Re: [Elecraft] XVTR Out level

2019-07-10 Thread Conrad PA5Y
Hi Gary could you perhaps chose 2 transverters 144MHz and 145MHz and set the 
levels accordingly? Fortunately all my transverters have a 28MHz IF. Another 
Elecraft 'surprise'. The worst one for me is the K3S TX IMD on 6m, its really 
quite awful and not good enough for me to use. So I suppose that I will end up 
using the transverter port for 6m as well. Its a shame because the RX is 
outstanding.


You will love the performance of the Kuhne transverter with the K3, its the 
best combination that I have found for the band.


73


Conrad PA5Y



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Sure enough, the BPFs are in the low-level RF path on TX and RX. Moral of the 
story is to choose a transverter with a 28 MHz IF when maximum usable frequency 
range is desired.

Gary NA6O
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Re: [Elecraft] XVTR Out level

2019-07-08 Thread Gary Johnson
Sure enough, the BPFs are in the low-level RF path on TX and RX. Moral of the 
story is to choose a transverter with a 28 MHz IF when maximum usable frequency 
range is desired.

Gary NA6O
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Re: [Elecraft] XVTR Out level

2019-07-08 Thread Gary Johnson
Guess I’ll have to study the K3 block diagrams. For some reason I thought Xvrt 
Out didn’t go thru the BPFs. 

-Gary NA6O

On Jul 8, 2019, at 5:14 PM, w4sc  wrote:
> 
> At 15MHz you are starting to be out of the 20M passband filter, at 16MHz you 
> are well out of the 20M pass band,,, the passband on 10M is around 2 or 3MHz 
> wide and thus would provide the proper drive level for  144 (28MHz), 145 
> (29MHz), and 146 (30MHz) MHz operation.
>  

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[Elecraft] XVTR Out level

2019-07-08 Thread w4sc
At 15MHz you are starting to be out of the 20M passband filter, at 16MHz you 
are well out of the 20M pass band,,, the passband on 10M is around 2 or 3MHz 
wide and thus would provide the proper drive level for  144 (28MHz), 145 
(29MHz), and 146 (30MHz) MHz operation.

 From the K3 users manual, pp71:

Band-Pass Filters (BPFs)
At back-left is the bank of ham-band BPFs. These filters are just wide enough 
to cover each ham band, so they provide good rejection of IMD products during 
both transmit and receive. Hi-Q components, including large toroids, ensure low 
loss and high signal-handling capability.

Regards de Ben W4SC

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[Elecraft] XVTR Out level

2019-07-08 Thread Gary Johnson
I'm testing the K3 XVTR output level for use with a Kuhne 144 
transverter (opt. 05) which uses a 14 MHz IF.


XV1 PWR is set to 1.5 mW as required. Checking with my spectrum 
analyzer, key-down CW output power at the XVTR Out jack varies as follows:


VFO=144 MHz (14.0 MHz out)  +1.3 dBm
145 (15.0)  -4.8
146 (16.0)  -17.5

Needless to say, the Kuhne output power varies proportionally. I also 
tested with XV1 IF set to 28 MHz and power output is flat. This 14 MHz 
level variation is unexpected; anyone seen this before?


Gary NA6O

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