Re: [Elecraft] Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

2010-11-15 Thread Randy Hall 
I am just glad to see Kenwood has finally hatched a new radio.

It has been a long time coming.

Yaesu FTxx-5000, Tentec Eagle, the more the better!

Randy
K7AGE
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Re: [Elecraft] Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

2010-11-15 Thread Eugene Balinski 
   I am sure that they were all design trade-offs made to
get the radio to meet a certain market price point.  The
question is "how much bang do you get for the buck"?  Is a
K-3 worth the (nominal) $1,200 more ? 

To us, the answer is yes.  To others, the improvement
seen in the receiver may not be worth the extra money given
the manner is which they operate.  Also, there are plenty
of hams that can just not afford a $3,000.00 + radio no
matter how good it is,  and the Kenwood gives them a nice
rig for the price point.   As they say,  different
strokes

73
Gene K1NR

K2 - 6Kxx


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:17:56 -0800
 Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> They're probably trying to save money by eliminating a
> bunch of tight  
> band-pass filters for the ham bands. They're betting that
> no one needs  
> high dynamic range on any bands other than
> 1.8/3.5/7/14/21 MHz, nor on  
> any modes other than SSB/FSK/CW.
> 
> I beg to differ :)
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:38 PM, k2qi@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone
> else here  
> > well versed in radio design please explain to me why
> the Kenwood  
> > engineers would do this?
> >
> > Tnx,
> > James K2QI
> > --Original Message--
> > From: Larry Phipps
> > To: James Sarte
> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu
> FTDX5000MP
> > Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50
> >
> >  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12,
> 10 or 6m.
> >
> > Larry N8LP
> >
> >
> > On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
> >> This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
> >>
> >> "For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving
> in CW/FSK/SSB
> >> modes down conversion is selected automatically if the
> final passband
> >> is 2.7kHz or less"
> >>
> >> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater
> than 2700 Hz,
> >> the receiver switches to upconversion?!?
> >>
> >> James K2QI
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP
>  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of
> with a 3rd  
> >> party
> >>panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4
> selling versions of
> >>LP-PAN.
> >>They were smart enough to include a built in IF
> output. More than
> >>I can say
> >>for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF
> output jack on
> >>their latest
> >>offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest
> conversion scheme
> >>I have
> >>seen in a long time.
> >>
> >>Larry N8LP
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

2010-11-15 Thread Wayne Burdick 
They're probably trying to save money by eliminating a bunch of tight  
band-pass filters for the ham bands. They're betting that no one needs  
high dynamic range on any bands other than 1.8/3.5/7/14/21 MHz, nor on  
any modes other than SSB/FSK/CW.

I beg to differ :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:38 PM, k2qi@gmail.com wrote:

> That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here  
> well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood  
> engineers would do this?
>
> Tnx,
> James K2QI
> --Original Message--
> From: Larry Phipps
> To: James Sarte
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
> Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50
>
>  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.
>
> Larry N8LP
>
>
> On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
>> This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
>>
>> "For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB
>> modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband
>> is 2.7kHz or less"
>>
>> So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz,
>> the receiver switches to upconversion?!?
>>
>> James K2QI
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd  
>> party
>>panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
>>LP-PAN.
>>They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
>>I can say
>>for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
>>their latest
>>offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
>>I have
>>seen in a long time.
>>
>>Larry N8LP
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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