Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Lost output power...

2012-06-20 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Further info:

I sat down today and performed another firmware load per Fred's sequence 
with no change. I then tested for any heat generation from the driver 
and finals of the LPA module and could not detect any.

I dug out my old Tek 475A scope and did some signal tracing and verified 
that I have appropriate RF coming into the LPA module (pin 3 on P71A) as 
well as 12v coming in on pins 9  10 of P71B. I also have a logical HI 
on the 7T line (pin 1 of P71A) during XMIT. I do not have RF coming out 
on pin 1 of P71C.

I just emailed support with the same report, but I'm guessing my LPA is 
shot. Anybody have any idea what that will cost?

Thanks again for all the suggestions. I think I have it narrowed down 
pretty well now.

73,
Dave W8FGU


On 6/19/2012 9:13 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:
 Thanks for all the replies. I will try these suggestions tomorrow
 (working today) and post my results to the list for future reference. I
 will try the heat test on the LPA finals and driver first as I have all
 the panels off and it will be a quick way to find out if that is where
 the problem lies (kind of leaning that way).

 Fred, I read some of the same comments with regard to the firmware
 reload. I did in fact reload it a couple of times but not with the same
 power on/off/removal procedure you stated. If the LPA test is ok, I will
 try the reload again using your sequence. I always turn the K3/P3 off
 and then back on again after a load, but I have not tried the power
 removal technique.

 Thanks again guys and I hope to have some results early tomorrow morning.

 73,
 Dave W8FGU


 On 6/18/2012 6:37 PM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:
 Hi all,

 Before I contact service, I thought I might post my problem here in case
 it is something fairly simple.

 I returned from a 2.5 week vacation a couple of weeks ago and sat down
 to do the firmware upgrade to my K3. I had my K3 powered off and
 disconnected the antenna while away but it was still connected to a
 serial hub, paddles, P3 etc. It powered up just fine and I have never
 received any type of error message. After the firmware upgrade, I went
 to perform the TX Gain Calibration and noticed there is no power output.
 No matter what power level I set, I have no output either via the Tune
 function or keying. In fact, hitting the ATU Tune button only displays
 - - on the front panel. I can hear the relays go through their
 routine, but it never displays the SWR.

 I searched the archives and found a few who reported similar problems,
 but only a couple of solutions and a few without any resolution. I've
 ruled out all the settings things I could find i.e Test Mode, Tnx Inh is
 set to off etc. I did remove the KPA3 and I/O board and inserted the
 bypass connector and still the same result. I do have transverter
 output, so it is something past that - I'm presuming in the LPA area.

 I really don't know if I had power output before the firmware upgrade or
 not as I just didn't think to try it especially without receiving any
 kind of error message. And I'm pretty sure everything was working before
 I left for Dayton.

 Anyway, I just thought I'd ask here first before contacting service in
 case it is a known problem I just didn't find on Nabble.

 Thanks in advance   73,
 Dave W8FGU

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Lost output power...

2012-06-19 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Thanks for all the replies. I will try these suggestions tomorrow 
(working today) and post my results to the list for future reference. I 
will try the heat test on the LPA finals and driver first as I have all 
the panels off and it will be a quick way to find out if that is where 
the problem lies (kind of leaning that way).

Fred, I read some of the same comments with regard to the firmware 
reload. I did in fact reload it a couple of times but not with the same 
power on/off/removal procedure you stated. If the LPA test is ok, I will 
try the reload again using your sequence. I always turn the K3/P3 off 
and then back on again after a load, but I have not tried the power 
removal technique.

Thanks again guys and I hope to have some results early tomorrow morning.

73,
Dave W8FGU


On 6/18/2012 6:37 PM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:
 Hi all,

 Before I contact service, I thought I might post my problem here in case
 it is something fairly simple.

 I returned from a 2.5 week vacation a couple of weeks ago and sat down
 to do the firmware upgrade to my K3. I had my K3 powered off and
 disconnected the antenna while away but it was still connected to a
 serial hub, paddles, P3 etc. It powered up just fine and I have never
 received any type of error message. After the firmware upgrade, I went
 to perform the TX Gain Calibration and noticed there is no power output.
 No matter what power level I set, I have no output either via the Tune
 function or keying. In fact, hitting the ATU Tune button only displays
 - - on the front panel. I can hear the relays go through their
 routine, but it never displays the SWR.

 I searched the archives and found a few who reported similar problems,
 but only a couple of solutions and a few without any resolution. I've
 ruled out all the settings things I could find i.e Test Mode, Tnx Inh is
 set to off etc. I did remove the KPA3 and I/O board and inserted the
 bypass connector and still the same result. I do have transverter
 output, so it is something past that - I'm presuming in the LPA area.

 I really don't know if I had power output before the firmware upgrade or
 not as I just didn't think to try it especially without receiving any
 kind of error message. And I'm pretty sure everything was working before
 I left for Dayton.

 Anyway, I just thought I'd ask here first before contacting service in
 case it is a known problem I just didn't find on Nabble.

 Thanks in advance  73,
 Dave W8FGU

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