Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft rigs...
Indeed - I have a K3 on order and would pay $1,000 more for a nice 19 big panel. Same as we have now, just bigger. Bigger buttons, bigger labels, nice 4 tuning knob (like the FTDX-9000). The age profile of Hams who can afford new radios must show that we're suffering from the age-related problems such as poor eyesight, less flexible fingers and easy confusion when presented with lots of small buttons (one reason why I like my TS-480SAT). So - for me the K4 would be the K3 in a bigger box with maybe a nice big speaker and 10W audio amp. I don't need a panoramic display there - nice but not essential as I would plug a 19 monitor into the radio / panoramic display unit anyway. An example of a nice clean layout in a big radio is the up-coming ICOM IC-7700, much better than the overloaded IC-7800 front panel as the IC-7700 doesn't have to cope with dual receivers. Bottom line I guess - I don't want to wear my reading glasses to use the K3. Got to find the glasses first which always takes 10 minutes. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Face it, MOST operators like a large front panel. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Elecraft did say the K3 was built to the size it is - and by the number of orders taken they obviously made the correct decision (I managed to hold out for 24 hours). The layout and usage will be great - but something like my old Drake TR-7 was simpler to use (just like the operator). The Who summed it up in 1971: 'Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy', just the way I want my radios :-) Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] My IC-775dsp is a BIG rig and I love operating it, and it has NO menus but a knob for everything ideal for HAM RADIO, not commercial or whatever. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Perhaps the solution is to think outside the box. Literally. I mean, there is no need for a bandscope to be part of the radio main display, just because Icom does it that way. All that is needed is a plug-in module that can be added with a coaxial socket on it, that can be plugged in to an external display. You could even use a portable LCD TV for the display, as some IC-7000 users do because the built in one is too small. For quick access to control functions something like a TV remote control could be used. You would need an infra red module in the K3. Perhaps an actual TV remote could be used to save costs. Some of these are highly programmable with a touch screen. Or you could use dedicated software on a PDA. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 9/7/07, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elecraft did say the K3 was built to the size it is - and by the number of orders taken they obviously made the correct decision (I managed to hold out for 24 hours). The layout and usage will be great - but something like my old Drake TR-7 was simpler to use (just like the operator). The Who summed it up in 1971: 'Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy', just the way I want my radios :-) Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] My IC-775dsp is a BIG rig and I love operating it, and it has NO menus but a knob for everything ideal for HAM RADIO, not commercial or whatever. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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In a message dated 9/6/07 2:30:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: don't know if people want it smaller, or they push smaller stuff to the people, or if it's a young thing, or what. 1) Smaller is usually less expensive to make, to pack, and to ship. (Smaller usually also means lighter, too). 2) A small thing can be used in more places than a large one. Like mobile. 3) As homes tend not to have basements and usable attics, people have less space. Yet they also tend to have/want more stuff. If the stuff is smaller, they can have more of it. 4) The size of old things was often determined by the size of the parts inside, and how much heat they gave off. Look at an ARC-5 receiver or transmitter - it can't get much smaller. As parts have shrunk, so have front panels. 5) If people buy the smaller stuff, the mfrs. make it. This isn't a new thing. Back in the 1960s, W9BRD's How's DX column carried a story about how the author was trying out a new rig loaned by a friend. Nice little modern transceiver (NCX-3?) but the shack Siamese cat, Madame Mu, didn't like it because she could not comfortably rest atop it. 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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If you ever used one of the 756 series rigs, you know just how nice the display is, and its nice having it all in one box and not having to move/carry a screen along if you move things. You can put a lot of information on a screen like that, and icom was smart enough to also use a real mechanical meter along with the very nice display. The band scope is a very nice feature, although you might not think so till you use one, but its only part of the nice display. You can turn it off and copy rtty, access all kinds of options, show loads of very detailed info at the same time, etc. Its not a big box, but it is quite heavy. The 756 pro series is a very nice radio, except for its abysmal performance on receive. At about $1200.00 it's a good buy for a used rig if you don't mind the wide front end... Brett N2DTS Perhaps the solution is to think outside the box. Literally. I mean, there is no need for a bandscope to be part of the radio main display, just because Icom does it that way. All that is needed is a plug-in module that can be added with a coaxial socket on it, that can be plugged in to an external display. You could even use a portable LCD TV for the display, as some IC-7000 users do because the built in one is too small. For quick access to control functions something like a TV remote control could be used. You would need an infra red module in the K3. Perhaps an actual TV remote could be used to save costs. Some of these are highly programmable with a touch screen. Or you could use dedicated software on a PDA. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Yep, I had one. I sold it soon after I got my K2. Never really missed it. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 9/7/07, Brett gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ever used one of the 756 series rigs, you know just how nice the display is, and its nice having it all in one box and not having to move/carry a screen along if you move things. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: Indeed - I have a K3 on order and would pay $1,000 more for a nice 19 big panel. Same as we have now, just bigger. Bigger buttons, bigger labels, nice 4 tuning knob (like the FTDX-9000). The age profile of Hams who can afford new radios must show that we're suffering from the age-related problems such as poor eyesight, less flexible fingers and easy confusion when presented with lots of small buttons (one reason why I like my TS-480SAT). I have a K2, a TS850s and a beta version K3. I more or less got used to the K2, but I complained a lot about it being too small for my age. My experience with the K3 is that it does not feel smaller than the TS850s (a 'normal size' radio), although it is. The number and layout of the controls seems right for the size of the panel. I don't feel cramped using it. I have an HRO-5 which is 19 or so wide. It wouldn't fit on my desk with the other stuff, like the computer and monitor that I didn't have in 1956. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA K3 no. 7 ('James', of course) http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Matt, I would like to see a SM Elecraft kit as well. Some of the devices are pretty easy to work with, although even some of them may be too big these days. The AmQRP micro908 was my first SMD kit. I was worried about being able to work with the small devices. But after the first couple of components, it was actually fun and easy. Maybe not for everyone, but I don't think it is as hard to do as folks fear. Requires some new tools and a bit more patience, and GOOD magnifying visor/loop. Cheers, Julius n2wn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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It seems to me the old guys want things to get bigger, i want them smaller, there is no reason with advances in technology and smaller components that you cant fit a radio with the performance of the k2 (basic anyway) into an altoids tin, look at the AT-Sprint i think its a great example of what can be done. If you want a better example i spent the summer building and prototyping a power supply for military radios, we shoved 350 watts with 9 outputs and red/black isolation into a 3U conduction cooled compact pci card, which with the height restriction that imposes i think was a pretty amazing feat. If i had the free time to actually study the k2 and figure it out on the level that don has it down, i wouldn't mind designing my own, but alas i never have enough time to finish any of my dream projects, only to start them and then to leave a bunch of parts and sketches in a box somewhere. Matt KD8DAO On 9/7/07, J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, I would like to see a SM Elecraft kit as well. Some of the devices are pretty easy to work with, although even some of them may be too big these days. The AmQRP micro908 was my first SMD kit. I was worried about being able to work with the small devices. But after the first couple of components, it was actually fun and easy. Maybe not for everyone, but I don't think it is as hard to do as folks fear. Requires some new tools and a bit more patience, and GOOD magnifying visor/loop. Cheers, Julius n2wn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] New Elecraft rigs...
So you want a revised K1, not a K4. K3 performance in a K1 size box using surface mount. That seems like a nitch radio, not a mainstream radio. You need: Backpack rig and/or handheld, Small portable or field day rig, Mobile rig (portable and field day also) designed with the car in mind.., Base rig, Deluxe base rig, Computer rig, Amplifier, Remote (auto?) antenna tuners/antenna switch, Kits and various power level versions of the above. I don't know about vhf and uhf rigs... The reason I would like a rig twice the size of the K3 is to get a band scope and individual knobs for main features. While Elecraft does wonders with limited controls, there is no need for that on a big radio. I think they would sell many more bigger rigs to the general ham population then they would sell revised K1's. Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Palmer Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:49 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Optimized mic ? I would rather see them expanding into a surface mount miniaturized version of the k2 with improved performance for a k4. Matt KD8DAO On 9/6/07, Brett gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do wonder what Elecraft could come up with if size, weight, and power consumption were not an issue. It would likely be a rig I would really like, as there are plenty of small rigs out there. They don't need to go head to head with the major manufacturers if they don't want to, they can sell what they sell and how they want to sell it, and be as big or as little as they want. My guess is they want to sell zillions of K3's though, with all the jetting around to hamfests. If the K4 was twice the size of the K3, and had four times the knobs and buttons on it, and had the K3 performance, I bet they would sell even more of them then K3's, at a higher price. I don't see why Elecraft could not get very large in short order, as no one has the range and performance they do, kits, small rigs, top end performing rigs, medium size rigs, backpack rigs, antenna tuners, amplifiers, and with the K4, big deluxe rigs. I hope they will expand and bring out more products faster, while reducing the individual workload so they don't burn out. Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Harpole Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:50 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Optimized mic ? Much as I want to like the little company that could, Elecraft folks need to recognize that despite their existing rabidly pro customer base, they are now reaching another type of customer with the advanced K3. This new customer will be much less forgiving than the folks of the QRP and toy rigs niche who are clearly predisposed to love anything Elecraft. Me, I am a new type customer, not interested in QRP (I'm too old), back packing (same), and tiny rigs (same agn). I assemble to save money, not much for the fun. I like operating, not tinkering. I purchase based on outstanding specs, not other marketing ploys. Message then to Elecraft, provided free here altho a marketing consultant would cost plenty, is to wake up to their new added customer base and understand that forgiveness in timely notices of shipment advance manual availability clear specs on rig (that are stated in the same terms as good ole Sherwood and that do not have the or the mark) and clear info on the full range of products, such as the Heil K2 mic/headphones, can be expected to be met with only a polite patience that can be exhausted soon. It is a new and exciting ...and challenging day for Elecraft. They have entered the big leagues and clearly challenge ICOM and Yaesu (and ORION). Marketing info will need to measure up too. PS... keep my order for a K3 active, please. 73 Charles Harpole, HS0ZCW [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hot mailtextlink2 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):
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On 9/6/07, Brett gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they would sell many more bigger rigs to the general ham population then they would sell revised K1's. On what evidence do you base this assertion? I haven't done a survey, but on the basis of the rigs people say they are using when I contact them, I would say the small / medium size radios are in the majority. A lot of people are even using mobile rigs (IC-706, IC-7000, FT-897 etc.) as their main radios. That may be more to do with pricing than size, of course. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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People today seem to want everything to be smaller (except for their big screen TV's). Everything is becoming smaller, not bigger. -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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And harder to use - I bought the K3 because I find accessing all functions via a menu (on my FT-857) to be prohibitive. I was looking at the FT-2000 and almost ready to buy and then there was this announcement . On 6/9/07 17:07, JT Croteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: People today seem to want everything to be smaller (except for their big screen TV's). Everything is becoming smaller, not bigger. -- Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe. -Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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On the assumption that people wanting little radios could get or already have a K1, K2, etc. And from looking at ads in QST and the AES catalog, the big rigs get the attention, along with anything 'new'. Sure, there are loads of people who would like an expensive radio, like me, but I don't have $10,000.00 to plunk down for the really good ones. I got an icom 756 pro cheap used, while a poor performer compared to the Elecraft rigs on RX, it was a slick package with lots of features, knobs, buttons, great displays, real S meter, auto antenna tuner, 6 meters, in a bigger box. It even came with a microphone! It seems to me like there are LOADS of guys that have to have the latest and greatest, as well as plenty of people who will get whatever they can for the lowest cost. I don't think Elecraft could compete with really cheap rigs or used rigs, but they do real well with the great performing rigs. From a business standpoint, you want a bigger box and more features that dazzle, like the multi color band scope, lots of knobs, some gold trim highlights, and some heft to it. That is what the usual suspects have been doing, add the Elecraft high performance and it would sell like hotcakes! Brett N2DTS On 9/6/07, Brett gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they would sell many more bigger rigs to the general ham population then they would sell revised K1's. On what evidence do you base this assertion? I haven't done a survey, but on the basis of the rigs people say they are using when I contact them, I would say the small / medium size radios are in the majority. A lot of people are even using mobile rigs (IC-706, IC-7000, FT-897 etc.) as their main radios. That may be more to do with pricing than size, of course. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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I don't know if people want it smaller, or they push smaller stuff to the people, or if it's a young thing, or what. I do NOT want things smaller, my cell phone/camera is already so small its very hard to use, look at aftermarket car radios, the buttons and displays are so small you have to stop and put your glasses on to read/change anything, handhelds have gotten so small they cant fit enough buttons and have menus and multi function things that make them almost imposable to use or figure out. I got a VX-7r I hate, as you cant use it without the (thick) instruction book, you cant even hold it without things getting in the way, and it gets REAL hot. No thanks, I want things bigger. Now if I was back packing, I would like it to be small and light, for the rest of it, I want it big and easy to use. But maybe I am odd, my transmitters are 6 foot tall Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JT Croteau Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft rigs... People today seem to want everything to be smaller (except for their big screen TV's). Everything is becoming smaller, not bigger. -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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I think we need to get with the times, i'm not saying a smaller box for the k2, but i wouldnt mind seeing a surface mount version, which would mean more space inside the box for user mods and tinkering, i think with all the options installed everyone agrees the k2 is a tight fit. And as much as everyone seems scared of smt, it seems to be the same fear of toroids, there not that bad, theres nothing hard about it, no magic spells to cast, it just takes a little practice, so the sooner we get a kit radio we really really want, that requires us to do a little surface mounting the sooner the ham community will get over itself (this is the 20 year year olds perspective though) Matt KD8DAO On 9/6/07, Brett gazdzinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if people want it smaller, or they push smaller stuff to the people, or if it's a young thing, or what. I do NOT want things smaller, my cell phone/camera is already so small its very hard to use, look at aftermarket car radios, the buttons and displays are so small you have to stop and put your glasses on to read/change anything, handhelds have gotten so small they cant fit enough buttons and have menus and multi function things that make them almost imposable to use or figure out. I got a VX-7r I hate, as you cant use it without the (thick) instruction book, you cant even hold it without things getting in the way, and it gets REAL hot. No thanks, I want things bigger. Now if I was back packing, I would like it to be small and light, for the rest of it, I want it big and easy to use. But maybe I am odd, my transmitters are 6 foot tall Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JT Croteau Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft rigs... People today seem to want everything to be smaller (except for their big screen TV's). Everything is becoming smaller, not bigger. -- JT Croteau, N1ESE - Manchester, NH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Face it, MOST operators like a large front panel. Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_MSNHMTxt_1 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Charles, I cannot support that assumption, but then maybe I am not among the MOST operators. Convenience for the most used functions is in order (and the K2 is sufficient in that regard, the K3 will be better), but having a knob for each and every function available on the radio is just not necessary in most operating environments IMHO. The desires of the contest operator will of course, be different than for a casual operator, but too many buttons and knobs gets in the way of most operating scenarios that I can imagine. If one desires a larger front panel, there is always HRD or N4PY software to 'fix' that problem - if the resulting software panel is not large enough, one can always get a larger monitor. 73, Don W3FPR Charles Harpole wrote: Face it, MOST operators like a large front panel. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com