Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator
Exactly, the ergonomics of the K3 have been well thought out. Just RTFM! G4ILO wrote: After the first couple of times, you learn to check for things like that. Nobody should expect to be able to operate anything as complex as a K3 flawlessly without first spending some time learning how to drive it. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator
GM3SEK wrote: One possibility would be to flash the delta-F LED continuously, in sync with the annunciator (as that LED's normal warning function is not needed while in test mode). That's not such a bad idea. Trouble is, there are quite a few other gotchas that you don't get any obvious warning about, like not having VOX enabled when trying to send CW, or having SPLIT or RIT enabled when you have forgotten about it. Why single out just one gotcha for special treatment? After the first couple of times, you learn to check for things like that. Nobody should expect to be able to operate anything as complex as a K3 flawlessly without first spending some time learning how to drive it. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Software-suggestion%3A-a-more-prominent-TEST-indicator-tp18209658p18211390.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator
By coincidence I'd posted about this last week ( http://www.nabble.com/forum/ViewPost.jtp?post=18168912framed=y ) but thought no-one was interested. Perhaps my signal was hidden by 'Key-down on power up' QRM. Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (K3 s/n 145) G4ILO wrote: GM3SEK wrote: One possibility would be to flash the delta-F LED continuously, in sync with the annunciator (as that LED's normal warning function is not needed while in test mode). That's not such a bad idea. Trouble is, there are quite a few other gotchas that you don't get any obvious warning about, like not having VOX enabled when trying to send CW, or having SPLIT or RIT enabled when you have forgotten about it. Why single out just one gotcha for special treatment? After the first couple of times, you learn to check for things like that. Nobody should expect to be able to operate anything as complex as a K3 flawlessly without first spending some time learning how to drive it. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Software-suggestion%3A-a-more-prominent-TEST-indicator-tp18209658p18213854.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator
drewko1 wrote: An inocuous chirp from the K3 every five seconds would be simpler than a big CH-801 HP SWR meter, I think. (A chirp would take up far less desk space as well.) Why stop at a chirp? Elecraft could make a voice synthesis module, like the ones in car sat-nav equipment. Whenever you key down, a user-selectable voice (Arnie Schwarzenegger? Margaret Thatcher?) could say Warning. Test mode selected. Other warnings could save the user from making potentially expensive or simply embarrasing mistakes, like: Warning: High SWR detected. or Voice modes not permitted in the CW sub-band. It could even offer helpful pile-up breaking tips if it detects that you have been calling for several minutes on the same frequency. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Software-suggestion%3A-a-more-prominent-TEST-indicator-tp18209658p18217985.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator
Nah, voice warnings are not effective. Most of us spend our days ignoring the vocal clatter pouring from cellphones, tv's , radios, etc. (CW ops, anyway...) What is needed is a switched relay on the K3 that would set off a large fire alarm type bell. And maybe an electric jolt to the chair seat for out-of-band operation... Seriously, for people who don't see too well a couple of optional audible annunciators might be useful. So tell me, why would a periodic warning chirp be any more silly than a little TX icon flashing at 1/2-second intervals? 73, Drew AF2Z On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote: drewko1 wrote: An inocuous chirp from the K3 every five seconds would be simpler than a big CH-801 HP SWR meter, I think. (A chirp would take up far less desk space as well.) Why stop at a chirp? Elecraft could make a voice synthesis module, like the ones in car sat-nav equipment. Whenever you key down, a user-selectable voice (Arnie Schwarzenegger? Margaret Thatcher?) could say Warning. Test mode selected. Other warnings could save the user from making potentially expensive or simply embarrasing mistakes, like: Warning: High SWR detected. or Voice modes not permitted in the CW sub-band. It could even offer helpful pile-up breaking tips if it detects that you have been calling for several minutes on the same frequency. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator
The existing flashing TX indicator is just fine, leave it alone. Some of us leave their K3 in a receive only state to avoid upsetting other gear, in my case a broadband modem that fouls up at the smallest amount of RF. It also avoids catching the paddles and accidentally sending RF when you didn't plan to. If the TEST mode is used regularly you remember it... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 - So tell me, why would a periodic warning chirp be any more silly than a little TX icon flashing at 1/2-second intervals? 73, Drew AF2Z ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Software suggestion: a more prominent TEST indicator
On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:56:53 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote: Why stop at a chirp? Elecraft could make a voice synthesis module, like the ones in car sat-nav equipment. Whenever you key down, a user-selectable voice (Arnie Schwarzenegger? Margaret Thatcher?) could say Warning. Test mode selected. BTW, to answer my own question a couple of posts back... It is the SWTONE entry in the config menu (not yet implemented) which will allow Morse Code feedback or audio tone on any control activation... Looking forward to that. I assume it is imminent if it is listed on the config menu (or at least definite). 73, Drew AF2Z ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
