Re: [Elecraft] T1 tuner issue

2005-10-25 Thread Cfzepp
Kurt:
Feed the same antenna with either 300  twin lead or 450 Ohm ladder line.  
Connect a 4 to 1 balun at the shack end  of the feed line, then connect the 
other 
end of the balun to the output terminal  of the tuner.  It will then tune and 
radiate RF quite well! 

73,  Don



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RE: [Elecraft] T1 tuner issue

2005-10-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Kurt,

It all depends on the feedline length (in electrical wavelengths).  If your
feedline is anywhere near a multiple of a half wavelength at 20 meters, that
behavior is not unusual.  The T1 tuner (and most similar tuners) do not work
well if the impedance presented at the shack end of the feedline is quite
high.  If you add or subtract a bit of feedline length (1/8 wavelength at a
time is my suggestion), you will likely see better results.

I will go into all the reasons why should you ask, but try changing the
feedline length and see if it improves things.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 Hello All,

 I just got my SW-20+ working, and I ran into an
 antenna question.  Currently, I don't have a 20 meter
 antenna, so I thought I would try to use my 40 meter
 dipole with it and just use my  Elecraft T1 to tune it
 to 20m.

 It it didn't work too well...I got an SWR around 2.5.
 Is this to be expected, or could there be an issue
 with the T1?  The T1 sure sounds like it is working
 hard to get to the 2.5 (relays are busy).  My antenna
 ignorance is probably showing, but since 20 is a
 direct multiple of 40, I thought the T1 wouldn't have
 a problem matching.

 So I guess my question is:  Is something wrong with my
 T1, or do I just need to put up a 20meter antenna?

 72,

 Kurt - ae6uj



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RE: [Elecraft] T1 tuner issue: try shorting the feedline, working against ground

2005-10-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
A variation on the idea proposed by Wayne is to add an inductor or capacitor
in series with the center wire in the feeder. That will change the impedance
presented to the tuner. You may need to experiment a bit to find a value
that the ATU can match - as indicated by a low SWR - but you won't have to
fiddle with a separate ground system. You whatever you have handy - a 20 to
50 pf cap or a dozen turns of hook-up wire around a 35 mm plastic film
container. You aren't looking for any exact value, just enough reactance to
move the impedance into a range the T1 can match. 

Ron AC7AC  



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Subject: [Elecraft] T1 tuner issue: try shorting the feedline,working
against ground


Kurt,

The impedance of your 40 m dipole on 20 m is probably sky-high; 2.5:1 
may be the best you can hope for. This probably won't hurt the rig, and 
the power loss due to the high SWR is probably less than a dB assuming 
the rig doesn't roll back power (or clip the voltage at the collector 
of its PA).

Another thing you can try is to short the coax center connector to its 
shield. This is an old trick for extending the matching range of an 
antenna. Connect this to the T1's hot lead, then connect the T1's 
ground to a ground counterpoise. The impedance will likely be very 
different, giving the ATU a chance to match it. It will be slightly 
noisier than a dipole, and the directivity will change, but you may not 
mind.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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