Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
Don, For the benefit of Bay Area locals, I also found such a cable at my local Fry's Computer Store. It was necessary, because one of the band output signals is on pin 9, which is normally not present on the VGA cables. I cut the other connector off the cable and wired up a special one to fit my TopTen Yaesu band decoder (which works fine, BTW, with the K3). 73, andy, ae6y - Original Message - From: Don Nesbitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made I've found two (2) ready made cables that may be of interest to K3 owners when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my manual as AUX I/O with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video connector! Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from the K3 - shucks! For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the pin is not connected to anything. Poo! Fully connected commercial cables found! The first is a VGA Splitter Cable (Y cable) with one male and 2 female ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. This Y cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) and is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126submit .x=17submit.y=12 The second cable is a Fully-Wired Straight Thru, HD15MM cable with all 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You can search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most computer stores. Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number 810150. I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150submit .x=15submit.y=9 I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they change their manufacturing process)! I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, YMMV. '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
Don, One caveat to this: VGA cables are normally wired as a series of coaxial cables. So while you may have pin continuity, that continuity may be on a shield of RG-174/U coax buried in the jacket of a larger cable. I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before. It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the device. Tim Raymer 73 de KA0OUV K2 #1383 Don Nesbitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/2008 11:36 I've found two (2) ready made cables that may be of interest to K3 owners when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my manual as AUX I/O with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video connector! Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from the K3 - shucks! For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the pin is not connected to anything. Poo! Fully connected commercial cables found! The first is a VGA Splitter Cable (Y cable) with one male and 2 female ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. This Y cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) and is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126submit .x=17submit.y=12 The second cable is a Fully-Wired Straight Thru, HD15MM cable with all 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You can search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most computer stores. Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number 810150. I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150submit .x=15submit.y=9 I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they change their manufacturing process)! I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, YMMV. '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:43 -0500 From: Timothy Raymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before. It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the device. What? They're dead easy. Try making connections to a 13 pin DIN connector. And if you really are having problems, then there are crimp and poke conectors readily available. Many of these can be soldered and then poked, too. 73, doug ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
Another reason NOT to use the computer-use socket on a ham radio. Tiny wires, tiny pins, weak strain relief do I need say any more. Come on, designers: remember your customers have normal sized hands and weak eyesight!!! 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:43 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made Don, One caveat to this: VGA cables are normally wired as a series of coaxial cables. So while you may have pin continuity, that continuity may be on a shield of RG-174/U coax buried in the jacket of a larger cable. I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before. It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the device. Tim Raymer 73 de KA0OUV K2 #1383 Don Nesbitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/2008 11:36 I've found two (2) ready made cables that may be of interest to K3 owners when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my manual as AUX I/O with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video connector! Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from the K3 - shucks! For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the pin is not connected to anything. Poo! Fully connected commercial cables found! The first is a VGA Splitter Cable (Y cable) with one male and 2 female ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. This Y cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) and is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126submit .x=17submit.y=12 The second cable is a Fully-Wired Straight Thru, HD15MM cable with all 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You can search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most computer stores. Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number 810150. I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150submit .x=15submit.y=9 I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they change their manufacturing process)! I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, YMMV. '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
Guess I got lucky. Had an old VGA cable. Cut off the one end. Terminated it in a female DB9 RS solder plug with a plastic hood and added a transistor switch for FSK. There were no coax cables imbedded in the VGA cable. Several single wires and a few twisted pair. What I would like to do when I get time is terminate the VGA cable in a box with terminal strips. Add jacks to the box to break out the signals on the ACC jack. This way it would be easy to add cables to other external devices. Maybe Elecraft or someone will come up with a plug in box to do this? 73, N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:37 PM To: Timothy Raymer; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made Another reason NOT to use the computer-use socket on a ham radio. Tiny wires, tiny pins, weak strain relief do I need say any more. Come on, designers: remember your customers have normal sized hands and weak eyesight!!! 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:43 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made Don, One caveat to this: VGA cables are normally wired as a series of coaxial cables. So while you may have pin continuity, that continuity may be on a shield of RG-174/U coax buried in the jacket of a larger cable. I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before. It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the device. Tim Raymer 73 de KA0OUV K2 #1383 Don Nesbitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/2008 11:36 I've found two (2) ready made cables that may be of interest to K3 owners when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my manual as AUX I/O with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video connector! Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from the K3 - shucks! For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the pin is not connected to anything. Poo! Fully connected commercial cables found! The first is a VGA Splitter Cable (Y cable) with one male and 2 female ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. This Y cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) and is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126submit .x=17submit.y=12 The second cable is a Fully-Wired Straight Thru, HD15MM cable with all 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You can search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most computer stores. Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number 810150. I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150submit .x=15submit.y=9 I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they change their manufacturing process)! I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, YMMV. '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made
I'm quite pleased with the use of the connector. It's a standard relatively easy to find thing and gets the job done. There are some that won't be happy no matter what you do. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:37 AM To: Timothy Raymer; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made Another reason NOT to use the computer-use socket on a ham radio. Tiny wires, tiny pins, weak strain relief do I need say any more. Come on, designers: remember your customers have normal sized hands and weak eyesight!!! 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:23:43 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, 15 Pin Acc Cables - Commercially Made Don, One caveat to this: VGA cables are normally wired as a series of coaxial cables. So while you may have pin continuity, that continuity may be on a shield of RG-174/U coax buried in the jacket of a larger cable. I have found high density 15 pin connectors and soldered to them before. It is not fun. But in that application, it was the only way to get the correct connections, the correct wire type, and so on, connected to the device. Tim Raymer 73 de KA0OUV K2 #1383 Don Nesbitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/10/2008 11:36 I've found two (2) ready made cables that may be of interest to K3 owners when using the ACC Socket. The ACC socket is referred to on page 18 of my manual as AUX I/O with the caution that this is NOT a VGA video connector! Well, it sure looks like a VGA connector but alas, no video output from the K3 - shucks! For those who just don't want to fabricate a cable, most commercially available VGA cables do not include the #9 pin and for some that do, the pin is not connected to anything. Poo! Fully connected commercial cables found! The first is a VGA Splitter Cable (Y cable) with one male and 2 female ends. It is offered by Cables Unlimited (www.cablesunlimited.com) and is their part number PCM-2250. Search this part number on their site. It is listed on their site for $14.99. All 15 pins are present and connected. This Y cable is carried by my local Microcenter (www.microcenter.com) and is their part number 028126. I bought it for $9.95. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=028126submit .x=17submit.y=12 The second cable is a Fully-Wired Straight Thru, HD15MM cable with all 15 pins present and connected. The one I bought is a 3 foot Male to Male (although it is also available in other configurations) - no snickering! It is made by QVS (www.qvs.com) and is their part number CC388B-03. You can search this part number on their site. I don't believe that QVS sells directly to consumers but you can probably find their products at most computer stores. Again, I found it at my local Microcenter. It is their part number 810150. I bought it for $14.99. You can see it at: http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?keyword=810150submit .x=15submit.y=9 I've checked each of these cables and they do indeed have all 15 pins connected - at least the one's I bought do (caveat filed just in case they change their manufacturing process)! I don't have any financial interest in any of the above and, as usual, YMMV. '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
