[Elecraft] Static discharge
Christmas Day 1967. Snow falling heavily. I had a 2 element Cubical Quad at 50 feet. Separate feed lines for 3 bands. I heard a loud CRACK. I kept occurring. Like an ignorant operator I had not grounded the unused feed lines. I finally realized that the coax was arcing at the PL 259. I grabbed it with my hands. I won’t do that again. Fifty + years ago I was still learning. I continue to learn from my mistakes 73 Jim W9VNE/VA3VNE Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
There has been very low humidity this week, and I have had some shocks at home. When we got lots of static discharge shocks after walking on my mother-in-law's carpet, I put some 1 Meg Ohm resistors under the light switch cover screw for her to touch in the winter before the switch. Silly idea but it worked to discharge all the static but so slowly as to not experience the shock. There might be a similar solution to touching the K-Pod. My K-Pod arrived today, and my only annoyance is that the cables are too short for both the radio line and the 12v line. On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 5:42 PM, Nr4c wrote: > Try a humidifier to reduce the static. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Mar 15, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Chuck Milam, N9KY wrote: > > > > Greetings, All! > > > > I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need > > some suggestions for mitigation. > > > > Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of > the > > shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab > > the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. Further investigation shows I'm getting > > static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this > morning > > I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the > > K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle. > > > > The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic > > chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat > is > > probably contributing to the static problem. > > > > Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod > and > > then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation > > strategies. I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, > which > > used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days. > > > > 73, > > > > Chuck Milam, N9KY > > n...@arrl.net > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w3tb@gmail.com > -- 73 de Ted Edwards, W3TB and GØPWW and thinking about operating CW: "Do today what others won't, so you can do tomorrow what others can't." __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Try a humidifier to reduce the static. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Mar 15, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Chuck Milam, N9KY wrote: > > Greetings, All! > > I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need > some suggestions for mitigation. > > Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the > shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab > the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. Further investigation shows I'm getting > static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this morning > I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the > K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle. > > The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic > chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat is > probably contributing to the static problem. > > Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod and > then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation > strategies. I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, which > used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days. > > 73, > > Chuck Milam, N9KY > n...@arrl.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Warning! Until that dries, it could be very slippery! On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: Mix a solution of 1 part DOWNY fabric softener and 1 part water. Put it in a spray bottle and mist the carpet. You may need to mist the plastic chair pad as well. This should take care of the static issue for quite some time. If it returns, mist it again. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 3/15/2018 1:52 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 23 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 18:42:09 + From: "Larry (K8UT)" To: "Chuck Milam, N9KY", "Elecraft Mail List" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Chuck, I had this problem in my carpeted shack with a desk chair rolling around on a vinyl chair pad. After a little testing I determined that the metal case of the K-Pod is not grounded. The KPod uses a straight-through 6 conductor cable with identical RJ connectors on each end. I built a slightly longer cable for my KPod, using 6 conductors of a stranded 8 conductor flat ethernet wire. A 7th conductor provides chassis ground from the K3 to the metal case of the KPod. I have had zero issues since grounding the K-Pod case. -larry (K8UT) -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" To: "Elecraft Mail List" Sent: 2018-03-15 11:08:03 Subject: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod Greetings, All! I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need some suggestions for mitigation. Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. Further investigation shows I'm getting static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this morning I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle. The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat is probably contributing to the static problem. Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod and then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation strategies. I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, which used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days. 73, Chuck Milam, N9KY n...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered tok...@charter.net -- Message: 24 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:52:00 -0500 From: James Wilson To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Chuck, I'm also in an area of low humidity and such static discharges are a problem. I have everything grounded together and a small patch of aluminum foil connected with a 1 megohn resistor. After a trip across the carpet and before touching anything, I touch the foil. The resistor prevents a spark but discharges the charge. That may be worth a try for you. Jim - W4RKS - I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need some suggestions for mitigation. Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ht...@twofifty.com -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE + BSChem + BAEnglish + MSCS + $2.50 = coffee __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Mix a solution of 1 part DOWNY fabric softener and 1 part water. Put it in a spray bottle and mist the carpet. You may need to mist the plastic chair pad as well. This should take care of the static issue for quite some time. If it returns, mist it again. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 3/15/2018 1:52 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 23 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 18:42:09 + From: "Larry (K8UT)" To: "Chuck Milam, N9KY", "Elecraft Mail List" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Chuck, I had this problem in my carpeted shack with a desk chair rolling around on a vinyl chair pad. After a little testing I determined that the metal case of the K-Pod is not grounded. The KPod uses a straight-through 6 conductor cable with identical RJ connectors on each end. I built a slightly longer cable for my KPod, using 6 conductors of a stranded 8 conductor flat ethernet wire. A 7th conductor provides chassis ground from the K3 to the metal case of the KPod. I have had zero issues since grounding the K-Pod case. -larry (K8UT) -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" To: "Elecraft Mail List" Sent: 2018-03-15 11:08:03 Subject: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod Greetings, All! I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need some suggestions for mitigation. Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. Further investigation shows I'm getting static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this morning I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle. The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat is probably contributing to the static problem. Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod and then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation strategies. I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, which used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days. 73, Chuck Milam, N9KY n...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered tok...@charter.net -- Message: 24 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:52:00 -0500 From: James Wilson To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Chuck, I'm also in an area of low humidity and such static discharges are a problem. I have everything grounded together and a small patch of aluminum foil connected with a 1 megohn resistor. After a trip across the carpet and before touching anything, I touch the foil. The resistor prevents a spark but discharges the charge. That may be worth a try for you. Jim - W4RKS - I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need some suggestions for mitigation. Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
The real issue here is the lack of household humidity. A humidifier is probably in the real fix. Several hours of a near-boiling pan of water on the kitchen stove would likely be enlightening. Or, get a "real' anti-static (desk size) work mat with wrist strap. I have one permanently atop my operating desk in front of my K2 and K3. Hint: Amazon is your friend. (:-) 73! K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Chuck, I'm also in an area of low humidity and such static discharges are a problem. I have everything grounded together and a small patch of aluminum foil connected with a 1 megohn resistor. After a trip across the carpet and before touching anything, I touch the foil. The resistor prevents a spark but discharges the charge. That may be worth a try for you. Jim - W4RKS - >I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need >some suggestions for mitigation. >Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the >shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab >the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Chuck, I had this problem in my carpeted shack with a desk chair rolling around on a vinyl chair pad. After a little testing I determined that the metal case of the K-Pod is not grounded. The KPod uses a straight-through 6 conductor cable with identical RJ connectors on each end. I built a slightly longer cable for my KPod, using 6 conductors of a stranded 8 conductor flat ethernet wire. A 7th conductor provides chassis ground from the K3 to the metal case of the KPod. I have had zero issues since grounding the K-Pod case. -larry (K8UT) -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" To: "Elecraft Mail List" Sent: 2018-03-15 11:08:03 Subject: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod Greetings, All! I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need some suggestions for mitigation. Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. Further investigation shows I'm getting static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this morning I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle. The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat is probably contributing to the static problem. Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod and then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation strategies. I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, which used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days. 73, Chuck Milam, N9KY n...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@charter.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Greetings, All! I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need some suggestions for mitigation. Background: I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab the mouse, the K-Pod will beep. Further investigation shows I'm getting static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this morning I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle. The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat is probably contributing to the static problem. Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod and then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation strategies. I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, which used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days. 73, Chuck Milam, N9KY n...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com