[Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread Paul
I've only had my K3 on the air for a couple days...trying to figure out all the 
bells and whistles.

Here's my problem:

K4M (Midway DXpedition) is transmitting on let's say, 7.004 listening up 25.

So I go SPLIT, tune VFO B up to about 7.020. Now I want to spot the guy he's 
working and transmit there right afterward.
I'm looking for the guy, I hit REV and listen. I don't hear him, so I want to 
tune up or down and find him. But when I turn VFO A's knob (which is showing my 
Xmit frequency, the VFO B display (K4M's run freq) also changes, so when I drop 
REV I'm no longer on his 7.004 frequency.

How are you supposed to do this? Is there an option that ties them together 
somewhere? LOCK is off.

I used the SUB receiver, and then I can listen to my xmit freq in one ear, but 
that doesn't seem necessary. 

Paul
WY7I
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Re: [Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread Paul
Yes, that's IT !

Thanks!
- Original Message - 
From: Alexandr Kobranov kobra...@amoscz.cz
To: Paul paul.rei...@earthlink.net
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Spotting DX


Hi Paul,

you have linked VFO´s I suppose.
Press SUB until you will se UNLINKED.

My first idea...

73!
Lexa, ok1dst


Paul napsal(a):
 I've only had my K3 on the air for a couple days...trying to figure out 
 all the bells and whistles.

 Here's my problem:

 K4M (Midway DXpedition) is transmitting on let's say, 7.004 listening up 
 25.

 So I go SPLIT, tune VFO B up to about 7.020. Now I want to spot the guy 
 he's working and transmit there right afterward.
 I'm looking for the guy, I hit REV and listen. I don't hear him, so I want 
 to tune up or down and find him. But when I turn VFO A's knob (which is 
 showing my Xmit frequency, the VFO B display (K4M's run freq) also 
 changes, so when I drop REV I'm no longer on his 7.004 frequency.

 How are you supposed to do this? Is there an option that ties them 
 together somewhere? LOCK is off.

 I used the SUB receiver, and then I can listen to my xmit freq in one ear, 
 but that doesn't seem necessary.
 Paul
 WY7I
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Re: [Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul,

You may have held the SUB button in a bit too long and the VFOs were 
'linked'
Hold the SUB button and you will see unlink briefly in the VFO B area.

73,
Don W3FPR

Paul wrote:
 I've only had my K3 on the air for a couple days...trying to figure out all 
 the bells and whistles.

 Here's my problem:

 K4M (Midway DXpedition) is transmitting on let's say, 7.004 listening up 25.

 So I go SPLIT, tune VFO B up to about 7.020. Now I want to spot the guy he's 
 working and transmit there right afterward.
 I'm looking for the guy, I hit REV and listen. I don't hear him, so I want to 
 tune up or down and find him. But when I turn VFO A's knob (which is showing 
 my Xmit frequency, the VFO B display (K4M's run freq) also changes, so when I 
 drop REV I'm no longer on his 7.004 frequency.

 How are you supposed to do this? Is there an option that ties them together 
 somewhere? LOCK is off.

 I used the SUB receiver, and then I can listen to my xmit freq in one ear, 
 but that doesn't seem necessary. 

 Paul
 WY7I
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Re: [Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread David M. Elliott
Paul,

Others have suggested unlinking the VFOs and this is necessary but not  
really sufficient.  It all depends on the dx operators.  Those at K4M  
seem to listen on the same frequency long enough for you to find them  
and tailgate the previous station.  On the other hand, the Glorioso  
operators mostly moved randomly over a large frequency range after  
every QSO.  Impossible to tailgate.  Pick a frequency near the middle  
of their listening range and just park there.  It takes a  
frustratingly long time but it will work eventually assuming that your  
signal is strong enough for them to hear it over the noise.

If you don't have the sub receiver, it makes this a lot easier.  I  
consider it a necessity.

73 de W6BK


On Oct 15, 2009, at 6:19 AM, Paul wrote:

 I've only had my K3 on the air for a couple days...trying to figure  
 out all the bells and whistles.

 Here's my problem:

 K4M (Midway DXpedition) is transmitting on let's say, 7.004  
 listening up 25.

 So I go SPLIT, tune VFO B up to about 7.020. Now I want to spot the  
 guy he's working and transmit there right afterward.
 I'm looking for the guy, I hit REV and listen. I don't hear him, so  
 I want to tune up or down and find him. But when I turn VFO A's knob  
 (which is showing my Xmit frequency, the VFO B display (K4M's run  
 freq) also changes, so when I drop REV I'm no longer on his 7.004  
 frequency.

 How are you supposed to do this? Is there an option that ties them  
 together somewhere? LOCK is off.

 I used the SUB receiver, and then I can listen to my xmit freq in  
 one ear, but that doesn't seem necessary.

 Paul
 WY7I
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Re: [Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread wb6rse1
With diversity RX on the K3 - IE VFOs synched, you can also operate  
split. HOLD SPLIT to enable TX on VFO B. Then HOLD REV and use VFO A  
to listen and tune to the split TX frequency. Release REV and  
diversity RX is restored.

A very elegant implementation by designers who must also be actual  
operators!

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread David M. Elliott
Yes.  Isn't it wonderful.  They also read this reflector and respond,  
sometimes within minutes, to important issues.  Wouldn't it be nice if  
some of our elected representatives did this?

73 de W6BK

On Oct 15, 2009, at 9:04 AM, wb6r...@mac.com wrote:

 With diversity RX on the K3 - IE VFOs synched, you can also operate  
 split. HOLD SPLIT to enable TX on VFO B. Then HOLD REV and use VFO A  
 to listen and tune to the split TX frequency. Release REV and  
 diversity RX is restored.

 A very elegant implementation by designers who must also be actual  
 operators!

 73 - Steve WB6RSE

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[Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread Jim


I know you can listen to two conversations on different VFO's (Frequencies
at the same time when you have the Sub Receiver Installed; However with no
Sub Receiver I believe this is this correct? If you don't have the sub
receiver  listening using a set of headphones like a Heil Pro set you
cannot listen to both sides of a conversation at the same time WHEN both VFO
A and B set...VFO A at 14.195 and VFO B at 14.205...you must always
push the REV to listen to B. They can never be heard at the same time???
Correct???

73 de KE4WY Jim


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[Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread Robert Beard
Hi Jim,

In your scenario - split with simultaneous signals, yes, you must have both 
receivers.

However, you can work split just fine with one receiver and two VFOs, but you 
have to hop back and forth between the VFOs, using whatever method you prefer.

It is also possible to split with a single VFO, if there is RIT or XIT 
available.

Worked 3Y0X, split, with the KX1 which has only RIT available

Rob, N6VX

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Re: [Elecraft] Spotting DX

2009-10-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
Jim wrote:

 I know you can listen to two conversations on different VFO's  
 (Frequencies
 at the same time when you have the Sub Receiver Installed; However  
 with no
 Sub Receiver I believe this is this correct? If you don't have  
 the sub
 receiver  listening using a set of headphones like a Heil Pro set you
 cannot listen to both sides of a conversation at the same time WHEN  
 both VFO
 A and B set...VFO A at 14.195 and VFO B at 14.205...you must  
 always
 push the REV to listen to B. They can never be heard at the same  
 time???
 Correct???

Correct: You cannot listen on two frequencies at the same time unless  
you have the sub receiver. But you can always hold REV or tap A/B to  
listen to the station at VFO B's frequency.

Some transceivers have something called dual watch, which splits the  
receive path at the mixer input. We didn't want to take this simpler  
approach, because it doesn't provide diversity receive. That takes two  
separate receivers with independent antennas. Hence the KRX3.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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