[Elecraft] Re: K3 noise reduction vs. Clear Speech speaker

2008-08-24 Thread KM5Q
Here is a comment I got off-line from a fellow who comments about CW  
(and I agree, though my comments applied to SSB):


quote --  I have been using MCU 2.23, but an older DSP 1.81 to get a  
decent
sound on CW.  The newer DSP takes too long to sync on the CW signal  
and it sounds like very soft keying when NR is on and about F=2--3 or  
so. ...  It brings the signal up out of the static, but destroys the  
leading edge of the CW signal.  At least that's what I'm seeing here.


--end of quote

Some guys like it the way it is, but there's a lot of agreement here  
that it's a work in progress, and has even been in digress lately. I  
know the developers are listening and I'm it's going to be improved.


Windy KM5Q
Santa Fe, NM
K3 #764
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 noise reduction vs. Clear Speech speaker

2008-08-24 Thread Brett Howard
I think I've noticed that... Its like the filter opens up a bit and
the static comes up but then when the tone is present the filter locks
in on it after a bit and the static comes down.  I have a feeling that
this phenomenon probably helps it to not obliterate weak signal CW
sigs but it can be a tad bit annoying with some of the mediocre to
loud sigs.

I agree that its a work in progress and if there was ever a guy who
will figure out a really slick way to do it its Lyle.  Lyle seems to
be growing and learning what works better along with the k3.  It takes
time to get things just right.  This coupled with the fact that there
is NO way to make everyone happy it can get even tougher.  But knowing
Lyle he'll strike a good balance and things will improve over time.

I'm interested to see/hear what they've been cooking up as of late...

~Brett

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM, KM5Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is a comment I got off-line from a fellow who comments about CW (and I
 agree, though my comments applied to SSB):

 quote --  I have been using MCU 2.23, but an older DSP 1.81 to get a decent
 sound on CW.  The newer DSP takes too long to sync on the CW signal and it
 sounds like very soft keying when NR is on and about F=2--3 or so. ...  It
 brings the signal up out of the static, but destroys the leading edge of the
 CW signal.  At least that's what I'm seeing here.

 --end of quote

 Some guys like it the way it is, but there's a lot of agreement here that
 it's a work in progress, and has even been in digress lately. I know the
 developers are listening and I'm it's going to be improved.

 Windy KM5Q
 Santa Fe, NM
 K3 #764
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 noise reduction vs. Clear Speech speaker

2008-08-24 Thread Brett Howard
I take this back..  After doing a bit of playing with the AGC decay
rate I was able to get things back in line with what I wanted for the
band conditions at the moment.  I gotta admit the AGC in the K3 is WAY
more than I've ever had available before.

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think I've noticed that... Its like the filter opens up a bit and
 the static comes up but then when the tone is present the filter locks
 in on it after a bit and the static comes down.  I have a feeling that
 this phenomenon probably helps it to not obliterate weak signal CW
 sigs but it can be a tad bit annoying with some of the mediocre to
 loud sigs.

 I agree that its a work in progress and if there was ever a guy who
 will figure out a really slick way to do it its Lyle.  Lyle seems to
 be growing and learning what works better along with the k3.  It takes
 time to get things just right.  This coupled with the fact that there
 is NO way to make everyone happy it can get even tougher.  But knowing
 Lyle he'll strike a good balance and things will improve over time.

 I'm interested to see/hear what they've been cooking up as of late...

 ~Brett

 On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM, KM5Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is a comment I got off-line from a fellow who comments about CW (and I
 agree, though my comments applied to SSB):

 quote --  I have been using MCU 2.23, but an older DSP 1.81 to get a decent
 sound on CW.  The newer DSP takes too long to sync on the CW signal and it
 sounds like very soft keying when NR is on and about F=2--3 or so. ...  It
 brings the signal up out of the static, but destroys the leading edge of the
 CW signal.  At least that's what I'm seeing here.

 --end of quote

 Some guys like it the way it is, but there's a lot of agreement here that
 it's a work in progress, and has even been in digress lately. I know the
 developers are listening and I'm it's going to be improved.

 Windy KM5Q
 Santa Fe, NM
 K3 #764
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