Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:29:05 -0700 (PDT), Dave Agsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this But I really don't think it's about panel space, it's about how the designers want us to use the K3... Isn't that true with the Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu radios? You have to use it the way it's designed... What a concept. I hope Elecraft has their filter working on this one, drops it, and continues to address refining performance items. 73, Dave N8AG Amen. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe
I don't see how all this band button talk is going to make any difference with the K3. The panel is the way it is and I doubt that they can economically change things. Maybe in the future, when K3 sales drop off, they will come up with a new package for the K3 boards that would incorporate a panadapter and slots for transverters and all the buttons you could want. It would be nice if we could use our existing electronics in a bigger package, for those so inclined to upgrade. I think Elecraft chose a layout very similar to the TS-570 which was very functional. Some people are impressed with the obsessive amount of controls on a FT-2000 or the fewer ones of the IC706. I think Elecraft found a sound medium. I own both of those and find the K3 easiest to use. Some people don't think they are getting their money's worth unless there is a big cabinet. Take a look at all the dead space inside an Orion II cabinet. Now if I could just find something new and useful to do with my unsused K2 sitting on the shelf. Mike WA8EBM - Original Message - From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:29:05 -0700 (PDT), Dave Agsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this But I really don't think it's about panel space, it's about how the designers want us to use the K3... Isn't that true with the Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu radios? You have to use it the way it's designed... What a concept. I hope Elecraft has their filter working on this one, drops it, and continues to address refining performance items. 73, Dave N8AG Amen. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:32:10 -0400, Mike Penkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see how all this band button talk is going to make any difference with the K3. The panel is the way it is and I doubt that they can economically change things. I agree. Maybe in the future, when K3 sales drop off, they will come up with a new package for the K3 boards that would incorporate a panadapter and slots for transverters and all the buttons you could want. It would be nice if we could use our existing electronics in a bigger package, for those so inclined to upgrade. I think Elecraft chose a layout very similar to the TS-570 which was very functional. Some people are impressed with the obsessive amount of controls on a FT-2000 or the fewer ones of the IC706. I think Elecraft found a sound medium. I own both of those and find the K3 easiest to use. Some people don't think they are getting their money's worth unless there is a big cabinet. The Japanese manufacturers sell their radios by their weight, multiplied by the number of front panel controls ;O) Take a look at all the dead space inside an Orion II cabinet. Well, they had to make room for that big control panel with the much less than real-time band scope. [snip] I like the Elecraft way of letting you install options. If you don't want it you don't pay for it. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe
Agreed... I get a bit too wound up about it as it would frustrate me if I was the designer. I've been very happy wtih Wayne's prior priority structure and I'm sure it'll continue that way in the future. The one I'm still interested in playing with is the DVR. It'll probably be mostly a wowgit factor for me as I don't do a lot of SSB but it'll be my favorite thing in the world for FD. On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 07:29 -0700, Dave Agsten wrote: Saw this But I really don't think it's about panel space, it's about how the designers want us to use the K3... Isn't that true with the Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu radios? You have to use it the way it's designed... What a concept. I hope Elecraft has their filter working on this one, drops it, and continues to address refining performance items. 73, Dave N8AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe
Heck I was impressed at how open and clean it was inside the K3. Then I saw the pictures of the sub RX and was impressed at how shoehorned in there it all was... Find it pretty impressive that they even had enough room to add the extra sub RX shielding as an afterthoght too! Maybe they were already planning for it as a possibility but when they were cranking out the SubRX it seemed like it was something they had to add to increase isolation between the two receivers. ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 13:32 -0400, Mike Penkas wrote: I don't see how all this band button talk is going to make any difference with the K3. The panel is the way it is and I doubt that they can economically change things. Maybe in the future, when K3 sales drop off, they will come up with a new package for the K3 boards that would incorporate a panadapter and slots for transverters and all the buttons you could want. It would be nice if we could use our existing electronics in a bigger package, for those so inclined to upgrade. I think Elecraft chose a layout very similar to the TS-570 which was very functional. Some people are impressed with the obsessive amount of controls on a FT-2000 or the fewer ones of the IC706. I think Elecraft found a sound medium. I own both of those and find the K3 easiest to use. Some people don't think they are getting their money's worth unless there is a big cabinet. Take a look at all the dead space inside an Orion II cabinet. Now if I could just find something new and useful to do with my unsused K2 sitting on the shelf. Mike WA8EBM - Original Message - From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:29:05 -0700 (PDT), Dave Agsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this But I really don't think it's about panel space, it's about how the designers want us to use the K3... Isn't that true with the Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu radios? You have to use it the way it's designed... What a concept. I hope Elecraft has their filter working on this one, drops it, and continues to address refining performance items. 73, Dave N8AG Amen. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe
I have two K2's and use the lower power one to irritate the QRO boys on 75. They think I should add more power. I think they should get better receivers! 72, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35, K2 # 5279, KX1 #35, Mini Modules, etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Penkas Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe I don't see how all this band button talk is going to make any difference with the K3. The panel is the way it is and I doubt that they can economically change things. Maybe in the future, when K3 sales drop off, they will come up with a new package for the K3 boards that would incorporate a panadapter and slots for transverters and all the buttons you could want. It would be nice if we could use our existing electronics in a bigger package, for those so inclined to upgrade. I think Elecraft chose a layout very similar to the TS-570 which was very functional. Some people are impressed with the obsessive amount of controls on a FT-2000 or the fewer ones of the IC706. I think Elecraft found a sound medium. I own both of those and find the K3 easiest to use. Some people don't think they are getting their money's worth unless there is a big cabinet. Take a look at all the dead space inside an Orion II cabinet. Now if I could just find something new and useful to do with my unsused K2 sitting on the shelf. Mike WA8EBM - Original Message - From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: Band Button Gripe On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:29:05 -0700 (PDT), Dave Agsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw this But I really don't think it's about panel space, it's about how the designers want us to use the K3... Isn't that true with the Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu radios? You have to use it the way it's designed... What a concept. I hope Elecraft has their filter working on this one, drops it, and continues to address refining performance items. 73, Dave N8AG Amen. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
