[Elecraft] Static discharge

2019-09-28 Thread Jim Danehy
Christmas Day 1967. 

Snow falling heavily. 

I had a 2 element Cubical Quad at 50 feet.

Separate feed lines for 3 bands.

I heard a loud CRACK. I kept occurring. Like an ignorant operator I had not 
grounded the unused feed lines. I finally realized that the coax was arcing at 
the PL 259. I grabbed it with my hands. I won’t do that again.

Fifty + years ago I was still learning. I continue to learn from my mistakes

73

Jim
W9VNE/VA3VNE 



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Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod

2018-03-15 Thread Ted Edwards W3TB
There has been very low humidity this week, and I have had some shocks at
home.

When we got lots of static discharge shocks after walking on my
mother-in-law's carpet, I put some 1 Meg Ohm resistors under the light
switch cover screw for her to touch in the winter before the switch.  Silly
idea but it worked to discharge all the static but so slowly as to not
experience the shock.  There might be a similar solution to touching the
K-Pod.

My K-Pod arrived today, and my only annoyance is that the cables are too
short for both the radio line and the 12v line.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 5:42 PM, Nr4c  wrote:

> Try a humidifier to reduce the static.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Mar 15, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Chuck Milam, N9KY  wrote:
> >
> > Greetings, All!
> >
> > I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
> > some suggestions for mitigation.
> >
> > Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of
> the
> > shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab
> > the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.  Further investigation shows I'm getting
> > static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this
> morning
> > I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the
> > K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle.
> >
> > The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic
> > chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat
> is
> > probably contributing to the static problem.
> >
> > Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod
> and
> > then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation
> > strategies.  I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat,
> which
> > used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Chuck Milam, N9KY
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Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod

2018-03-15 Thread Nr4c
Try a humidifier to reduce the static. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Mar 15, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Chuck Milam, N9KY  wrote:
> 
> Greetings, All!
> 
> I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
> some suggestions for mitigation.
> 
> Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the
> shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab
> the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.  Further investigation shows I'm getting
> static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this morning
> I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the
> K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle.
> 
> The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic
> chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat is
> probably contributing to the static problem.
> 
> Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod and
> then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation
> strategies.  I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, which
> used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Chuck Milam, N9KY
> n...@arrl.net
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Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod

2018-03-15 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

Warning! Until that dries, it could be very slippery!

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

Mix a solution of 1 part DOWNY fabric softener and 1 part water. Put it 
in a spray bottle and mist the carpet.  You may need to mist the plastic 
chair pad as well.   This should take care of the static issue for quite 
some time.  If it returns, mist it again.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 3/15/2018 1:52 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Message: 23
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 18:42:09 +
From: "Larry (K8UT)"
To: "Chuck Milam, N9KY", "Elecraft Mail List"
    
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8

Chuck,

I had this problem in my carpeted shack with a desk chair rolling around
on a vinyl chair pad. After a little testing I determined that the metal
case of the K-Pod is not grounded.

The KPod uses a straight-through 6 conductor cable with identical RJ
connectors on each end. I built a slightly longer cable for my KPod,
using 6 conductors of a stranded 8 conductor flat ethernet wire. A 7th
conductor provides chassis ground from the K3 to the metal case of the
KPod.

I have had zero issues since grounding the K-Pod case.

-larry (K8UT)

-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY"
To: "Elecraft Mail List"
Sent: 2018-03-15 11:08:03
Subject: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod


Greetings, All!

I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
some suggestions for mitigation.

Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of
the
shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and
grab
the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.  Further investigation shows I'm
getting
static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this
morning
I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the
K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle.

The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those
plastic
chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that
mat is
probably contributing to the static problem.

Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod
and
then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation
strategies.  I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat,
which
used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days.

73,

Chuck Milam, N9KY
n...@arrl.net
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:52:00 -0500
From: James Wilson
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Chuck,

I'm also in an area of low humidity and such static discharges

are a problem. I have everything grounded together and a small

patch of aluminum foil connected with a 1 megohn resistor. After

a trip across the carpet and before touching anything, I touch the

foil. The resistor prevents a spark but discharges the charge. That

may be worth a try for you.

Jim - W4RKS

-


I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
some suggestions for mitigation.
Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the
shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab
the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.


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[Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod

2018-03-15 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Mix a solution of 1 part DOWNY fabric softener and 1 part water. Put it 
in a spray bottle and mist the carpet.  You may need to mist the plastic 
chair pad as well.   This should take care of the static issue for quite 
some time.  If it returns, mist it again.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 3/15/2018 1:52 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Message: 23
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 18:42:09 +
From: "Larry (K8UT)"
To: "Chuck Milam, N9KY", "Elecraft Mail List"
    
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8

Chuck,

I had this problem in my carpeted shack with a desk chair rolling around
on a vinyl chair pad. After a little testing I determined that the metal
case of the K-Pod is not grounded.

The KPod uses a straight-through 6 conductor cable with identical RJ
connectors on each end. I built a slightly longer cable for my KPod,
using 6 conductors of a stranded 8 conductor flat ethernet wire. A 7th
conductor provides chassis ground from the K3 to the metal case of the
KPod.

I have had zero issues since grounding the K-Pod case.

-larry (K8UT)

-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY"
To: "Elecraft Mail List"
Sent: 2018-03-15 11:08:03
Subject: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod


Greetings, All!

I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
some suggestions for mitigation.

Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of
the
shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and
grab
the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.  Further investigation shows I'm
getting
static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this
morning
I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the
K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle.

The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those
plastic
chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that
mat is
probably contributing to the static problem.

Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod
and
then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation
strategies.  I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat,
which
used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days.

73,

Chuck Milam, N9KY
n...@arrl.net
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:52:00 -0500
From: James Wilson
To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Chuck,

I'm also in an area of low humidity and such static discharges

are a problem. I have everything grounded together and a small

patch of aluminum foil connected with a 1 megohn resistor. After

a trip across the carpet and before touching anything, I touch the

foil. The resistor prevents a spark but discharges the charge. That

may be worth a try for you.

Jim - W4RKS

-


I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
some suggestions for mitigation.
Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the
shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab
the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.


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Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod

2018-03-15 Thread Ken G Kopp
The real issue here is the lack of household humidity.  A humidifier is
probably in the real fix.  Several hours of a near-boiling pan of water on
the kitchen stove would likely be enlightening.

Or, get a "real' anti-static (desk size) work mat with wrist strap.  I have
one permanently atop my operating desk in front of my K2 and K3.

Hint: Amazon is your friend.  (:-)

73!

K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod

2018-03-15 Thread James Wilson
Chuck,

I'm also in an area of low humidity and such static discharges

are a problem. I have everything grounded together and a small

patch of aluminum foil connected with a 1 megohn resistor. After

a trip across the carpet and before touching anything, I touch the

foil. The resistor prevents a spark but discharges the charge. That

may be worth a try for you.

Jim - W4RKS

-

>I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
>some suggestions for mitigation.

>Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the
>shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab
>the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.
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Re: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod

2018-03-15 Thread Larry (K8UT)

Chuck,

I had this problem in my carpeted shack with a desk chair rolling around 
on a vinyl chair pad. After a little testing I determined that the metal 
case of the K-Pod is not grounded.


The KPod uses a straight-through 6 conductor cable with identical RJ 
connectors on each end. I built a slightly longer cable for my KPod, 
using 6 conductors of a stranded 8 conductor flat ethernet wire. A 7th 
conductor provides chassis ground from the K3 to the metal case of the 
KPod.


I have had zero issues since grounding the K-Pod case.

-larry (K8UT)

-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" 
To: "Elecraft Mail List" 
Sent: 2018-03-15 11:08:03
Subject: [Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod


Greetings, All!

I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
some suggestions for mitigation.

Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of 
the
shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and 
grab
the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.  Further investigation shows I'm 
getting
static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this 
morning

I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the
K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle.

The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those 
plastic
chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that 
mat is

probably contributing to the static problem.

Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod 
and

then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation
strategies.  I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, 
which

used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days.

73,

Chuck Milam, N9KY
n...@arrl.net
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[Elecraft] Static Discharge Through K-Pod

2018-03-15 Thread Chuck Milam, N9KY
Greetings, All!

I'm getting static electricity shocks through my K-Pod case, and I need
some suggestions for mitigation.

Background:  I keep my K-Pod on my operating desk just to the right of the
shack computer mouse. I've noticed when I walk over to the desk and grab
the mouse, the K-Pod will beep.  Further investigation shows I'm getting
static electricity discharge from my finger through the K-Pod, this morning
I even noticed an arc from my pinky finger to the K-Pod case. When the
K-Pod beeps, the D1 and D2 lights will cycle.

The shack is carpeted, and I have a rolling chair on one of those plastic
chair mats (which can probably go away if necessary,) I suspect that mat is
probably contributing to the static problem.

Obviously, I don't want static electricity discharging through my K-Pod and
then through my K3. I'd welcome any ideas for static mitigation
strategies.  I was thinking some sort of grounded mouse/keyboard mat, which
used to be more common, but seem hard to find these days.

73,

Chuck Milam, N9KY
n...@arrl.net
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