Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
I've been running a pair of K2s + 5 XV transverters + KRC2 in my rover for 5+ years now .. the only time I had problems was when the leaky roof in the previous rover vehicle dripped too much water in one of them, we had to open it up and prop it on the dashboard with A/C running for 15 minutes to dry it out and then it worked fine again They've not had an easy life .. some of the roads I rove on are pretty interesting ;) de w1rt/john On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:52 AM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > Field Users, > > Which Elecraft products stand up best to knocks, bumps, etc. seen while > fielding a station? > > Thanks. > > John, kx4o > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
All of them I bet. I use my K3 on field events. Planning to substitute my KX3 when it arrives. Perhaps the lightest bounces better. 73, tom n4zpt On 4/9/2012 9:52 AM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > Field Users, > > Which Elecraft products stand up best to knocks, bumps, etc. seen while > fielding a station? > > Thanks. > > John, kx4o __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
John, Part of that 'common sense' if you are using the internal battery option is to turn the battery switch off when packing so the K2 is not accidentally turned on. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/9/2012 5:20 PM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > The ultimate goal is backpacking a 10W K2 on certain trips. Thanks to all > for the inputs thus far. It sounds like things should be fine so long as > common sense is applied to packing plus no drop kicking of the pack. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
The ultimate goal is backpacking a 10W K2 on certain trips. Thanks to all for the inputs thus far. It sounds like things should be fine so long as common sense is applied to packing plus no drop kicking of the pack. John, kx4o On Mon, April 9, 2012 19:56, Mike Heitmann wrote: > I can vouch for that. I backpack with my KX1 and have never had a problem > with it. It's been a workhorse for me, and will continue to serve in that > capacity until my KX3 arrives (although, I'm beginning to wonder if that > will ever really happen). > > I also have a K2 with the 100W and and auto tuner in a separate > enlcosure. Never a problem with them either. I've not ever taken the K2 > backpacking but I have used it for fixed portable ops and for demos and > had no trouble with it. They're pretty tough when properly assembled. > > Mike, N0SO > > >> is fragile, modern electronics is not). I have over 600 repairs to my >> credit and have never seen a broken toroid wire. > >> If the toroids are mounted with the leads snugged down, they will not >> move substantially after soldering. > >> 73, >> Don W3FPR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
I can vouch for that. I backpack with my KX1 and have never had a problem with it. It's been a workhorse for me, and will continue to serve in that capacity until my KX3 arrives (although, I'm beginning to wonder if that will ever really happen). I also have a K2 with the 100W and and auto tuner in a separate enlcosure. Never a problem with them either. I've not ever taken the K2 backpacking but I have used it for fixed portable ops and for demos and had no trouble with it. They're pretty tough when properly assembled. Mike, N0SO >I built a K2 for a gentleman who installed it in his 18 wheeler, and it >traveled all over the country for 4 or 5 years. Never had a problem >with it. Many others take their K1 or K2 or KX1 along in a backpack or >in the case of the KX1 even in a shirt pocket - some pad the rig >carefully, others just make certain the knobs and antenna jacks will not >receive a sharp blow. I do not regard these rigs as fragile (glass is >fragile, modern electronics is not). I have over 600 repairs to my >credit and have never seen a broken toroid wire. >If the toroids are mounted with the leads snugged down, they will not >move substantially after soldering. >73, >Don W3FPR On 4/9/2012 10:40 AM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > Understood about the external features Ingo and good advice. > > My primary concern is over the internal soundness of products touted as > portable. > > Thruhole and surface mount components are quite sturdy. Edge and header > connectors are, well, good enough most times. > > My primary concern are those round masses held with wisps of wire... > toroids. Has anyone ever seen toroids come loose and turn their rig into > a maraca? > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
John, I built a K2 for a gentleman who installed it in his 18 wheeler, and it traveled all over the country for 4 or 5 years. Never had a problem with it. Many others take their K1 or K2 or KX1 along in a backpack or in the case of the KX1 even in a shirt pocket - some pad the rig carefully, others just make certain the knobs and antenna jacks will not receive a sharp blow. I do not regard these rigs as fragile (glass is fragile, modern electronics is not). I have over 600 repairs to my credit and have never seen a broken toroid wire. If the toroids are mounted with the leads snugged down, they will not move substantially after soldering. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/9/2012 10:40 AM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > Understood about the external features Ingo and good advice. > > My primary concern is over the internal soundness of products touted as > portable. > > Thruhole and surface mount components are quite sturdy. Edge and header > connectors are, well, good enough most times. > > My primary concern are those round masses held with wisps of wire... > toroids. Has anyone ever seen toroids come loose and turn their rig into > a maraca? > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
The toroids in the K2 and K3 (the rigs I am familiar with) are relatively small and they are held firmly enough by their leads that I haven't heard of any problems such as you describe. I recall a long-haul truck driver who had a K2 in his truck; he reported no trouble from the vibration. Elecraft does NOT recommend that you use any kind of goop (technical term) to secure the toroids. It is not needed and can prevent adjustments to turn spacing or detune a circuit. I take my K2 camping and to field day and have never had anything come loose after more than 10 years. On 4/9/2012 7:40 AM, John Huggins, kx4o wrote: > Understood about the external features Ingo and good advice. > > My primary concern is over the internal soundness of products touted as > portable. > > Thruhole and surface mount components are quite sturdy. Edge and header > connectors are, well, good enough most times. > > My primary concern are those round masses held with wisps of wire... > toroids. Has anyone ever seen toroids come loose and turn their rig into > a maraca? > > John, kx4o -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
Understood about the external features Ingo and good advice. My primary concern is over the internal soundness of products touted as portable. Thruhole and surface mount components are quite sturdy. Edge and header connectors are, well, good enough most times. My primary concern are those round masses held with wisps of wire... toroids. Has anyone ever seen toroids come loose and turn their rig into a maraca? John, kx4o On Mon, April 9, 2012 13:59, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote: > > > I think the elecraft transceiver are all robust for fielddays or portable > use. But all transceivers have knobs, jackets and displays, which shold be > sheltered during transportation. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Toughness
He John, > Which Elecraft products stand up best to knocks, bumps, etc. seen while > fielding a station? Do not knock your transceiver! ;o) I think the elecraft transceiver are all robust for fielddays or portable use. But all transceivers have knobs, jackets and displays, which shold be sheltered during transportation. 73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED - Don't forget: the fun is the power! www.qrp4fun.de - dk3...@qrp4fun.de __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Toughness
Field Users, Which Elecraft products stand up best to knocks, bumps, etc. seen while fielding a station? Thanks. John, kx4o __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
