Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
Paul ZL3IN wrote: For those who may be interested, the Canterbury Mountain Radio Service www.mountainradio.co.nz hires out HF QRP radios to the general public for hiking, mountaineering, and other back-country travel here in ZL. Main operating frequency is 3261 kHz USB. There are typically about 12 emergency calls handled per year. The service works well, providing fairly reliable coverage of the South Island of New Zealand. Schedules occur daily at 0630 or 0730 UTC with weather reports and message passing. There is also a phone patch system available. The antennae are of NVIS design, so DX signals will likely be poor, but any signal reports would be gratefully received. Will the users typically depend on trees for antennas, or are they carrying some sort of telescopic pole? Jon LA4RT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
Sri OT at the beginning, but I get back to radio topics at the end. Mike wrote: > It seems to me that shock is often psychologically induced. In emergency medicine the term "shock" usually refers to hypovolaemic shock which is caused by large volume bleeding. Excessive blood loss reduces the ability to get oxygen to the cells. The body can compensate for some blood loss, but past a certain point death will occur within minutes. Typical situations where hypovolaemic shock may occur include external bleeding, or internal bleeding secondary to femur or pelvic fractures, or internal abdominal injury. Psychological "shock" doesn't refer to a particular medical problem, but is a combination of imaginary or real symptoms including anxiety, panic, reaction to pain, natural adrenaline reaction etc, etc. Psychological "shock" is not particularly relevant in an emergency situation, except when it causes inappropriate reactions to the emergency. In my limited experience, most people with serious injuries react in a measured and sensible way, as did Mike with his leg fracture. As a rule-of-thumb, those who scream and yell and make a big fuss usually have only minor injuries. > It certainly emphasizes many of the reasons why I consider HF QRP gear > to be a priority inclusion for backwoods outings like this. For those who may be interested, the Canterbury Mountain Radio Service www.mountainradio.co.nz hires out HF QRP radios to the general public for hiking, mountaineering, and other back-country travel here in ZL. Main operating frequency is 3261 kHz USB. There are typically about 12 emergency calls handled per year. The service works well, providing fairly reliable coverage of the South Island of New Zealand. Schedules occur daily at 0630 or 0730 UTC with weather reports and message passing. There is also a phone patch system available. The antennae are of NVIS design, so DX signals will likely be poor, but any signal reports would be gratefully received. The main disadvantage of HF radio in an emergency is that you have to put the antenna up! This can be difficult to do if you have serious injuries. For this reason HF radio is best suited to those travelling in a group. For lone hikers a better solution is to carry a 407 MHz personal locator beacon www.beacons.org.nz. In ZL there will always be a search and rescue response to a PLB activation. I don't know how well they are supported in other countries, but it is a global system. 73 Paul ZL3IN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
Dave wrote: >Fascinating story I thought so too. I've been in a similar situation, but fortunately not so remote from help. >I'd be worried about someone with that kind of injury going into shock. It seems to me that shock is often psychologically induced. Taking actions to deal with the situation can prevent being preoccupied with the injury. I believe that can greatly reduce shock onset. In 1998, I was hiking alone in north Alabama's Sipsey Wilderness when I took a mis-step that resulted in a twist break of both bones in the lower left leg. It would have driven me crazy to just wait until someone showed up, so I began a crawl to the nearest trailhead, which was only a half-mile away. When I got there more than an hour later, some folks had just driven up that were able to deliver me to the nearest hospital. The only radio I had was an FT-50R HT, but no ham repeater or cell phone coverage existed in the low valley elevation where I was. My HT had the MARS/CAP mod, I knew the frequencies and PL tones of local law enforcement and Forest Service repeaters. I'm sure I could have accessed them. But I didn't consider the emergency to be severe enough to unlawfully communicate through those channels and deal with the resulting flap. Had the fracture been compound, maybe I'd have taken that drastic step. I was happy to have been able to deal with the situation without getting any governmental agency or rescue squad involved, or getting publicity. All I got was $30,000 in medical costs. A year later, while camping again in the Sipsey Wilderness, I overheard on local law and forest service frequencies the rescue efforts of a woman who broke her leg on a trail about ten miles away. I was sympathetic to her situation. The main thing I learned was that the possibility of unexpected injury exists everywhere, even when one is doing nothing risky or stupid. >Anyway, this seems like good fodder for a K1 advertisement. IMHO, it's likely the best K1 story ever! I think the fellow did a great job. >It certainly emphasizes many of the reasons why I consider HF QRP gear >to be a priority inclusion for backwoods outings like this. With great light-weight, high-capability sets like the K1 and KX1 now available, it would be inconceivable to me now to go on a backpack trip without HF QRP gear. In fact, that's *THE* reason I bought a K1 eight years ago. If I were going to buy a QRP rig today for backpacking, it would be yet another K1. I was amused by the youtube "goathiker" videos that have recently been cited here. His FT-817 is pretty heavy, and is extremely power hungry for a backpack rig, but that ham had those goats to haul the weight. >Cell phones and VHF/UHF gear would very likely be useless in such >locations. Very true. One of my favorite trail systems is along the Buffalo National River in the Arkansas Ozarks. Forget getting a signal out by anything other than shortwave along most of its 150 mile length. Mike / KK5F K1 S/N 175 (November 2000) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
It could have been a PM-1 also, which similarly covered 40 and 20. I have a PM-3A (original owner), which was the first of a very long series of Ten-Tec radios I have or still own. All these PM series rigs looked very much alike. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "Ken Kopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue... It was indeed a PM-2 ... owned one myself many years ago. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
It was indeed a PM-2 ... owned one myself many years ago. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
The use of battery power HF rigs for wilderness travel is a good idea. I had a TenTec PM2 ?? it was a 40 and 20 M rig and had all sides. Maybe some one can identify the real model number. I first used this rig when I was OX5BT. (1970-1972) I was there for 2 1/2 years. Later back in the states I got into wilderness canoe camping in the late 1970's and 80's. I led several two week trips in ME and one in northern Ontario. Having that rig with me gave me and the people with me great comfort. The QSOs that I made on these trips was part of the fun. 73, Ty, W1TF, K1 #1423, K3 #696 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
Fascinating story, and I'm particularly impressed with all that Mr. Ruby was able to do (with a broken leg) before even calling for help. This guy is really cool under fire! He lives only about 60 miles from where we are now finishing up our "summer residency" here on the Oregon coast. It would be neat to meet him personally sometime and hear all the nitty gritty details about his ordeal. I'm a little surprised though at how long it took for help to arrive. I suppose they might have been hard pressed to get to him before dark on the day of the accident, but armed with his GPS coordinates, etc., it seems like they could have gotten there earlier the next morning. Maybe a helicopter rescue was deemed unnecessary? I'd be worried about someone with that kind of injury going into shock. Anyway, this seems like good fodder for a K1 advertisement. It certainly emphasizes many of the reasons why I consider HF QRP gear to be a priority inclusion for backwoods outings like this. Cell phones and VHF/UHF gear would very likely be useless in such locations. This is the kind of thing you fantasize about--being able to put your ham radio skills to work to help someone, or yourself, in distress! Well, I do anyway, and I admit it! Hopefully Ruby will be given the opportunity to more fully detail this experience in one of our ham journals. Since this info appeared on the ARRL website, perhaps QST is already planning this. But if not, maybe our new editor for QRP Quarterly will see fit to take the lead? Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "David King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "elecraft" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue... Check out the story at ARRL of how a K1 helped an amateur call for help when he broke his leg hiking http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2008/09/23/10348/?nc=1 .qth.net/subscribers.htm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
And another good bit of news: http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080923/NEWS01/709239926 On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 16:48 -0600, David King wrote: > Check out the story at ARRL of how a K1 helped an amateur call for help > when he broke his leg hiking > > http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2008/09/23/10348/?nc=1 > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Used in Montana Ham Rescue...
One of these day's I'll finish my K1 :) Good story though. 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:48 PM, David King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Check out the story at ARRL of how a K1 helped an amateur call for help when > he broke his leg hiking > > http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2008/09/23/10348/?nc=1 > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
