Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
I completely agree. I was excited when I saw a recent release note that said that TX audio would be available on the LINE OUT connector, but then was disappointed to read further when it said it was controlled with the front panel volume control and not at a fixed level. Can we PLEASE get this to a fixed level so that we can record both sides of the QSO without worrying about the FP volume control, and so that it also works with digital modes (RTTY, JT6M, etc) correctly? Chad WE9V On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Stewart Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be nice to have a LINE OUT setting something like =TX/RX > where both the received audio and the transmitted audio were > available at a preset (independent of volume control) level. > It would be very useful in contests to record both sides of a > contact CW or SSB. > > 73 > Stewart G3RXQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
Yes it would! - Original Message - From: "Stewart Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It would be nice to have a LINE OUT setting something like =TX/RX where both the received audio and the transmitted audio were available at a preset (independent of volume control) level. It would be very useful in contests to record both sides of a contact CW or SSB. 73 Stewart G3RXQ Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
It would be nice to have a LINE OUT setting something like =TX/RX where both the received audio and the transmitted audio were available at a preset (independent of volume control) level. It would be very useful in contests to record both sides of a contact CW or SSB. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:07:35 -0400, hank k8dd wrote: > Ed . > > If you look at http://www.writelog.com/support/wlso2r.pdf it shows how to > set up the mike for SSB contesting. If you ignore the Left Rig and the > W5XD Multi+ keyer and just look at the Right Rig and microphone setup you > will see how to keep the audio from the other ops out of your mike. > > In N1MM configurer you can select the line to mute when playing wav files. > This is also mostly the Mic input. Check > http://pages.cthome.net/n1mm/html/English/BasicFunctions.htm#Rec ording_Wav_files > for recording info. > > I have found that if the MON level is turned up so you can hear yourself, > with MIC + Line in you will get feedback when you activate PTT. I'm > assuming this will not happen if the mike is plugged into the sound card. > > Also, if you want to record both TX and RX audio in the contest you have to > select =PHONES. This will send TX & RX audio to the sound card at a level > controlled by the AF Gain control (NOT Line Out level) and possibly > overdrive your sound card. > > 73HankK8DD > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Steeble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> I tried to use a K3 in the IOTA contest on SSB but ran into a problem. >> I couldn't figure out how to satisfactory key the K3 with wave >> files from N1MM Logger and also use a Heil Headset. Reading the manual it >> appears that you can have audio input from ONLY the front panel, rear >> panel, OR line in. The wave files were coming via the line in and the >> mike via the Front panel. Did I over look something? >> >> A fellow team member and I considered paralleling the mike and sound >> card input but we didn't want a live mike while wave files were playing. >> The Elecraft web site says that their digital voice recorder (KDVR3) is >> not yet shipping. For now, does this mean that that I have to use my >> MFJ voice keyer (configured for a Kenwood radio) if I want audio files AND >> mike capabilities? >> >> When using a K3, how are others handling SSB contests? >> >> 73, Ed >> K3IXD >> > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
Ed . If you look at http://www.writelog.com/support/wlso2r.pdf it shows how to set up the mike for SSB contesting. If you ignore the Left Rig and the W5XD Multi+ keyer and just look at the Right Rig and microphone setup you will see how to keep the audio from the other ops out of your mike. In N1MM configurer you can select the line to mute when playing wav files. This is also mostly the Mic input. Check http://pages.cthome.net/n1mm/html/English/BasicFunctions.htm#Recording_Wav_files for recording info. I have found that if the MON level is turned up so you can hear yourself, with MIC + Line in you will get feedback when you activate PTT. I'm assuming this will not happen if the mike is plugged into the sound card. Also, if you want to record both TX and RX audio in the contest you have to select =PHONES. This will send TX & RX audio to the sound card at a level controlled by the AF Gain control (NOT Line Out level) and possibly overdrive your sound card. 73HankK8DD - Original Message - From: "Ed Steeble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I tried to use a K3 in the IOTA contest on SSB but ran into a problem. I couldn't figure out how to satisfactory key the K3 with wave files from N1MM Logger and also use a Heil Headset. Reading the manual it appears that you can have audio input from ONLY the front panel, rear panel, OR line in. The wave files were coming via the line in and the mike via the Front panel. Did I over look something? A fellow team member and I considered paralleling the mike and sound card input but we didn't want a live mike while wave files were playing. The Elecraft web site says that their digital voice recorder (KDVR3) is not yet shipping. For now, does this mean that that I have to use my MFJ voice keyer (configured for a Kenwood radio) if I want audio files AND mike capabilities? When using a K3, how are others handling SSB contests? 73, Ed K3IXD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
Brett, Thanks for reply. I have to disagree; it is a big deal. A year ago, using another rig we didn't realize that we had an open mike when wave files were being transmitted and got reports about the voices in the background. The team members were not talking loudly. We solved the problem with that rig, which we hope to replace with a second K3 for CQ WW SSB. We figured that Elecraft had to have solved this problem and the replies indicate that they have. To others, Thanks all for the replies and now to make some tests. BTW we got great audio reports when using the K3. 73, Ed K3IXD/C6AXD C6APR team member Brett Howard wrote: You're probably still going to have a live mic during the transmitting of a wave file but I don't see that as that big of a deal... On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:49 -0400, Ed Steeble wrote: Lyle, Thanks I will check and see what version is loaded. 73, Ed K3IXD Lyle Johnson wrote: ...Reading the manual it appears that you can have audio input from ONLY the front panel, rear panel, OR line in. The wave files were coming via the line in and the mike via the Front panel. Did I over look something? You can have either mic plus LINE input active at the same time. See recent firmware release notes. 73, Lyle KK7P No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
I ran into this as well. It was a bit tricky but here is what worked: Writelog as DVK Cable from headphone out of soundboard to the line in jack on back of K3 Now the tricky part: Select LINE IN as input first! Then set the gain as you would a mike gain, otherwise the K3 sees zero input from the line in! Select mike Front panel, go to next menu option and select Mike + line It worked great! There was other issues with the K3 but probably because it is an infant.. a new PA is on the way (bummer) 73, Dave NT6AA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
You're probably still going to have a live mic during the transmitting of a wave file but I don't see that as that big of a deal... On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:49 -0400, Ed Steeble wrote: > Lyle, > Thanks I will check and see what version is loaded. > 73, Ed > K3IXD > > Lyle Johnson wrote: > >> ...Reading the manual it appears that you can have audio input from > >> ONLY the front panel, rear > >> panel, OR line in. The wave files were coming via the line in and the > >> mike via the Front panel. Did I over look something? > > > > You can have either mic plus LINE input active at the same time. See > > recent firmware release notes. > > > > 73, > > > > Lyle KK7P > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > > 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM > > > > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
Lyle, Thanks I will check and see what version is loaded. 73, Ed K3IXD Lyle Johnson wrote: ...Reading the manual it appears that you can have audio input from ONLY the front panel, rear panel, OR line in. The wave files were coming via the line in and the mike via the Front panel. Did I over look something? You can have either mic plus LINE input active at the same time. See recent firmware release notes. 73, Lyle KK7P No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
...Reading the manual it appears that you can have audio input from ONLY the front panel, rear panel, OR line in. The wave files were coming via the line in and the mike via the Front panel. Did I over look something? You can have either mic plus LINE input active at the same time. See recent firmware release notes. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Using Voice Files along with Mike Input on a K3
I tried to use a K3 in the IOTA contest on SSB but ran into a problem. I couldn't figure out how to satisfactory key the K3 with wave files from N1MM Logger and also use a Heil Headset. Reading the manual it appears that you can have audio input from ONLY the front panel, rear panel, OR line in. The wave files were coming via the line in and the mike via the Front panel. Did I over look something? A fellow team member and I considered paralleling the mike and sound card input but we didn't want a live mike while wave files were playing. The Elecraft web site says that their digital voice recorder (KDVR3) is not yet shipping. For now, does this mean that that I have to use my MFJ voice keyer (configured for a Kenwood radio) if I want audio files AND mike capabilities? When using a K3, how are others handling SSB contests? 73, Ed K3IXD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com