-wiring . . . which means no QSY following by the Palstar.



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Re: [Elecraft] RS232 DEVICES VIA KIO3B BOARD

2018-07-10 Thread Nr4c
Either plug the two cables together or with a “GenderChanger”. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jul 10, 2018, at 12:10 PM, KENT TRIMBLE  wrote:
> 
> The RS-232 thread comes coincidentally at a time when I have just experienced 
> an RS-232 "gotcha."
> 
> If you own a Palstar AT-AUTO you need to remember that the RS-232 cable (null 
> modem) originally supplied with the tuner is cross-wired (pin 2 to pin 3, and 
> pin 3 to pin 2).  This is the correct wiring that allows the tuner to follow 
> frequency excursions by the K3.
> 
> Recently I returned my K3 (sn 21) to Watsonville for hardware upgrades that 
> included replacing the KIO3A board with the new KIO3B board (now standard on 
> the K3S).  However, this new board no longer utilizes a DB-9 connector for 
> RS-232 functions, but instead uses a female RJ-45 socket for RS-232 
> functions.  This now renders obsolete the original DB9-equipped cable that 
> came with the AT-AUTO.  Fortunately, Elecraft includes with the upgraded 
> KIO3B board a pre-wired 30-inch RS-232 cable.  This cable has an RJ-45 plug 
> on one end and a DE9S plug on the other end.  Unfortunately, this cable is 
> wired straight-through . . . no cross-wiring . . . which means no QSY 
> following by the Palstar.
> 
> After spending more time than I care to admit in testing cable continuity, 
> serial baud settings, and configuration menus in both the K3 and the Palstar, 
> I suddenly tumbled to the fact that the Palstar cable is cross-wired while 
> the Elecraft cable is not.
> 
> Home-brewing a new cable with the proper wiring now permits the AT-AUTO to 
> follow band and frequency changes in the K3. Unfortunately, the Elecraft 
> cable uses molded connectors which prevented an easy and quick fix.
> 
> Just a tip for those who own either the original Palstar AT-AUTO or the newer 
> HF-AUTO (which I presume is wired the same), or for anyone using RS-232 
> peripheral devices who want to upgrade to the new KIO3B board.  Those 
> pin-outs in the manuals are there for a reason!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Kent Trimble, K9ZTV
> Jefferson City, Missouri
> 
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[Elecraft] RS232 DEVICES VIA KIO3B BOARD

2018-07-10 Thread KENT TRIMBLE
The RS-232 thread comes coincidentally at a time when I have just 
experienced an RS-232 "gotcha."


If you own a Palstar AT-AUTO you need to remember that the RS-232 cable 
(null modem) originally supplied with the tuner is cross-wired (pin 2 to 
pin 3, and pin 3 to pin 2).  This is the correct wiring that allows the 
tuner to follow frequency excursions by the K3.


Recently I returned my K3 (sn 21) to Watsonville for hardware upgrades 
that included replacing the KIO3A board with the new KIO3B board (now 
standard on the K3S).  However, this new board no longer utilizes a DB-9 
connector for RS-232 functions, but instead uses a female RJ-45 socket 
for RS-232 functions.  This now renders obsolete the original 
DB9-equipped cable that came with the AT-AUTO.  Fortunately, Elecraft 
includes with the upgraded KIO3B board a pre-wired 30-inch RS-232 
cable.  This cable has an RJ-45 plug on one end and a DE9S plug on the 
other end.  Unfortunately, this cable is wired straight-through . . . no 
cross-wiring . . . which means no QSY following by the Palstar.


After spending more time than I care to admit in testing cable 
continuity, serial baud settings, and configuration menus in both the K3 
and the Palstar, I suddenly tumbled to the fact that the Palstar cable 
is cross-wired while the Elecraft cable is not.


Home-brewing a new cable with the proper wiring now permits the AT-AUTO 
to follow band and frequency changes in the K3. Unfortunately, the 
Elecraft cable uses molded connectors which prevented an easy and quick fix.


Just a tip for those who own either the original Palstar AT-AUTO or the 
newer HF-AUTO (which I presume is wired the same), or for anyone using 
RS-232 peripheral devices who want to upgrade to the new KIO3B board.  
Those pin-outs in the manuals are there for a reason!


73,

Kent Trimble, K9ZTV
Jefferson City, Missouri

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