RE: FW: [Elecraft] RF build up

2004-12-22 Thread Bill_Harris
As you well know Ron,  that heating method works great on any closed loop 
antenna.  I still have my old 304t_  filament transformer around for such 
occasions.  It's good for 5 vac. @ 100 amps.  Does a good job on conductive 
pipes that may freeze up which is normally not a problem here in Western 
Washington.

Carry-on
K2Bill#973


> Lo' these all-too-many-winters ago there were actual reports of Hams using
> folded dipoles with open wire line in heavy ice/snow regions. As y'all
> probably know, a folded dipole has a direct current continuity across the
> feeders, since it's essentially a dipole with an extra wire running parallel
> to the dipole radiator and connected at each end. 
> 
> If a dangerously heavy ice coating appeared, they'd connect the feeders to a
> variable power source and allow enough current to flow to heat the wires and
> melt the ice. Took a while, but it beat trying to splice and raise the
> antenna again in mid-winter. 
> 
> Being a "California Boy" in those days - Southern California at that - I
> never really had any need to test the idea first-hand. While others were
> snowed and iced-in up to their end-insulators, we were praying for a few
> drops of rain before the dry season resumed in the spring. 
> 
> Ron AC7AC
> 
> 
> ___
> Elecraft mailing list
> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> You must be a subscriber to post to the list.
> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):
>  http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
> 
> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm
> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
___
Elecraft mailing list
Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
You must be a subscriber to post to the list.
Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):
 http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm
Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com


RE: FW: [Elecraft] RF build up

2004-12-22 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Lo' these all-too-many-winters ago there were actual reports of Hams using
folded dipoles with open wire line in heavy ice/snow regions. As y'all
probably know, a folded dipole has a direct current continuity across the
feeders, since it's essentially a dipole with an extra wire running parallel
to the dipole radiator and connected at each end. 

If a dangerously heavy ice coating appeared, they'd connect the feeders to a
variable power source and allow enough current to flow to heat the wires and
melt the ice. Took a while, but it beat trying to splice and raise the
antenna again in mid-winter. 

Being a "California Boy" in those days - Southern California at that - I
never really had any need to test the idea first-hand. While others were
snowed and iced-in up to their end-insulators, we were praying for a few
drops of rain before the dry season resumed in the spring. 

Ron AC7AC


___
Elecraft mailing list
Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
You must be a subscriber to post to the list.
Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):
 http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm
Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com


Re: FW: [Elecraft] RF build up

2004-12-22 Thread John Payne
Alan, I think you may have unwittingly hit on one explanation for Long 
Delayed Echos.  All those CW characters freeze on the antenna and stay 
there untill a thaw, then they melt and radiate(at least some do, many 
may just drip onto the ground).  Then, you hear them and think, "AHA,an 
LDE!!".  Another mystery solved!!


73 and a tounge-in-cheek Merry Christmas to all,

John N4FLJ

Alan Slusher wrote:

 Tony:

I am sure that you can find evidence of the effect of weather on rf (see
below).


___
Elecraft mailing list
Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
You must be a subscriber to post to the list.
Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft


Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm
Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com