Re: [Elecraft] SK Station Disposition
The answer to both questions is obvious ... A ham, of course. Uff Da! -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Moore Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 6:31 AM To: Walter Underwood Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SK Station Disposition What kind of person would notice it? There's an element of genius in both! Andrew NV1B On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:29 PM Walter Underwood wrote: > What kind of person would put a list of states in almost, but not quite, > reverse alphabetical order? > > wunder > K6WRU > > > On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Edward Mccann wrote: > > > > To Ed’s point: > > > > “Some states recognize memorandums of personal property as legally > binding, but there are 20 states that don’t categorize them as legitimate > legal documents, including West Virginia, Vermont, Texas, Tennessee, > Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Ohio, Oklahoma, New Hampshire, North Carolina, > New York, Mississippi, Kentucky, Maryland, Louisiana, Illinois, Alabama, > Georgia, and Connecticut.” > > > > > > Ed McCann > > AG6CX > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Edward Dauer wrote: > >> > >> Related to the thread on helping other hams' families deal with their > >> stations after they go SK, there is an idea that I think I mentioned on > the > >> Reflector a couple of years ago, but which may be worth repeating given > >> that the general subject has come up again. I have to begin but saying > >> that, though a lawyer myself, I should not be understood as offering > legal > >> advice with the following note. I mention it only as something anyone > >> interested might want to pursue with their own counsel. > >> > >> Wills are complex instruments and, by themselves, sometimes cumbersome > in > >> dealing with personal property -- like amateur radio equipment -- that > may > >> change in shape and value over time. Amending a will can sometimes be a > >> big, by which I mean costly, deal. In many states, if not most, there > is > >> another way. It's called various things in various places, though > where I > >> live it's called a Memorandum Disposition of Personal Property. It's a > >> document that anyone can write, amend, tear up, whatever, at any time > >> without going through the trouble of amending a will or a trust. If the > >> Will correctly refers to it, the document becomes an effective way of > >> directing the disposition of tangible personal property. Using the > proper > >> form at the outset I can describe what I want to have happen to my > station, > >> or any piece of it, in a simple document that alone can write. If the > >> equipment list changes, and I want to change where the rest goes, I can > >> change the Memorandum. No need to amend the Will or a testamentary > trust. > >> > >> I should stop there, and say only that it's not widely known but t's > worth > >> looking into. > >> > >> Ted, KN1CBR > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to edwmcc...@gmail.com > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to andrew.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] SK Station Disposition
What kind of person would notice it? There's an element of genius in both! Andrew NV1B On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 11:29 PM Walter Underwood wrote: > What kind of person would put a list of states in almost, but not quite, > reverse alphabetical order? > > wunder > K6WRU > > > On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Edward Mccann wrote: > > > > To Ed’s point: > > > > “Some states recognize memorandums of personal property as legally > binding, but there are 20 states that don’t categorize them as legitimate > legal documents, including West Virginia, Vermont, Texas, Tennessee, > Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Ohio, Oklahoma, New Hampshire, North Carolina, > New York, Mississippi, Kentucky, Maryland, Louisiana, Illinois, Alabama, > Georgia, and Connecticut.” > > > > > > Ed McCann > > AG6CX > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Edward Dauer wrote: > >> > >> Related to the thread on helping other hams' families deal with their > >> stations after they go SK, there is an idea that I think I mentioned on > the > >> Reflector a couple of years ago, but which may be worth repeating given > >> that the general subject has come up again. I have to begin but saying > >> that, though a lawyer myself, I should not be understood as offering > legal > >> advice with the following note. I mention it only as something anyone > >> interested might want to pursue with their own counsel. > >> > >> Wills are complex instruments and, by themselves, sometimes cumbersome > in > >> dealing with personal property -- like amateur radio equipment -- that > may > >> change in shape and value over time. Amending a will can sometimes be a > >> big, by which I mean costly, deal. In many states, if not most, there > is > >> another way. It's called various things in various places, though > where I > >> live it's called a Memorandum Disposition of Personal Property. It's a > >> document that anyone can write, amend, tear up, whatever, at any time > >> without going through the trouble of amending a will or a trust. If the > >> Will correctly refers to it, the document becomes an effective way of > >> directing the disposition of tangible personal property. Using the > proper > >> form at the outset I can describe what I want to have happen to my > station, > >> or any piece of it, in a simple document that alone can write. If the > >> equipment list changes, and I want to change where the rest goes, I can > >> change the Memorandum. No need to amend the Will or a testamentary > trust. > >> > >> I should stop there, and say only that it's not widely known but t's > worth > >> looking into. > >> > >> Ted, KN1CBR > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to edwmcc...@gmail.com > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to andrew.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] SK Station Disposition
What kind of person would put a list of states in almost, but not quite, reverse alphabetical order? wunder K6WRU > On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Edward Mccann wrote: > > To Ed’s point: > > “Some states recognize memorandums of personal property as legally binding, > but there are 20 states that don’t categorize them as legitimate legal > documents, including West Virginia, Vermont, Texas, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, > Rhode Island, Ohio, Oklahoma, New Hampshire, North Carolina, New York, > Mississippi, Kentucky, Maryland, Louisiana, Illinois, Alabama, Georgia, and > Connecticut.” > > > Ed McCann > AG6CX > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Edward Dauer wrote: >> >> Related to the thread on helping other hams' families deal with their >> stations after they go SK, there is an idea that I think I mentioned on the >> Reflector a couple of years ago, but which may be worth repeating given >> that the general subject has come up again. I have to begin but saying >> that, though a lawyer myself, I should not be understood as offering legal >> advice with the following note. I mention it only as something anyone >> interested might want to pursue with their own counsel. >> >> Wills are complex instruments and, by themselves, sometimes cumbersome in >> dealing with personal property -- like amateur radio equipment -- that may >> change in shape and value over time. Amending a will can sometimes be a >> big, by which I mean costly, deal. In many states, if not most, there is >> another way. It's called various things in various places, though where I >> live it's called a Memorandum Disposition of Personal Property. It's a >> document that anyone can write, amend, tear up, whatever, at any time >> without going through the trouble of amending a will or a trust. If the >> Will correctly refers to it, the document becomes an effective way of >> directing the disposition of tangible personal property. Using the proper >> form at the outset I can describe what I want to have happen to my station, >> or any piece of it, in a simple document that alone can write. If the >> equipment list changes, and I want to change where the rest goes, I can >> change the Memorandum. No need to amend the Will or a testamentary trust. >> >> I should stop there, and say only that it's not widely known but t's worth >> looking into. >> >> Ted, KN1CBR >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to edwmcc...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] SK Station Disposition
To Ed’s point: “Some states recognize memorandums of personal property as legally binding, but there are 20 states that don’t categorize them as legitimate legal documents, including West Virginia, Vermont, Texas, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Ohio, Oklahoma, New Hampshire, North Carolina, New York, Mississippi, Kentucky, Maryland, Louisiana, Illinois, Alabama, Georgia, and Connecticut.” Ed McCann AG6CX Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Edward Dauer wrote: > > Related to the thread on helping other hams' families deal with their > stations after they go SK, there is an idea that I think I mentioned on the > Reflector a couple of years ago, but which may be worth repeating given > that the general subject has come up again. I have to begin but saying > that, though a lawyer myself, I should not be understood as offering legal > advice with the following note. I mention it only as something anyone > interested might want to pursue with their own counsel. > > Wills are complex instruments and, by themselves, sometimes cumbersome in > dealing with personal property -- like amateur radio equipment -- that may > change in shape and value over time. Amending a will can sometimes be a > big, by which I mean costly, deal. In many states, if not most, there is > another way. It's called various things in various places, though where I > live it's called a Memorandum Disposition of Personal Property. It's a > document that anyone can write, amend, tear up, whatever, at any time > without going through the trouble of amending a will or a trust. If the > Will correctly refers to it, the document becomes an effective way of > directing the disposition of tangible personal property. Using the proper > form at the outset I can describe what I want to have happen to my station, > or any piece of it, in a simple document that alone can write. If the > equipment list changes, and I want to change where the rest goes, I can > change the Memorandum. No need to amend the Will or a testamentary trust. > > I should stop there, and say only that it's not widely known but t's worth > looking into. > > Ted, KN1CBR > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to edwmcc...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] SK Station Disposition
Related to the thread on helping other hams' families deal with their stations after they go SK, there is an idea that I think I mentioned on the Reflector a couple of years ago, but which may be worth repeating given that the general subject has come up again. I have to begin but saying that, though a lawyer myself, I should not be understood as offering legal advice with the following note. I mention it only as something anyone interested might want to pursue with their own counsel. Wills are complex instruments and, by themselves, sometimes cumbersome in dealing with personal property -- like amateur radio equipment -- that may change in shape and value over time. Amending a will can sometimes be a big, by which I mean costly, deal. In many states, if not most, there is another way. It's called various things in various places, though where I live it's called a Memorandum Disposition of Personal Property. It's a document that anyone can write, amend, tear up, whatever, at any time without going through the trouble of amending a will or a trust. If the Will correctly refers to it, the document becomes an effective way of directing the disposition of tangible personal property. Using the proper form at the outset I can describe what I want to have happen to my station, or any piece of it, in a simple document that alone can write. If the equipment list changes, and I want to change where the rest goes, I can change the Memorandum. No need to amend the Will or a testamentary trust. I should stop there, and say only that it's not widely known but t's worth looking into. Ted, KN1CBR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
