RE: [Elecraft] Re: soldering stations

2004-07-14 Thread Thom R. Lacosta

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Julian, G4ILO wrote:


Mind you, you could break and replace several cheap DMMs for the price of a
Fluke...


YeaI have a cheap DMM at:
My tool kit
My computer took kit
My car
My parent's home
My daughter's apartment

The other advantage to cheap DMM's is that if you have enough of them spotted 
around, you don't worry about forgetting to grab your meter(g).


(Yes, I also have mutliple tool kits, too).

73
Thom-k3hrn

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RE: [Elecraft] Re: soldering stations

2004-07-14 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Mind you, you could break and replace several cheap DMMs for the price of a 
Fluke...

73,
--
Julian, G4ILO. (RSGB, ARRL, G-QRP, K2 #392)
G4ILO's Shack: http://www.qsl.net/g4ilo

Ron D'Eau Claire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

3 - Ruggedness. My fluke has bounced off of a steel deck of several ships
from a height of several feet without a scratch, much less a problem. I'd 
be
surprised if some of the cheap ones could withstand such treatment. Still,
what DMM *deserves* to be treated that way? (Careless me...) 
 



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RE: [Elecraft] Re: soldering stations

2004-07-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The biggest differences that I've seen between the expensive and cheap DMM's
are:

1 - Speed. Cheap DMM chips take a second or two to produce a reading.
Expensive ones are almost instantaneous. That's only a small nuisance unless
you are trying to find a 'peak' or 'null' in the reading while making an
adjustment. A cheap DMM requires a lot of patience when doing that and
you're required to wait a couple of seconds for the display to 'update'.
Personally, I prefer my 'scope or an old fashioned "VOM" with a d'Arsonval
meter movement when doing adjustments that require finding a peak or null in
a voltage level. 

2 - Accuracy. The accuracy of cheap DMM's is really quite good, but the
cheaper ones usually display fewer digits. Still, we almost never need to
know that a voltage is say 9.2215 volts - 9.1 or 9.2 is FB 99.9% of the
time.

3 - Ruggedness. My fluke has bounced off of a steel deck of several ships
from a height of several feet without a scratch, much less a problem. I'd be
surprised if some of the cheap ones could withstand such treatment. Still,
what DMM *deserves* to be treated that way? (Careless me...) 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

I got one of these soldering stations from Circuit Specialists when I
started on my K2 and it works great. The DMM is very good  too.  I don't
notice any difference between it and a $200+ Fluke.

73/ Bob - W5BIG



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Re: [Elecraft] Re: soldering stations

2004-07-13 Thread Bob-W5BIG
I got one of these soldering stations from Circuit Specialists when I
started on my K2 and it works great.
The DMM is very good  too.  I don't notice any difference between it and a
$200+ Fluke.

73/ Bob - W5BIG



- Original Message - 
From: "W5RCM - Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: was airports and planes -- soldeting stations


> I have one of these too...works as good as the $$$ Weller I bought with
> my boss's money!  :)  The free DMM is ok too.
> --
> 72, Ron - W5RCM
> w5rcm at volente dot us
> Austin TX
>
>
> Eric Ward wrote:
> > I used the soldering station from Circuit Specialists, recommended in
> > the "Summary of available soldering stations" article by Tom, N0SS.  It
> > appears on the page that you get to by clicking the "How to build and
> > test your kit" link, which is on the "Builder resources" page, a link
> > for which is on the Elecraft website front page--2 levels down makes it
> > a little harder to find ; )  The station was $39.95 as reported--came
> > with a tip about 1.5 mm dia, which worked fine--they also sell a few mm
> > chisel tip, which is good for the antenna jack.  I had previously built
> > a Rock Mite with an unregulated Shack iron.  It worked, but was much
> > more stressful--pretty easy to melt the PC board.  I figured no big deal
> > for a $25 bag of parts.  But a $40 investment to avoid reducing a nice
> > $279 bag of parts to junk seemed like cheap insurance.  They also throw
> > in a free DMM on $50+ orders.  And they have a BNC-to-dual binding post
> > adapter for a few bucks.  No interest in Circuit Specialists, except as
> > a 1 time customer.
> > 73,
> > Eric
> > N0HHS
> > KX1 #760
> >
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