Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
If you can find one, the Clifton Laboratories Z90 or Z91 is a pretty nice standalone unit as well. John, N6AX ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
For me, I liked my old Heathkit (I admit I cannot recall the number, SB-620 or something like that, but in recent memory (good enough to be reliable) I liked the one in the IC-781, even better than the one in the IC-7800, and would like that sort of display for the spectrum scope, but on a nice flat panel, and I agree, it would be nice to not require a computer (I don;t care if it has it built in, just not another overhead for the shack computer... 73 de Dave, W5SV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
Well, I have my LP-PAN on order and can't wait to receive it. I ordered mine assembled so I may have to wait a couple of weeks more for it. I don't mind being tethered to a computer while operating. Truth is I have become so dependent on my logging program (HRD), QRZ.com, DX cluster, etc. that I can't imagine operating without one. I even bring a wireless laptop when operating outside on nice days in the summer. And if band activity is low, I can spend the lulls browsing my forums and mailing lists. >From what I hear, the LP-PAN should be second to no other pan adapter and the ability to use it as a 2nd receiver is very attractive, too. I am quite excited at the prospect of adding a DRM decoder behind it (BC DRM - not the narrow band ham version), although there are ruminations that DRM is a dud in the marketplace and may disappear. Knut - AB2TC Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: > > On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:37:38 -0500, you wrote: > > [snip] > >>Count me in on a stand alone spectrum display, a small black box with >>a VGA connector. I don't want to be tethered to a computer though. I >>agree on the SM230/220, had them both and neither on holds a candle to >>the Icom bandscope, for receiving >> >>Dale, K9VUJ > > Yes, I'd rather have a stand alone also, but not at the price of over 1k > buck! > > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Interesting-Stuff-At-Dayton-tp17308788p17322273.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
On Mon, 19 May 2008 10:37:38 -0500, you wrote: [snip] >Count me in on a stand alone spectrum display, a small black box with >a VGA connector. I don't want to be tethered to a computer though. I >agree on the SM230/220, had them both and neither on holds a candle to >the Icom bandscope, for receiving > >Dale, K9VUJ Yes, I'd rather have a stand alone also, but not at the price of over 1k buck! The KWD SM-230 was a good scope in it's day but it is 30 year old technology. I have one and still use it for the other things it does. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
On 19, May 2008, at 10:10, Vic K2VCO wrote: Charles Harpole wrote: If u would like a real bandscope with a completely real time oscilloscope-like trace (as well as a xmas tree), get the SM-220 or SM-230 from Kenwood. Probably no longer made, they mate with the TS-950 and its juniors and really work even when u are turning the tuning knob. Likely Kenwood lovers will not part with theirs, so gud luck on finding one. No computer needed at all. This OLD TECHNOLOGY remains superior to anything I've seen in the new market today. Too bad it must mate with such a medium-performing rcvr. I have to disagree. I had one, and the bandwidth of the filter used is so wide that it's impossible to distinguish cw signals a few kHz apart. It definitely does not provide the kind of display found, for example, on newer ICOM rigs. I too would like a standalone panadapter (bandscope, whatever) that does not require a computer, but I don't miss the Kenwood unit. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco Count me in on a stand alone spectrum display, a small black box with a VGA connector. I don't want to be tethered to a computer though. I agree on the SM230/220, had them both and neither on holds a candle to the Icom bandscope, for receiving Dale, K9VUJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
I must agree Vic. That Kenwood SM-2xx is a total joke. There is no way to use it for finding signals. How one could consider it superior is beyond me. And yes...I had one...worthless. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Vic K2VCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope Charles Harpole wrote: If u would like a real bandscope with a completely real time oscilloscope-like trace (as well as a xmas tree), get the SM-220 or SM-230 from Kenwood. Probably no longer made, they mate with the TS-950 and its juniors and really work even when u are turning the tuning knob. Likely Kenwood lovers will not part with theirs, so gud luck on finding one. No computer needed at all. This OLD TECHNOLOGY remains superior to anything I've seen in the new market today. Too bad it must mate with such a medium-performing rcvr. I have to disagree. I had one, and the bandwidth of the filter used is so wide that it's impossible to distinguish cw signals a few kHz apart. It definitely does not provide the kind of display found, for example, on newer ICOM rigs. I too would like a standalone panadapter (bandscope, whatever) that does not require a computer, but I don't miss the Kenwood unit. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1454 - Release Date: 5/19/2008 7:44 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
Charles Harpole wrote: If u would like a real bandscope with a completely real time oscilloscope-like trace (as well as a xmas tree), get the SM-220 or SM-230 from Kenwood. Probably no longer made, they mate with the TS-950 and its juniors and really work even when u are turning the tuning knob. Likely Kenwood lovers will not part with theirs, so gud luck on finding one. No computer needed at all. This OLD TECHNOLOGY remains superior to anything I've seen in the new market today. Too bad it must mate with such a medium-performing rcvr. I have to disagree. I had one, and the bandwidth of the filter used is so wide that it's impossible to distinguish cw signals a few kHz apart. It definitely does not provide the kind of display found, for example, on newer ICOM rigs. I too would like a standalone panadapter (bandscope, whatever) that does not require a computer, but I don't miss the Kenwood unit. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
After experiencing a few RTTY QSO's over the weekend (yes - I was on RTTY) I think I'm in need of the 1500 watt beauty as a matter of extreme urgency! I saw it in the flesh in 2005 and have been drooling over the keyboards ever since. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -- From: "AD6XY - Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unfortunately I forgot to ask about the prospects for a linear amplifier once the K3 project settles down. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] a real bandscope
A really really good bandscope can be had through using the SDR-IQ from RFSpace connected to the IF output of the K3. It can also record 180kHz worth of the band. Non-computer based methods are also possible, but the computer realisation is so much more versatile. The SDR-IQ software can interface directly to the K3 RS232, so you can point and click when something interesting appears on the bandscope and centre it in the K3 IF. Ah yes, and this is a bandscope that can demodulate too, all modes. Regarding Dayton and the Elecraft stand It was nice to see everyone there. There was quite a crush around Wayne and Eric whenever I passed by. They looked like they were enjoying themselves too. It was good to see the second rx working and the nice features of the firmware associated with it. I found out several interesting things about their future plans too, including the plans for a keyboard and variable bandwidth filters. Unfortunately I forgot to ask about the prospects for a linear amplifier once the K3 project settles down. Mike -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Interesting-Stuff-At-Dayton-tp17308788p17316665.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] a real bandscope
If u would like a real bandscope with a completely real time oscilloscope-like trace (as well as a xmas tree), get the SM-220 or SM-230 from Kenwood. Probably no longer made, they mate with the TS-950 and its juniors and really work even when u are turning the tuning knob. Likely Kenwood lovers will not part with theirs, so gud luck on finding one. No computer needed at all. This OLD TECHNOLOGY remains superior to anything I've seen in the new market today. Too bad it must mate with such a medium-performing rcvr. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 01:39:57 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Interesting Stuff At Dayton > > > > David Yarnes wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Something that I saw at Dayton may be of interest to Elecraft >> owners--particularly K3, and possibly K2 folks. Jay Bromley and I visited >> with Larry Phipps at his booth for a while. Larry has several very >> innovative items that he sells, including probably the most unique >> wattmeter/SWR meter you can find anywhere (the LP-100A). What caught our >> attention was Larry's new panadapter for the K3. He's contemplating doing >> one for the K2 as well. Anyway, this new gadget (I hope I don't offend >> Larry by calling it a gadget) is very impressive. You should really go to >> his website to get the full details, but believe me, it is really a slick >> piece of engineering. I'm not fully familiar with the Icom bandscope on >> it's higher end rigs, but I think this product from Larry will rival or >> exceed what you find there. Additionally, it really constitutes a 2nd >> receiver, which opens up all sorts of possibilities. For example, maybe >> if you get this accessory you really don't get enough more with the >> Elecraft 2nd RX Can't really say that for sure, but it's pretty clear >> that Larry has something that might give one pause as to whether or not >> they need something over and above that. Anyway, the demo Larry gave us >> was most impressive. I suggest you keep one eye on his website for more >> details. In any event, the panadapter is fairly reasonable, and is >> available in either kit form or fully assembled. Larry says building it >> is not very difficult or time consuming. By all means, check all of this >> out. >> >> > It appears to me that it would be a second receiver only with the aid of a > PC, sound card and SDR software. > > What I would like to see is an external bandscope that does not require a > computer. Either it would be completely self contained, or it would use an > inexpensive portable LCD TV for its display. Perhaps Elecraft will come up > with something like this in the future? > > - > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Interesting-Stuff-At-Dayton-tp17308788p17313629.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
