RE: [Elecraft] Shouting at the Mic? (WAS: Which Heil Prosets should we carry?)

2007-12-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Toby wrote:

I suppose it might be a question of definition of what a raised voice is.

I'll never forget the first time I was in a studio during the 6PM news 
(actually it was shortly before 7PM) and was very surprised at the 
volume which the anchor used to speak. He did not shout (you breath 
differently when you shout) but he talked loudly.

I have heard this time and time again at work over the years, a loud 
voice is better than one which is too low. This does not mean shouting 
or yelling!

-

Of course I'm the one who interpreted your "shout" literally, Toby! 

I did so because I have worked in Field Day setups where people did that to
no good effect! 

The club finally started counseling sessions with each operator before
he/she went on the air. 

It sounds like you're talking about what we, here in the USA at least, call
projection rather than shouting. It's what a stage performer learns to do to
be heard throughout an auditorium without a megawatt of audio amplification.
It's not something most people do naturally, but something that comes
through a lot of voice training. 

In the broadcast biz we had a lot of such people because along with
"projection" they learned to enunciate and modulate their voices for the
most pleasant effect. The end result is a lot of volume and range with far
better than average understandability at all levels. 

I think it's almost a lost art these days, at least in the USA. More and
more I hear actors in films and TV mumbling their way through lines. It's a
real pleasure when an actor turns up who is perfectly clear and distinct,
even when whispering. 

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] Shouting at the Mic? (WAS: Which Heil Prosets should we carry?)

2007-12-29 Thread AJSOENKE
In a message dated 12/29/2007 3:01:31 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good evening, morning,  day or night,

> That's why air traffic controllers, emergency service  dispatchers and many
> others are carefully taught to *never* raise their  voices on the air. They
> need to be heard, and heard correctly, as  quickly as possible. 

I suppose it might be a question of definition of  what a raised voice is.

I'll never forget the first time I was in a  studio during the 6PM news 
(actually it was shortly before 7PM) and was very  surprised at the 
volume which the anchor used to speak. He did not shout  (you breath 
differently when you shout) but he talked loudly.

I have  heard this time and time again at work over the years, a loud 
voice is  better than one which is too low. This does not mean shouting 
or yelling!  According the sound techs this has something to do with the 
dynamic range of  the speech and allows lower microphone gain, which 
reduces the audio impact  of the room surrounding the speaker. Also lower 
microphone gain has the  advantage of picking less unwanted noise.

When I referred to shouting I  put in quotes on purpose, because I wanted 
to point out that when trying to  fish out a week one, even a normal 
level voice will seem like  shouting.


 
In a broadcast studio, you have sound engineers monitoring everything that  
goes in and out of the transmitter, modulation levels are high priority. So a  
good sounding announcer is where it starts, a good engineer is where it  flows.
 
Ham Ops need to be both!
 
Al WA6VNN



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Re: [Elecraft] Shouting at the Mic? (WAS: Which Heil Prosets should we carry?)

2007-12-29 Thread Toby Deinhardt

Good evening, morning, day or night,


That's why air traffic controllers, emergency service dispatchers and many
others are carefully taught to *never* raise their voices on the air. They
need to be heard, and heard correctly, as quickly as possible. 


I suppose it might be a question of definition of what a raised voice is.

I'll never forget the first time I was in a studio during the 6PM news 
(actually it was shortly before 7PM) and was very surprised at the 
volume which the anchor used to speak. He did not shout (you breath 
differently when you shout) but he talked loudly.


I have heard this time and time again at work over the years, a loud 
voice is better than one which is too low. This does not mean shouting 
or yelling! According the sound techs this has something to do with the 
dynamic range of the speech and allows lower microphone gain, which 
reduces the audio impact of the room surrounding the speaker. Also lower 
microphone gain has the advantage of picking less unwanted noise.


When I referred to shouting I put in quotes on purpose, because I wanted 
to point out that when trying to fish out a week one, even a normal 
level voice will seem like shouting.



vy 73 de toby es HAPPY NEW YEAR
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[Elecraft] Shouting at the Mic? (WAS: Which Heil Prosets should we carry?)

2007-12-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It's good your operators did well, but there's strong evidence their success
was in spite of their voice technique, not because of it. 

I based my comments on extensive studies done by military and commercial
services that showed that a raised, strained voice reduces communications
efficiency, especially in a stressful situation. 

That's why air traffic controllers, emergency service dispatchers and many
others are carefully taught to *never* raise their voices on the air. They
need to be heard, and heard correctly, as quickly as possible. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
My "Baptism of Fire" was with MD4K on the IOM in CQWW MM . Thirty seconds
after the contest started I was in shock..Five 
other operators, all in the same small room shouting their heads 
off. Transmitting  CQ and callsign, and hearing the same said by 
others, albeit not quite in sync is quite off-putting !

That fact they are GOOD OPERATORS was shown in the results table 
when it was published. They managed just fine.

The Heil headsets were about as good as a "Chocolate Fire Guard", 
however eventually my brain started filtering out the background 
noise. 

73
Stewart G3RXQ


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